From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 00:24:58 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:24:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA12099 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA03645 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stanton-1-1.quick.net (newport-1-10.quick.net [206.171.89.210]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA03641 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (soil@localhost) by stanton-1-1.quick.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA16473; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:17 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: stanton-1-1.quick.net: soil owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Gilliam To: AJF cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! How do you send to more than one newsgroup? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-IRC: soil X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.1.6.1-RELEASE i386 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:14:45 -0500, in message , AJF wrote: > I want to send a post to several "comp" newsgroups. How do I do that. > Can I use wildcards? If I wanted to post to all newsgroups that start > with "comp" how would I do it without typing in each one. I tried using > *.comp.* and it didn't work. Any help GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, This is not supported in any news client I've seen, nor should it. The action which you describe is against news netiquette and would no doubtably lead to the removal of your account at your internet provider for spamming. Josh Gilliam -- soil@quick.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 01:49:07 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:49:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13718 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04669 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:45:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04665 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:45:32 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:45:01 +0800 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:45:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Gerald Rosario cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970128120801.006e2664@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Gerald Rosario wrote: > Hello, > > I've setup a large distribution list. When I compose e-mail I put my own > address in the To: field and the distribution list in the BCC: field. > > Now, my question is, when one of the recipients in the distribution list is > prompted to reply to all recipients? Does this mean that his/her reply > goes to everyone in the Distribution list or does it go to everyone in the > To: field. Just to what they see in the To: field. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 06:15:54 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:15:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA16182 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA07614 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:13:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA07610 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:13:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (st7m2@localhost) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA26183 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:13:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:13:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Hey! no more else.." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A question? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who may concern: Now I have a question about how pine works. Is that possbile that I can download something from attachment. But the problem is I dont' know how to do it. I really want someone help. If having any question about what I need. Please ask me..I do appeciated for asking me those because I am confused about how to ask this too.. Take care Johnny From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 07:16:07 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:16:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA16923 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA08281 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA08277 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:13:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqh06-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 07:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: username not right: how do i change my reply-to address? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:54:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Kevin Beason wrote: > I am using (on a different account) a service from www.iname.com that > forwards my mail coming to their address to one I specify. > > How do I change my reply-to address to their address, so that my outgoing > mail has their address for the return address, instead of mine? > > All I can seem to do is change the domain, and not the username. > > Also, I am using UNIX Pine and I have it set to use their SMTP server. > Put simply, > > ***How do I change my reply-to address?!?!?!*** Sendmail allows you to do this, except you'd have to manually enter all the headers like From:, To:, etc. That's the only way *I* know of. Try: sendmail -fwhoever@iname.com recipient recipient etc To: someone From: You Subject: Something this is how. . --- Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ Resume: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/resume.shtml AKA Sunspot on Paradise talker Member of the HTML Writers Guild From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:01 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26589 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16562 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16558 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBb-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Goubet" Subject: Pine & MS Mail Date: 1 Feb 1997 17:29:24 GMT Message-ID: <01bc105c$c9310580$LocalHost@goubraph.skynet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I'm a user of Microsoft Mail, which seems to have one (more) bug : the body of one of my correspondent's messages, who uses Pine, is not displayed, though the whole message is downloaded (it even appears when viewing the message source). Does anyone has ever heard of an incompatibility between Pine and MS Mail ? Is there something that can be done ? Thanks. -- Raphael Goubet goubet@skynet.be (e-mail replies prefered) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:02 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26599 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16574 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16564 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBe-00038lC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Multiple nntp servers? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:36:28 GMT As far as I understand it, I can configure PINE to access several news-collections on multiple news servers, but it only supports posting to the one nntp server that's configured in the nntp-server configuration. The other collections are effectively "read-only". Obviously(?), one cannot post to a group that isn't supported by the particular server that one has configured, even if it would otherwise accept the posting. Also, when the news collections are displayed in the menu, under each news server it lists the entire menu of groups subscribed to, regardless of whether they are really available on that server. When you try to access a group that the particular server does not support, it gives error 411 No such group. Have I understood the supported options correctly, or is there some feature that I've missed? As you may guess, I have read+post access to some limited-distribution groups on a remote server, but need to access the rest of the normal usenet groups repertoire via my normal server. thanks for any suggestions From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:48 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26604 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA15494 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA15490 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBe-00038kC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mats@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mathews J. Thundyil) Subject: Help!! Suspended mesgs in Pine are Killing ME!! Date: 1 Feb 1997 12:31:46 -0600 Message-ID: <5d026i$laj@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> Hi, I have a problem. When I am composing a mail and for whateer reason have to attach a file (^T), and then decide to cancel the operation (^C) I have always been returned to the mail I was composing with my command cancelled. But, I have a new account, that when I do the same thing, essentially *suspends* the message, and *quits* to the unix prompt. And I lose everything (bwaaa haaaa!!). Now if I want to exit from unix, I am told that I have suspended messages. I would like to know (a) what config settings I need to have so that I dont get quit out of pine everytime I have to conacel some command (b) What unix command do I use to recover/unsuspend suspended messages? (c) what pine command do I need to use to recover/unsuspend suspended messages. Matt p.s. I dont have a suspended folder in my pine, nor is anything saved in my posponed or saved folder. p.p.s excuse the typos. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:50 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26583 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA15488 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA15484 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBb-00038hC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Ed White Subject: Foreign news servers Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.95. I have two news servers set up in my configuration, and two news folders for each. The second news server is foreign, not a part of my ISP nntp server, and its newsgroups are not available on the local nntp server. I can read groups from the foreign server, but cannot post. Pine validates groups only on the local server. In the "secrets of pine" help file, it states that Pine will only post to a second news server listed in the configuration if the first news server is not responding. This means that, if the first server responds, and the requested newsgroup is not on that server, Pine will respond with an error, and will not proceed to the second server. Is there any way around this? Thanks, Tom Ed White From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:07:27 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26648 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA15556 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:04:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA15552 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:04:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrFj-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 18:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Help!! Suspended mesgs in Pine are Killing ME!! Date: 2 Feb 1997 01:36:43 GMT Message-ID: References: <5d026i$laj@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> On 1 Feb 1997 12:31:46 -0600, Mathews J. Thundyil wrote: > >But, I have a new account, that when I do the same thing, essentially >*suspends* the message, and *quits* to the unix prompt. And I lose everything >(bwaaa haaaa!!). Now if I want to exit from unix, I am told that I have >suspended messages. Sounds to me like it's just a matter of Pine (or unix?) interpretting your keystrokes into the "suspend" command, (^Z). >I would like to know >(a) what config settings I need to have so that I dont get quit out of pine >everytime I have to conacel some command You could de-select 'enable-suspend' from the Pine configuration screen. >(b) What unix command do I use to recover/unsuspend suspended messages? 'fg' will put the last suspended job back into the foreground. >(c) what pine command do I need to use to recover/unsuspend suspended >messages. > >p.s. I dont have a suspended folder in my pine, nor is anything saved in >my posponed or saved folder. Well if it was, in fact Pine which was "suspending" your message, it would be writing it to your postponed folder. I'm quite sure that it's a case of Unix suspending the job. > >p.p.s excuse the typos. Happen's to the best of us... ;-) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Conway's Law: In any organization there will always be one person who knows what is going on. This person must be fired. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:33:06 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:33:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26911 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA16920 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:29:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA16916 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:29:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrgQ-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 18:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Many Thanks Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:03:29 GMT Message-ID: References: anteboth@mailserv.tu-freiberg.de (Stefanie Anteboth): > I'm looking for some mail from far away. > Maybe it's a first try to start collect adresses. Why? What for? Will Email from berlin suffice? ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 19:42:40 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:42:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27550 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA16584 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA16580 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:39:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqsm9-00038kC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 19:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5d0hae$7ib@usenet11.interramp.com> Date: 1 Feb 1997 23:32:08 GMT Control: cancel <5d0hae$7ib@usenet11.interramp.com> Message-ID: Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:03:28 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:03:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28393 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:03:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA18545 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 20:58:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eve.speakeasy.org (eve.speakeasy.org [199.238.226.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA18533 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 20:58:26 -0800 From: eddisc@speakeasy.org Received: from localhost (eddisc@localhost) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06036 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 20:57:23 -0800 (PST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, barbara@fusioni.com, helixlm@aol.com, BOBDE@MICROSOFT.COM, bblythe@javanet.com, carolyns@mountaineers.org, daveb@delorme.com, David Egan , Andrea Pruneda , yurica@sol.racsa.co.cr, yurica@speakeasy.org, Evelyn , gbove@bih.harvard.edu, 74553.104@compuserve.com, jimh@scn.org, "discnw@speakeasy.org" , JEKEL@aol.com, justineb@pcc.celestial.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, Molly Morgan , della@u.washington.edu, zingzong@aol.com, rebeccaw@wolfenet.com, "sammy@speakeasy.org" Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:10:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Nancy J. Peacock" To: shani taha Cc: jalair box , "T. J. Morrison" , eddisc@speakeasy.org, marloti@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: hwa@octet.com To: misha Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] >From: ATarelkine@aol.com >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:00:53 -0500 (EST) >To: hwa@octet.com >Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] >X-UIDL: fb7ee51f66f5f06e6edf4a0673d85fc0 > > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: Romka@ix.netcom.com (Roman) >To: dimash@ix.netcom.com (Dima), sergeys@ix.netcom.com (Sergey), >103600.360@compuserve.com, andranik@ix.netcom.com (Araik), atarelkine@aol.com >(Alexandre Tarelkine) >Date: 97-01-30 01:28:30 EST > >Return-Path: >Received: from aig-fw1.aig.com (ACCESSAIG1.AIG.COM [167.230.227.138]) by >ixmail2.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id OAA10752; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:39:04 -0800 (PST) >Received: from aigmail.aig.com by aig-fw1.aig.com > via smtpd (for ixmail2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.62]) with SMTP; >28 Jan 1997 22:37:35 UT >Received: by aigmail.aig.com > (1.37.109.16/16.2-WT4.0) id AA055330015; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:33:35 -0500 >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:33:18 -0500 >From: "Kirill.Sirotinskiy" >Message-Id: >Subject: Re: Internet Virus >To: nazas@msn.com, abank@nicom.com, victor@iquest.net, scsi@arkada.spb.su, > alex@unice.spb.ru, melvin.lopez@hfsinc.com, romka@ix.netcom.com, > JStrupel@aol.com, alex@dbna.com >X400-Mts-Identifier: [ /P=AIG/A=MCI/C=US/ ; n\wtln01\970128143318g ] >X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.0.2-p8)/MIME > >---------------------- Forwarded by Kirill Sirotinskiy on 01/28/97 12:39 PM >--------------------------- > >I just got this E-Mail Message. Please pass it on to anyone you know. > > >Would hate to see a bad thing happen to any of MY friends, so please >read this important message I received from my Corporate Headquarters and >forward it on to YOUR friends. > >** High Priority ** > >Please read and heed the attached re: a new virus that is being transmitted >via Internet. > >There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you >receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO NOT read >the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. > >Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times" nationwide, if >you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus >that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. Please be careful > >and >forward this mail to anyone you care about. > >The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major >importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new computer >virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ONLINE that is >unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known >viruses such as "Stoned," "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in >comparison to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped >mentality. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the >fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be >affected and spread through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. > >Once a computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the >computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the >program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in an >nth-complexity infinite binary loop - which can severely damage the >processor if left running that way too long. Unfortunately, most novice >computer users will not realize what is happening until it is far too late. >Luckily, there is >one sure means of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. > >It always travels to new computers the same way, in a text e-mail message >with the subject line reading "Good Times." Avoiding infection is easy once >the file has been received simply by NOT READING IT! The act of loading >the file into the mail servers ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline >program to initialize and execute. The program is highly intelligent - it >will send copies of itself to everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a >receive-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then >proceed to trash the computer it is running on. > >The bottom line is: If you receive a file with the subject line "Good >Times," delete it immediately! Do not read it. Rest assured that whoever's >name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. Warn your >friends and local system users of this newest threat to the Internet! It >could save them a lot of time and money. > >PASS THIS WARNING ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW -- DO IT NOW !!!!! > > >--------- End forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > ------------------ Boris Rayskin HERE WE ARE UNLIMITED, Inc. hwa@octet.com http://www.umich.edu/~yegor/mitki/recent/skiif http://www.brainiactive.com/katya/SKIIF +1/718/369.0147 phone/fax SERGEY KURYOKHIN INTERNATIONAL INTERDISCIPLINARY FESTIVAL, JANUARY 15-25/1997, New York, USA Knitting Factory/Cooler/Bitter End/Washington Square Church From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:22:48 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:22:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28203 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17614 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:20:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sdsu.edu (mail.sdsu.edu [130.191.25.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17607 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:19:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (sem@localhost) by mail.sdsu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA29245 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:19:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:19:30 -0800 (PST) From: Siao ling Sem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disc exceeded Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Ling From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:24:14 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:24:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28604 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17634 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu (rohan.sdsu.edu [130.191.143.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17630 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (sem@localhost) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20456 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:31 -0800 (PST) From: sem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disc exceeded Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Ling From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:43:53 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:43:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28847 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17832 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17828 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:09 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id VAA29303; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:08 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Internet virus Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please DO NOT take this seriously. The 'GOOD TIMES' virus is what you've already read. There is no danger to your computer or its files. The 'GOOD TIMES' virus is nothing more than an e-mail message that has been propagated around the world more times than I would care to imagine. The message IS the virus, and spreading it to all of your friends to warn them only serves to put further strain on an already overwhelmed Internet. There are only two ways your computer can become infected with a virus from e-mail: one is if the e-mail is contains a Word for Windows macro virus - but it would have to be put into your hard drive and run *as* a Word macro. The only other possibility of contracting a virus from email is from an attached file, and you *still* won't infect your computer by simply reading it. There IS no virus that your computer can aquire from your *reading* your e-mail. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 22:18:41 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29226 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA19372 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:15:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA19368 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:15:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqvAO-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 22:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Aronson Subject: Re: News Question Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:58:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Bruce Ramsay wrote: brucer> I was wandering if Pine had the options so that it would only show the brucer> newsgroups with unread mail in it. I know netscape does it but I've brucer> really got into using pine. The reason I could do with this is that I brucer> have at least 30 company related newsgroups to go through each day. brucer> Most only get occasional postings so it would be nice if it only brucer> showed me the ones that have messages in them. There may be an easier way (I've only been using pine for one day now), but the way I've been doing this is to use the Delete and Exclude features (to make it think that the ones with no new news are empty), and when I want to see all the new news, I go to the first one and let TAB take me to the next one with new news. This way, it imitates pretty closely the behavior I'm used to from .QWK-type offline readers, or Maximus BBSes doing Browse/Tagged/New/Read. -Dave Aronson, Sysop of Air 'n Sun BBS, at (703) 765-0822 OFFICIAL NOTICE: UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL EMAIL WILL BE RECEIVED BY THIS ACCOUNT FOR A FEE OF ONE THOUSAND U.S. DOLLARS, DUE UPON SENDING OF SUCH EMAIL, WITH A 2%/MONTH LATE-FEE, PLUS ANY COSTS OF COLLECTION. ANY PHONE NUMBER THEREIN MAY BE DIALED HOWEVER MANY TIMES, AT WHATEVER TIMES, AND ANY EMAIL ADDRESS THEREIN MAY BE SENT WHATEVER TYPE AND QUANTITY OF EMAIL, AS I MAY PLEASE TO DO SO. SENDING ME ANY SUCH EMAIL CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS. GIVE A DAMN, DON'T SPAM! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 23:06:53 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:06:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA29838 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA18726 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:04:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tiger.lsu.edu (tiger1.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.174.46]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA18722 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:04:13 -0800 Received: from localhost by tiger.lsu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA72986; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:03:54 -0600 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:03:54 -0600 (CST) From: Ming Liew To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Email message! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am one of the LSU email members, I just want to know whether the e-mail message that I sent to my friend can be deleted in his account or not? And also if it is still being kept in his account or not? I am waiting to hearing from you soon. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 00:19:16 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:19:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30682 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA19536 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:15:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA19532 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:15:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqx4s-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 00:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: Use "8bit" encoding for News. Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:27:24 +0100 Message-ID: <199702020027241155292@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Brudenell wrote: > Hi - > > You don't mention which version of Pine or which platform it is on (UNIX > or PC). In this case the latter is probably irrelevant, but as long as > you are using Pine 3.95 you should try taking a look in the Setup > Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) for the variable: > > enable-8bit-nntp-posting > > If you put your cursor on this and ask Pine for the builtin-help about it > (type a "?") I think you may find it useful to you. :-) does Pine automatically take care of the necessary correct headers for eight-bit postings? What features do you think should the system administrator set as defaults for his users? My /usr/local/lib/pine.conf looks like this: character-set=ISO-8859-1 nntp-server=news.zrz.tu-berlin.de printer=lpr Any other ideas what could be set for lazy or novice users? (I don't use pine myself, so I really can't say). -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 02:33:21 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:33:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA31919 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22163 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:30:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA22159 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:30:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqzBi-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 02:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bauerp@niagara.com (Patrick Bauer) Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: 2 Feb 1997 10:20:38 GMT Message-ID: <5d1ppm$s4b@cabernet.niagara.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also have this problem. The Linux user name that i use... differs from the ISP user name... and so i must telnet to the ISP's server... in order to send mail. Pat. >> I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via >> IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name than >> that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login name is my >> local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the correct one. > > I have an identical problem under Solaris 2.5. Any ideas? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 05:28:47 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA00872 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22857 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22853 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:25:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vr1vN-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 05:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Subject: cmsg cancel <5d237m$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:09:14 GMT Control: cancel <5d237m$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R.Media.for.Sale. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:33:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA32654 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24095 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:31:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from NetUSA.Net (mail.NetUSA.Net [204.141.0.25]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24091 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:31:12 -0800 Received: from Alpha.NetUSA.Net (204.141.0.10) by NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vr20n-001vtgC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 08:31 EST Received: from localhost by Alpha.NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vr1zX-001yXiC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 08:29 EST Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:29:55 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Velez To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looking for the ww mailing list. how to get into internet services, it says no access. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01235 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24322 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24316 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:24 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 14:53:16 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00502 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:58:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:58:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: pine user-list Subject: Re: Many Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >From: Sven Guckes >anteboth@mailserv.tu-freiberg.de (Stefanie Anteboth): >> I'm looking for some mail from far away. >> Maybe it's a first try to start collect adresses. >Why? What for? Will Email from berlin suffice? ;-) Yet another lonely co-ed? Apart from that, Berlin sucks BIG time. Bonn is farther away and a *lot* cooler. Write to me/ME TOO!!! Cheers, ROBIN@AOL.COM ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01247 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24328 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24324 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:35 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 14:53:27 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00665; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:28:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:28:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: sem cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: disc exceeded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 Feb 1997, sem wrote: >To whom it may concern, > >I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved >the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that >I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Depends on the OS your pine is running on. To state the obvious, the easiest thing to do is to rtfm: man rm man quota man mv If you're a very brave man, try the following: cd (or cd Mail or where ever you suspect the large files to hide) ls -alFS | less rm That should get you started right now. If you keep getting large files on a regular basis, try to tell the senders that email is not made for that and that they had better use ftp. Also, try to get more disk space if necessary - talk to your sysadmin for that. He's also the person you ought to turn to with problems like the one you're just having. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:58:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01228 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24343 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:54:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24331 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:54:09 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 14:54:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00619; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:21:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:21:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: eddisc@speakeasy.org cc: pine user-list , "Daniel W. Moehwald" , barbara@fusioni.com, helixlm@aol.com, BOBDE@MICROSOFT.COM, bblythe@javanet.com, carolyns@mountaineers.org, daveb@delorme.com, David Egan , Andrea Pruneda , yurica@sol.racsa.co.cr, yurica@speakeasy.org, Evelyn , gbove@bih.harvard.edu, 74553.104@compuserve.com, jimh@scn.org, "discnw@speakeasy.org" , JEKEL@aol.com, justineb@pcc.celestial.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, Molly Morgan , della@u.washington.edu, zingzong@aol.com, rebeccaw@wolfenet.com, "sammy@speakeasy.org" Subject: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 Feb 1997 eddisc@speakeasy.org whined: >To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, helixlm@aol.com, ^^^^^^^ >74553.104@compuserve.com, JEKEL@aol.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Anyone wanna play odd-man-out? >Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) >To: shani taha , marloti@aol.com Hmm, there's more... >>103600.360@compuserve.com, atarelkine@aol.com (Alexandre Tarelkine) And more... >>To: nazas@msn.com, abank@nicom.com, victor@iquest.net, scsi@arkada.spb.su, >> alex@unice.spb.ru, melvin.lopez@hfsinc.com, romka@ix.netcom.com, >> JStrupel@aol.com, alex@dbna.com Reads like a who is who in ... >>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you >>receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO NOT read >>the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Well, I have my doubts about ascii spreading viruses but here's one for the non-believers from : The Net Abuse FAQ 4.7) Hey, the "Good Times" virus-- ...is a total, 100%, long-proven hoax. For the complete story, see: http://www.nsm.smcm.edu/News/GTHoax.html >>virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ONLINE that is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>unparalleled in its destructive capability. What's it called? The "account" virus? Or the "keyboard" virus? >>PASS THIS WARNING ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW -- DO IT NOW !!!!! Me too? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:02:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA00733 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA23201 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:01:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aluf.technion.ac.il (aluf.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA23197 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:00:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (nussbaum@localhost) by aluf.technion.ac.il (8.8.3/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA24454 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:00:20 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:00:20 +0200 (IST) From: Noam Nussbaum To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Build pine-h on AIX 4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi !! I tried to build pine3.95_heb2.07 on 4 by the command :"build a32". It built a new window with the title PROGRAM BUILDER which vanish afterwards. In the command-line the message was: check_tt_error: tt_default_session_set: TT_ERR_SESSION The session id passed is not the name of an active session. Exception Detected Obviously, in this operating system the command build a32 do nothing. Can you wrote me your opinion about this strange behaviour of AIX 4? Thank You. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02290 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25357 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:38:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA25353 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:38:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 16:38:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA01253; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:57:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:57:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Richard Velez cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Richard Velez wrote: >looking for the ww mailing list. >how to get into internet services, it says no access. Maybe you should start off by trying to formulate whole sentences. That might help to enhance your recipients' understanding. Just my $.02 Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:00:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05124 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28200 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:56:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28196 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:56:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vr7z3-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 11:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcb@alfa.ist.utl.pt (M P S) Subject: POP Client source for unix Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:05:00 GMT Message-ID: <5cqkbs$638@ci.ist.utl.pt> Hello. I'm looking for a pop3 client to compile on DIGITAL unix v4.0 if anyone sent me the source or pointed me a site holding it I would be much appreciated. 10x in advance Pedro Borges From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:19:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05197 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA27309 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:16:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA27305 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:16:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vr8Ha-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 12:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Please help us. Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:09:24 GMT Message-ID: References: <01bc108a$9fad5780$08be11cf@n8.diac.com> On 1 Feb 1997 21:42:34 GMT, Jessie Young wrote: > >Hello. My name is Jessie with DIAC, a local ISP in Denver and we are >looking for some info on Pine. For starters, does anyone know how to >pre-set the configuration for Pine so when a user uses it for the first >time that the domain and other info is already entered? Second, upon using >pine, .pinerc files are left in all of our user's directories. Is there a >way we can get them out of there? Are they mandatory? So you know, I am >measly tech and do not have a vast knowledge of UNIX, Pine, and Elm so if >these questions seem ridiculous, please excuse me. For global settings, you need to set up a pine.conf in /usr/local/lib. At a command prompt, type pine -conf > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf Then go edit that file, making sure to assign only those items which you want to be global. Make the file readable by all, and you should be set. The .pinerc files are automatically put into the user's directory, so that each user may be able to set up certain preferences. I don't know of any way, (or any reason), to prevent Pine from putting them there. You want to have a look at http://www.washington.edu/pine there, you should be able to find all the information you need about Pine. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi I'm having an emotional outburst!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:26:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA06067 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA28096 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:23:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA28092 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:23:10 -0800 Received: from 204.157.98.228 (sea-ts3-p46.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.228]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA17959; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:24:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32F487EA.4212@wolfenet.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:26:18 +0100 From: Rebecca Blake Reply-To: rebeccaw@wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eddisc@speakeasy.org CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, barbara@fusioni.com, helixlm@aol.com, BOBDE@MICROSOFT.COM, bblythe@javanet.com, carolyns@mountaineers.org, daveb@delorme.com, David Egan , Andrea Pruneda , yurica@sol.racsa.co.cr, yurica@speakeasy.org, Evelyn , gbove@bih.harvard.edu, 74553.104@compuserve.com, jimh@scn.org, "discnw@speakeasy.org" , JEKEL@aol.com, justineb@pcc.celestial.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, Molly Morgan , della@u.washington.edu, zingzong@aol.com, "sammy@speakeasy.org" Subject: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message has been circulating on the Internet for about 5 years and is a HOAX. It's a newbie trap. Sorry. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:34:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08362 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA00491 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA00487 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:31:34 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:31:03 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: mliew@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu Subject: Re: Email message! Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32f531c8244a002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:31:04 +0800 > I am one of the LSU email members, I just want to know whether the > e-mail > message that I sent to my friend can be deleted in his account or not? No, at least not by the originator. Of course you friend can delete it. > And also if it is still being kept in his account or not? No way to know...unless you ask your friend. ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:55:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08062 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA01900 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:52:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA01896 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:52:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrCbM-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 16:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: .lock Date: 1 Feb 1997 19:58:10 GMT Message-ID: <5d078i$p6o@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Eric Coughlin wrote: >How would I go about unlocking this original folder or saving the >information in it. This is probably the remains of an old pine session which crashed. If so, I believe all you have to do is to remove the file with rm whatever.lock Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:20:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA08863 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA01021 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:17:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA01017 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:17:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrCys-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 17:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: corrupted folder Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: I have a corrupted folder that I hope I can turn back into a folder that Pine can understand. Here's what happened... it was on a VMS system and I selected all and then saved to a new folder on the VMS system (this is where I think the corruption happened but I didn't discover it at this point). Opened the new VMS folders and saved all to my PC and left a copy of each msg on VMS. Then I discovered that both the VMS and my PC version of this folder are corrupted. I thought that maybe I could use mbxcvt to fix things so I ftp'd the folder to a Unix account and here are some things that happen: When I try to open the folder with Unix pine I get: [Unable to parse internal header elements at 542: 58:57 +0000,1;000000000001] When I try to convert the folder to mtx format with mbxcvt I get: ?Unable to parse internal header elements at 542: 58:57 +0000,1;000000000001 Any help appreciated. BTW, has anyone noticed that VMS systems have trouble saving all messages from a big folder? Or maybe it's a problem with the IMAP server they're using (which I'm pretty sure is not the UW one). Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:41:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11218 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA04862 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:37:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA04858 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:37:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrFA4-00038hC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 19:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:21:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <32F107A4.AAD@ishtar.med.jhu.edu> <5d1ppm$s4b@cabernet.niagara.com> On 2 Feb 1997 10:20:38 GMT, Patrick Bauer wrote: > >I also have this problem. The Linux user name that i use... differs from >the ISP user name... and so i must telnet to the ISP's server... in >order to send mail. > >>> I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via >>> IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name >>> than that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login >>> name is my local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the >>> correct one. >> >> I have an identical problem under Solaris 2.5. Any ideas? This is easily fixed. When you set up your remote inbox, add in your userid. It will still ask you for a password, but at least the username will be correct. # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, # {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders=remote {remote.machine.domain/user=user_id}INBOX, If you need to set up a Reply-To header, put it in the customized-hdrs entry: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when # composing customized-hdrs=Reply-To: Your Name -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi I'm having an emotional outburst!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:11:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA11721 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA04049 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:07:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA04045 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:07:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrFeo-00038hC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 20:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathy Burns Subject: can't open inbox Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:31:31 -0600 Message-ID: <32F264B3.1C9B3881@cyc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm running Pine 3.95. When I try to open the inbox, it says "Last message runs past end of file" and the inbox won't open. Any ideas what could be causing this and how to fix it? Reply by email (I have another mail program) or in this ng. Thanks! -Kathy ========================================== Kathy Burns Cycorp burns@cyc.com 512-342-4009 =========================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA08557 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA05320 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:12:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA05316 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:12:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrFiW-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 20:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: mbxcvt questions Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:03:25 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 31 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > * What else can be used for `newtype', e.g., what is used for > Berkeley mbox format? What about mh format? The types are the names of the c-client drivers; bezerk, mmdf, tenex, mtx, mbx, mx,... mh is a special case. You need to be set up for mh (with a .mh_profile file) and you also have to use the #mh namespace in the destination mailbox name. It may or may not work; personally, I wouldn't recommend it. > * How does mbxcvt know the format of the source_mailbox? The same way that Pine and imapd does, through the magic of c-client dynamic type recognition. > * Can I use mbxcvt to help me salvage a corrupted VMS-type folder? No. mbxcvt declines to deal with corrupt data. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:21:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11193 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA05582 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:18:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA05578 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:18:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrHgn-00038hC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 22:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: .lock Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:41:03 GMT Message-ID: References: ecoughli@bu.edu (Eric Coughlin): > In Pine version 3.9 ... Hold it right there! How about upgrading to version 3.95 first? Btw, the message id of your post says that you are using v3.89. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:32:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13577 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA06981 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:28:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA06977 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:28:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrHoV-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: attachments Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:41:48 GMT Message-ID: References: tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues): > Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? How about using the "save" command? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:57:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15656 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA09259 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:52:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09255 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:52:43 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:50:38 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA13957; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:52:31 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:52:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: tgun@rage.hostile.net cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sven is wrong on this one: the correct command is "View" followed by "Save". The "Save" command simply saves a copy of your current message and any attachments it has to anbother folder, usually deleting it from the folder it is in at the moment (configurable, if memory serves). The "Export" command is related to the above, except it allows you to save a copy of the message "outside" Pine's folder system. In particular it is written/added to a file in your home directory (or some other place that you choose). The "View" command is used to view individual attachments from a message. Having given the View (V) command you will be shown a menu listing the attachments to the message. If Pine knows how to handle a particular type of attachment you will be offered the chance to view it there and then, otherwise you must save it to a file on disk. Note that _where_ the attachment is saved depends to some extent on whether you are using (UNIX) Pine or PC-Pine: UNIX Pine saves to your UNIX filestore, whereas PC-Pine will save direct to your micro's local hard/floppy disk. If you are using (UNIX) Pine and want the file on your hard/floppy disk you must: * Save the attachment to a file on your UNIX filestore * Quit Pine and run some sort of file transfer program (ftp? Kermit? X-Modem?) to transfer it down to your micro's disk. You _may_ be able to persuade Pine to do this directly if you have configured the following in its Setup Configuration screen: download-command = download-command-prefix = However I confess to never having used these and so am unfamiliar with them. In particular I don't know whether they apply to the entire current message, or can be applied to individual attachments. (I'm sure the builtin help system may reveal more information if you care to check it. ;-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 31 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues): > > Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? > > How about using the "save" command? > > Sven > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15856 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA09428 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:07:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09418 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:07:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:04:45 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA17176; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:06:43 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:06:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: AJF cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! How do you send to more than one newsgroup? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, AJF wrote: > I want to send a post to several "comp" newsgroups. How do I do that. I was about to explain how to cross-post your article to more than one (appropriate!) newsgroup, but.... > Can I use wildcards? If I wanted to post to all newsgroups that start > with "comp" how would I do it without typing in each one. I tried using > *.comp.* and it didn't work. Any help GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, ...you just blew it by revealing you just want to send out spam. Sorry! -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:17:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15931 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA08290 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA08286 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:42 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:09:18 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA18418; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:11:13 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:11:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Alan J. Flavell" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple nntp servers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Your precis of the situation is, as far as I understand things, correct. The one slight other snippet of information is that if IMAP is used to _read_ the newsgroups (instead of NNTP) then each server lists only its own newsgroups that you've subscribed to, not all of them. This is because an IMAP news connection keeps its state information on the IMAP server machine (hence per-server), whereas an NNTP connection keeps its state info at the client (Pine) end. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 1 Feb 1997, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > > As far as I understand it, I can configure PINE to access several > news-collections on multiple news servers, but it only supports > posting to the one nntp server that's configured in the nntp-server > configuration. The other collections are effectively "read-only". > > Obviously(?), one cannot post to a group that isn't supported by the > particular server that one has configured, even if it would otherwise > accept the posting. > > Also, when the news collections are displayed in the menu, under each > news server it lists the entire menu of groups subscribed to, regardless > of whether they are really available on that server. When you try to > access a group that the particular server does not support, it gives > error 411 No such group. > > Have I understood the supported options correctly, or is there some > feature that I've missed? > > As you may guess, I have read+post access to some limited-distribution > groups on a remote server, but need to access the rest of the normal > usenet groups repertoire via my normal server. > > thanks for any suggestions > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:13:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17238 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA09648 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:08:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA09644 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:08:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrN9A-00038hC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 04:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jacek Kopecky Subject: Re: address book question? Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:58:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5cbbau$a6e$1@jake.esu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5cbbau$a6e$1@jake.esu.edu> On 24 Jan 1997, Azim Danesh wrote: > is there a way, when you send an email to a group in your address book, > the addresses of all the people in your group does not show up in > the TO: section? Yes, when writing a message press ctrl-r, it should give you "rich header" (if not, enable it in your configuration), then write the addresses in bcc: (blind carbon copy). Jacek Kopecky E-mail: jacek.kopecky@upol.cz WWW: http://www.upol.cz/~kopeckyj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:52:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17675 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA11354 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:48:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA11350 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:48:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrNmu-00038kC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 04:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g3836158@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Daranee Khamheang ) Subject: computer technology Date: 3 Feb 1997 06:12:11 GMT Message-ID: <5d3vjr$hjr@mars.mahidol.ac.th> I have just been a new number of Internet. Now I'm a student at Mahidol University in Thailand. I interested to write a thesis about Using Computer Technolgy for developed Learning. If you have data or knowledge about this.Please Tell me Email address on Internet:g3836158@mahidol.ac.th Thank you very much. Daranee. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:22:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA17737 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10392 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:19:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10388 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:19:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrODh-00038kC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 05:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkrull@prairienet.org (Don Krull) Subject: Re: black n white problem Date: 3 Feb 1997 13:12:09 GMT Message-ID: <5d4o79$lcc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: In a previous article, tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp) says: > I truly need someone's help out there. Here is the problem. >I am using and have been using pine for a few years now. I recently >bought a new computer and my text and background are reversed in color. >When I sign into "general" to get to the pine menu everything is fine. >But when I type in menu or pine to get into the email my screen is black >and my text is white. This is disturbing to my eyes and I have no idea >how to fix it. It is so weird because when I firt dial in, all text is >black and the background is white the way it should be. >Please help me. > >Tracey A. Gaulrapp >Tracey@Asu.Edu >Graphic Design Program >Arizona State University NO, Tracey, YOU ARE WRONG. **NORMAL** TEXT **IS** WHITE TEXT ON BLACK BACKGROUND!!! THAT IS NORMAL FOR ALL COMPUTERS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. You must be using a god damn GUI -- probably Windows, right??? Ugh!!! It is the black on white shit that is "disturbing" -- it is VERY BAD on the eyes, causing eye strain. I can sit (and have) in front of a white on black background for hours with no problem whatsoever. Pine is SUPPOSED to be white on black background -- the NORMAL display for all computers. I cannot help you. Get rid of your damn GUI and start using DOS and/or Linux. GUIs are for little children and high school dropouts. Don -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:59:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA17379 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA12059 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:54:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA12055 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:54:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrOnn-00038hC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 05:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkrull@prairienet.org (Don Krull) Subject: Re: attachments Date: 3 Feb 1997 12:32:33 GMT Message-ID: <5d4lt1$kcq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: In a previous article, tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues) says: >Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? [ 2 replies telling him to use the Save or Export commands ] I don't think this is what he meant. "hard drive or floppy" implies his OWN PC. If he uses Save or Export, it will only keep the file on the UNIX system where he is logged in. The correct answer is: you must download the file to your own PC. There are two ways that you can do this. One way is to use Export to save the file in your work area of your UNIX account, then download the file after you exit Pine. (DON'T use Save here -- that won't work -- it only puts it into another mail folder.) You will have to do this for every e-mail message (tedious). The other way is to download the entire INBOX in one operation. This is what I do. I typed up a file with much greater detail on how to do this. It is, of course, specific to my ISP and may not be correct for yours; but if you want it, I will e-mail it to you upon request. Whichever method you choose, don't forget to delete the file(s) from your UNIX account once they have been successfully downloaded. Don -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:20:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA30646 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13131 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:15:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from NetUSA.Net (mail.NetUSA.Net [204.141.0.25]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13127 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:15:37 -0800 Received: from Alpha.NetUSA.Net (204.141.0.10) by NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vrQ7K-001vt4C; Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:15 EST Received: from localhost by Alpha.NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vrQ5y-001yXkC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:14 EST Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:14:10 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Velez To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We did not ask for your $.02 nor do we need it.That is probally all you have.We found someone who had $.03 who helped us. If you cant answer someone without being a smart ass,then just "SHUT UP". On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Richard Velez wrote: > > >looking for the ww mailing list. > >how to get into internet services, it says no access. > > Maybe you should start off by trying to formulate whole sentences. That > might help to enhance your recipients' understanding. > > Just my $.02 > > Robin > > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 > Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 > 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux.. > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:21:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06473 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13175 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:17:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun.cc.westga.edu (sun.cc.westga.edu [160.10.4.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13171 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:17:09 -0800 Received: from kinki.cc.westga.edu.westga.edu (kinki.cc.westga.edu [160.10.36.136]) by sun.cc.westga.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA15707 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <32F6016B.5B07@westga.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:16:59 -0500 From: Nawaf Muallem X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: KOI8-R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi: Is there a way for unix pine to read the russian character set (KOI8-R)? I am on a russian listserv and I keep getting the following text: ðÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÍ ÷ÁÛÅÍÕ ×ÎÉÍÁÎÉÀ åÖÅÄÎÅ×ÎÙÊ ÄÁÊÄÖÅÓÔ éÓÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÓËÏÇÏ ÉÎÓÔÉÔÕÔÁ ÏÔËÒÙÔÏÊ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÉ (OMRI). åÖÅÄÎÅ×ÎÙÊ ÄÁÊÄÖÅÓÔ ÓÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÅÔÓÑ ÁÎÁÌÉÔÉËÁÍÉ ÎÁÛÅÇÏ ÉÎÓÔÉÔÕÔÁ É ×ÙÈÏÄÉÔ ÎÁ ÁÎÇÌÉÊÓËÏÍ É ÒÕÓÓËÏÍ ÑÚÙËÁÈ. ãÅÌØ ÄÁÊÄÖÅÓÔÁ - ×ÓÅÓÔÏÒÏÎÎÅ ÏÚÎÁËÏÍÉÔØ ÞÉÔÁÔÅÌÅÊ Ó ÔÅËÕÝÉÍÉ ÓÏÂÙÔÉÑÍÉ × ÓÔÒÁÎÁÈ ÂÙ×ÛÅÇÏ óÏ×ÅÔÓËÏÇÏ óÏÀÚÁ, Á ÔÁËÖÅ ÷ÏÓÔÏÞÎÏÊ, ãÅÎÔÒÁÌØÎÏÊ É àÇÏ- ÷ÏÓÔÏÞÎÏÊ å×ÒÏÐÙ. OMRI ÏÓÎÏ×ÁÎ × 1994 ÇÏÄÕ × ðÒÁÇÅ. üÔÏ ÎÅËÏÍÍÅÒÞÅÓËÁÑ Any help would be greatly appreciated appreciated. Thanks in advance. Nawaf Muallem (nmuallem@westga.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:46:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA26494 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA16702 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA16698 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:39:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrTHK-00038XC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Using MH-style folders as incoming folders? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:00:00 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 31 Jan 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > Can MH-style folders be used as incoming folders? I have tried > identifiying MH-style folders with the "incoming-folders" paramter, > but when I press the Tab key from my INBOX, Pine doesn't move to the > MH-style folders that contain new messages. Is this possible? MH style folders can be used as incoming folders; however, MH format does maintain enough state to support new mail checking. The MH support in Pine is strictly for compatibility purposes; it is not recommended for any other purpose. MH does not support the capabilities needed for full Pine functionality. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA23722 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19614 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA19610 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:36:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:36:12 -0800 Received: from campbell.lvc.edu by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970203143420.3d2fcaee@mail.lvc.edu> X-Sender: campbell@mail.lvc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sheryl A. Campbell" Subject: No "Quit" option on menu Cc: ford@cac.washington.edu, dillane@cac.washington.edu, riley@cac.washington.edu, brickley@cac.washington.edu Hello list, Please forgive me if any part of this post is inapprorpriate to this user community. I have a user who has no Quit option on his menu. When he presses "Q" the programs responds appropriately, however, it does not appear on his menu. have checked the archives for this list and have not come up with anything. I have double-checked our system set-up, confirmed it works for others (i.e., our system set-up -- Unix) and am stumped. Obviously, it's not a show-stopper, but something requiring a solution nonetheless. I look forward to benefitting from your wisdom. Please reply to me at my personal address, since I am not a member of this list (Pine generally works so well for us that subscription isn't necessary!). I thank you in advance (and if this requires a summary, I'd be happy to post one). Regards, Sheryl % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Campbell Internet: campbell@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:49:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA28340 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19867 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:44:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA19863 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:44:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrUIG-00038oC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 11:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: CC to another account. Date: 3 Feb 1997 12:19:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32F552F3.34D9@ipoline.com> Eddie Ng writes: > I have a UNIX account at school and an account from my ISP, I want to >be able to read all the mails in both of the accounts. I know making a >"/.forward" file will redirect all the email to a specific account to >the one specified in the ".forward" file but all the mail could not be >seen on that account. Is there a similar file that would send a Carbon >Copy (CC) to another account so that I can read the mails of the two >accounts at both accounts ? If your goal is just to be able to access all your mail easily from either of your accounts then IMAP* is one nice way to do this. In order to do this, both your accounts need to support IMAP access to mail folders and you need to use a client that understands IMAP, e.g., the great and powerful pine. On each of your accounts, edit your .pinerc so that it contains something like the following: incoming-folders={mail.ipoline.com/user=ngeddie}inbox, {mail.yourschool.edu/user=youruserid}inbox The above lines will allow you to access either of your inboxes when you go into the pine folder list (L). The next lines will all you to access your mail directory (and all the folders in it) from either system: folder-collections={mail.ipoline.com/user=ngeddie}mail/[], {mail.yourschool.edu/user=yourusedid}mail/[] Of course you need to edit the above lines to specify the correct servers and directories. Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) * IMAP, the best kept secret on the net! -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:51:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA01091 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA23347 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:45:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA23343 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:45:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrX4c-00038oC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 14:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Piel Jayce Subject: Change Reply-To adress Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:26:49 +0000 Message-ID: <32F5CB79.6F7D@cavalry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I would like to know how can I change my Reply-To adress ? my problem : my actual adress is jpiel@*.unice.fr (clio for * is the standard) by using iname, I have a life-time email name : jayce@cavalry.com I would like to send my mail and that my Reply-to adress is jayce@cavalry.com Now, in the Setup, I can just change the Reply-To Host... anf then, the mails try to go on jpiel@cavalry.com ... please help me... -- -------------------------------------------- ! Jayce Piel ! ! ------------------------ ! ! Jayce on IRC... Percival owner ! ! see me on #Esterel #Jayce ! !------------------------------------------! ! WWW : http://www-mips.unice.fr/~jpiel ! !------------------------------------------! ! E-mail : jayce@cavalry.com ! -------------------------------------------- And don't forget I'm a MI : Macintosh Infantry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:26:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02331 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA26035 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:20:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA26028 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:20:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrXfI-00038mC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 15:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32F4C265.29CC@cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32F4C265.29CC@cs.uni-sb.de> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: > My mailcap file has the entry: > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput Thanks. I'll try that and see how it works! \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:49:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA03069 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA26887 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA26881; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:44:49 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:16 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: campbell@lvc.edu Subject: Re: No "Quit" option on menu Cc: ford@cac.washington.edu, dillane@cac.washington.edu, riley@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, brickley@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32f6785001c9004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:20 +0800 > I have a user who has no Quit option on his menu. When he presses "Q" > the > programs responds appropriately, however, it does not appear on his > menu. > have checked the archives for this list and have not come up with > anything. > I have double-checked our system set-up, confirmed it works for others > (i.e., our system set-up -- Unix) and am stumped. Obviously, it's not a > show-stopper, but something requiring a solution nonetheless. On the menu at the bottom, do you see an O(ther commands) key? Does the Q(uit) command come around if you press the key a once or twice? If so, the person may be calling pine with some "initial keystrokes" such that the Q(uit) command is rotated off of the menu. Regards, ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02743 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA25492 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:45:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25488 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:45:20 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:21 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: dkrull@prairienet.org Subject: Re: black n white problem Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Tracey Gaulrapp X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32f6785601c9006@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:34 +0800 > > In a previous article, tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp) says: > > > I truly need someone's help out there. Here is the problem. > >I am using and have been using pine for a few years now. I recently > >bought a new computer and my text and background are reversed in color. > >When I sign into "general" to get to the pine menu everything is fine. > >But when I type in menu or pine to get into the email my screen is > black > >and my text is white. This is disturbing to my eyes and I have no idea > >how to fix it. It is so weird because when I firt dial in, all text is > >black and the background is white the way it should be. > >Please help me. > > > >Tracey A. Gaulrapp > >Tracey@Asu.Edu > >Graphic Design Program > >Arizona State University > > NO, Tracey, YOU ARE WRONG. **NORMAL** TEXT **IS** WHITE TEXT ON BLACK > BACKGROUND!!! THAT IS NORMAL FOR ALL COMPUTERS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. > You must be using a god damn GUI -- probably Windows, right??? Ugh!!! > It is the black on white shit that is "disturbing" -- it is VERY BAD > on the eyes, causing eye strain. I can sit (and have) in front of a > white on black background for hours with no problem whatsoever. Pine > is SUPPOSED to be white on black background -- the NORMAL display for > all computers. I cannot help you. Get rid of your damn GUI and start > using DOS and/or Linux. GUIs are for little children and high school > dropouts. Well, this is certainly not a question of right or wrong. And it really isn't necessary to "SHOUT" at Tracey or belittle ones choice of using DOS, Win95, or even OS/2. The fact that a certain screen format may cause you eyestrain is not indicative of what it may do to another person. Anyway.... I suspect that the problem, undesireable shift in display mode, may be caused by the a control charater being interpreted by the terminal emulation program as a command to shift display mode. Without more information of what terminal emulation program is in use it will be hard to determine the next course of action. If possible, I'd suggest trying a different user's method of accessing the system and see if the problem persists. Regards, ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03491 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA25916 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:00:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA25912 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:00:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrYHT-00038mC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 15:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wilbur R. Johnson" Subject: Problem "gethostbyname".... Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 16:49:08 -0700 Message-ID: <32F67974.2C92@SANDIA.GOV> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the previous posting, we had a syntax error in pine.conf. Wilbur From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:44:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA06746 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA29003 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:40:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28996; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:40:52 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:40:25 +0800 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:40:25 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: campbell@lvc.edu cc: ford@cac.washington.edu, dillane@cac.washington.edu, riley@cac.washington.edu, Pine Info Subject: Re: No "Quit" option on menu In-Reply-To: <32f6785001c9004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I have a user who has no Quit option on his menu. When he presses "Q" > > the > > programs responds appropriately, however, it does not appear on his > > menu. > > have checked the archives for this list and have not come up with > > anything. > > I have double-checked our system set-up, confirmed it works for others > > (i.e., our system set-up -- Unix) and am stumped. Obviously, it's not a > > show-stopper, but something requiring a solution nonetheless. > > On the menu at the bottom, do you see an O(ther commands) key? > Does the Q(uit) command come around if you press the key a once or twice? > If so, the person may be calling pine with some "initial keystrokes" such > that the Q(uit) command is rotated off of the menu. Don't you just hate it when someone follows up their own messages? I answered this one when I wasn't using pine...shame on me. Anyway, from initial menu there is no Q(uit) command visible. You need to type O(others) to see the Q(uit) command. But it is there and active and a "natural". I don't believe there is a way to change the order of what appears on the screen. So, its not a bug....its a feature. Why show Q(uit) when everyone know it. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:58:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA07290 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA00756 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:55:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA00752 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:55:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vra1p-00038nC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 17:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hikmat farhat Subject: wrong address Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:11:18 -0500 Message-ID: <32F63856.79BC@maxwell.chem.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i've been using pine for a while and i just found out that the message doesn't bounce back if put a wrong address i tried every option that has "bounce" in it but nothing worked. solution anyone? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:19:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA09479 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA01887 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:15:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA01883 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:15:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrcEu-00038nC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 20:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: disc exceeded Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:50:38 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 1 Feb 1997, sem wrote: > I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved > the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that > I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Perhaps you need to clean up your account a little bit. If you're on a UNIX system, you can use "rm file" to delete a file named "file". You can use "zip" or "gzip" to compress files. Type "man zip" and "man gzip" for command line parameters and more information. Hope this helps. Eric Tse [ E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ] WWW : http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ HTML, CGI, JavaScript, Perl, Video games, Comics and more From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:04:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA10308 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA04865 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:00:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA04861 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:00:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrdtC-00038mC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 21:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: camera Subject: Re: receiving mail delivery call while in unix/linux talk cmd Date: 4 Feb 1997 03:21:47 GMT Message-ID: <5d6a0b$p3e@Holly.aa.net> References: <32EADAA1.2F25@ff.ccom.net> <5cf7lp$1n4@Holly.aa.net> <5ch89b$ljr@news.asu.edu> <5csl4l$roj@Holly.aa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article 5csl4l$roj@Holly.aa.net, camera said: > >In article 5ch89b$ljr@news.asu.edu, > hurry@imap2.asu.edu said: >> >>Usually, new mail messages messing up the display are not from Pine >>at >>all. They usually come from some mail-checking program. The most >>common >>is called Biff. To disable it, a user should type "biff n" at >>there >>command line. Of course, don't type the quotes. They could add >>this >>command to there login shells file so that it is always executed >>when >>they log in. The name of the file to add the command to is almost >>always >>either ".profile" or ".login". You simply edit this file and add >>the >>"biff n" command. Also, typing "biff" alone tells you whether it's >>on or >>not. Other than that, I don't have any ideas. >> >>-- >>Adam Myrow >> >> > >Thanks for the fast reply will tell U later if it does the job for >us.... > > > Thanks again it worked ......... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:56:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11553 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA05659 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:53:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nsn.k12.unr.edu (nsn.k12.unr.edu [134.197.1.240]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA05655 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:53:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (sreid@localhost) by nsn.k12.unr.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12/UnixOps/Hesiod/(SDM)) with SMTP id WAA20320 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:49:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: Stuart Reid X-Sender: sreid@nsn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HP Printing problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have three HP Printers (600C, 660Cse, and OfficeJet 350), none of which will print e-mail from pine. My previous dot matrix printers worked fine. Is there something with the DeskJet printers that doesn't work with Pine? Help Please!!!! By the way the printers print everything else, no problem. They are on three different computers, all IBM, and all different speeds (66MHZ, 100MHZ, and 200MHZ). There must be a solution out there. Thanks for reading. Stuart Reid, Principal John A. Dooley Elementary "I am their leader, Henderson, Nevada I must hasten after them" (702)799-8060) fax (702)799-8076) e-mail sreid@nsn.K12.unr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:32:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA11552 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA04597 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:27:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA04593 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:27:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrfCi-00038nC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 23:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wilbur R. Johnson" Subject: Problem "gethostbyname"..... Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 16:25:35 -0700 Message-ID: <32F673EF.35BE@SANDIA.GOV> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just compiled pine3.96 with patch-1 using both gcc and SUNWspro on a sparcstation5 running Solaris 2.5. I set the smtp-server="a good host name" verified through telent/ping nslookup etc.... I keep getting an 'Error sending: No such host as "a good host name"' when sending a mail message. I tracked it down to a failing call to gethostbyname. Has anyone seen this or has any suggestions??? BTW: The "a good host name" is the same as the IMAP server and this connection works! Thanks in advance. Wilbur Johnson Sandia National Labs Albuquerque, NM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:37:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13514 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA06182 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:34:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06178 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:34:12 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:26:46 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA25545; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:28:45 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:28:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Piel Jayce cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Change Reply-To adress In-Reply-To: <32F5CB79.6F7D@cavalry.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Piel Jayce wrote: > Hi, I would like to know how can I change my Reply-To adress ? > > my problem : > my actual adress is jpiel@*.unice.fr (clio for * is the standard) > > by using iname, I have a life-time email name : jayce@cavalry.com > > I would like to send my mail and that my Reply-to adress is > jayce@cavalry.com > > Now, in the Setup, I can just change the Reply-To Host... anf then, the > mails try > to go on jpiel@cavalry.com ... Ummm.... I'm not sure which thing you have changed here: was it the "user-domain" variable? (There isn't a "Reply-to Host" as standard.) Whatever it was I suggest you change it back to how it was and instead do this: 1. Start Pine and go to the Setup Configuration screen. 2. Go down to the "customized-hdrs" variable. 3. If this does NOT have a "Reply-to:" value (possibly along with others) you need to add one (using the "A" (Add) command). If it DOES have a "Reply-to:" value you need to check/change the remainder of this. In particular you want to end up with something like this: Reply-to: Piel Jayce Adding the "Reply-to:" header will cause this header to be available for every message you send (it won't appear on the Composer screen by default; you need to put the cursor on a header line and type ^R). By also setting a value for the "Reply-to:" header (the "Piel Jayce " in the above) this will get set up by default as the value of the Reply-to: header for every message you send. Incidentally, are you sure that you haven't already got this working? Your question appeared on the comp.mail.pine/Pine-Info forum as having come from: Piel Jayce which is, I think, what you said you wanted to achieve? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:38:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07352 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA07661 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:36:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07651 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:36:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:32:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA26475; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:34:13 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:34:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: hikmat farhat cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: wrong address In-Reply-To: <32F63856.79BC@maxwell.chem.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" There isn't anything that you can put in your message (or option to set within Pine) to ask that an undelivered message be bounced back to you (or not). This is purely a function of the intermediate and final mail delivery systems. That said, the default for such systems is usually to return undeliverable mail to the sender. The "bounce" options that you mention are nothing to do with returning undeliverable mail. Instead they are to do with a command (B - Bounce) that allows you to redirect a message you have received on to someone else, but making it appear (for reply purposes) as if it still originated from the original author rather than yourself. Specifically, the "enable-bounce-cmd" enables this Bounce (B) command; it is not available by default to avoid confusing new users. And the "fcc-on-bounce" option tells Pine to save a copy of a message you Bounce in any Fcc folder you have set up (the default is not to do so). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, hikmat farhat wrote: > i've been using pine for a while and i just found out > that the message doesn't bounce back if put a wrong address > i tried every option that has "bounce" in it but nothing worked. > solution anyone? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:36:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA14784 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA08874 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:32:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA08870 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrixt-00038rC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 03:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: H*E*L*P Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:19:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 30 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: :>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Beth Protz wrote: :> :> >I have already tried contacting my local support staff, and could not get :> >any help. :> :>Have them fired. :> :> >Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? :> :>Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine :> There is also the source of two guides "Starting use of Pine" and a "User's Guide to Pine", so you will have source material in plenty. I give courses in Pine, and could be tempted to come to educate you :-) :> Source distribution: :> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z :> Pine Technical Notes, included in the source distribution. :> :> :> >Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, :> >and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! We've :> >basically been learning by trial and error. It's nice when you discover :> >something useful, but if you happen to do something wrong, you can create :> >your own personal nightmare!!! :> :>Possible, but not very likely to happen. Read the online help in the S(etup) :>C(onfig) Screen or have a look at the .pinerc. Everything is explained there :>briefly. For Thorough information, turn to the above address. Get the faq, :>make sure to read it thouroughly and there shouldn't be any problems. :> :>Cheers, :>Robin :> :>++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ :> Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 :> Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 :> 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de :>++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ :> On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" :> ... so I got myself Linux. :>++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ :> :> :> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:46:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA14867 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA07562 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:42:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA07558 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:42:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrj8J-00038rC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 03:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: pine3.95 and sparc linux Date: 4 Feb 1997 06:09:08 -0500 Message-ID: <5d75ck$m1i@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <5co192$2sl@piston.ecp.fr> <32EF94A6.41C67EA6@uiuc.edu> C Lance Moxley wrote: : Eric Doutreleau wrote: : > : > I have just installed sprc linux ( Redhat distribution ) on a SS2 and i m : > trying to install : > pine-3.95. : > I got the following answers : > : > cc -c -g -Dlnx -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE osdep.c : > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 : > make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 : I did it, but I just grabbed the src.rpm from : RedHat and used that to start with. There are : a few patches that they made to get it to run. I'm afraid 'signal 11' is a much more ominous sign than that Pine 3.95 source needs some patch to get compiled under Sparc Linux. Not that patches are unnecessary but that signal 11 must have come from sort of hardware failure such as defect in SIMM module on the machine in question. There's a web page dealing with various reasons for 'signal 11', but I don't have URL handy at the moment. You may search for 'signal 11 and linux' with search engine. Jungshik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:42:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA15365 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA08383 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:39:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.unice.fr (shell.unice.fr [134.59.2.163]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA08379 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:39:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (jpiel@localhost) by shell.unice.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09510; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:40:05 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:40:03 +0000 (WET) From: Jayce Piel Reply-To: jayce@cavalry.com To: Mike Brudenell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Change Reply-To adress In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Incidentally, are you sure that you haven't already got this working? > Your question appeared on the comp.mail.pine/Pine-Info forum as having > come from: > > Piel Jayce > > which is, I think, what you said you wanted to achieve? > > Cheers, > First, thanks a lot... Second, i haven't already got this working, for the other post, I used Netscape... :-) Now it works fine with pine... it's better... -------------------------------------------- ! Jayce Piel ! ! ------------------------ ! ! Jayce on IRC... Percival owner ! ! see me on #Esterel #Jayce ! !------------------------------------------! ! WWW : http://www-mips.unice.fr/~jpiel ! !------------------------------------------! ! E-mail : jayce@cavalry.com ! -------------------------------------------- And don't forget I'm a MI : Macintosh Infantry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:30:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA19756 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA13270 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:22:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (miavx1.acs.muohio.edu [134.53.7.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA13266 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:22:33 -0800 Received: from miavx1.acs.muohio.edu by miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (PMDF V5.1-5 #19147) id <01IF0NM4JXU891XEH1@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:22:27 EST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 12:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: yorkam@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: help please! To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII my address is binkleaw@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu i am writing from a friends account because my account will no longer let me send... it says this...when i try to send: error starting mailer process:acp file create failed then it says: can't append to mailbox deadletter:no such file created i have tried deleting many of my old file and now i only have afew and it still will not work..what should i do to get it back on track..please write me back at my address thank you evry much for your time.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23168 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA15584 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:59:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA15580 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:59:52 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA11971; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:56:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:56:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: redhat-list@redhat.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 using rsh for rimap rather than going for straight imap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Using Red Hat Linux 4.0 + updates. Pine 3.95. I'm trying to use Pine 3.95 to connect to an IMAP server. It appears, though, that Pine is configured to attempt to use rsh to invoke rimapd before trying imap directly. (1) Why? (2) Is there a way to change this? My mail server isn't about to allow users to rsh into it. Having to wait 10 seconds for rsh to fail each time I attempt to access a new folder is rather annoying. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:59:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA24666 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA16920 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:54:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16916 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:54:10 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA15815; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: redhat-list@redhat.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 using rsh for rimap rather than going for straight imap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To answer my own question: set the "rsh-open-timeout" option in "$HOME/.pinerc" to "0": # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout=0 -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:06:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26969 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA18699 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:58:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA18695 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:58:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrqqj-00038wC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 11:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morpheus@calweb.com (Steve Lamb) Subject: Re: Re-sending a message in Pine Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:35:21 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:14:47 +0000, Barry Landy in <> wrote: >No. Bounce is different (different headers); it may or may not be what >is wanted. Personally, I don't think one would worry about the extra headers. The two/from and bounced-to/bounced-from are the same, it means it was resent which is exactly what the original poster wanted. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus | employer's. They hired me for my PGP key upon request | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---------------------------------------+------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA27861 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA19624 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:35:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from multicomputo.multinet.com.co (multicomputo.multinet.com.co [206.114.27.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA19613 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:35:14 -0800 Received: from [206.114.27.88] by multicomputo.multinet.com.co (SMTPD32-3.02) id AC8091E012A; Tue, 04 Feb 1997 15:30:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970204233506.00669138@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> X-Sender: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 15:35:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: SOLON CACERES MORENO Subject: Last version of Pine Mail for SCO UNIX I wish to know where is the program PINE MAIL for SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2. I download the version 3.95 of pine mail and I have very much problems to compile with build clean build sco Please, do you can help me? Thanks SOLON CACERES MORENO (COLOMBIA) SOLON CACERES MORENO INGENIERO DE SISTEMAS UIS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:58:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA30111 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA21804 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:52:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA21800 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:52:26 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA07588; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:40:50 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa11559; 4 Feb 97 22:15 WET Received: from localhost by pulsar.ciint.nl id aa00877; 4 Feb 97 22:17 WET Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:17:09 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: SOLON CACERES MORENO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Last version of Pine Mail for SCO UNIX In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970204233506.00669138@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, SOLON CACERES MORENO wrote: > I wish to know where is the program PINE MAIL for SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2. I > download the version 3.95 of pine mail and I have very much problems to > compile with > build clean > build sco > > Please, do you can help me? Could you please provide us with some details on what goes wrong? It should compile just fine, providing you have the crypt supplement installed (the SCO Internation crypt supplement can be obtained as lng225b from ftp.sco.com in the directory SLS). You'll need this supplement if you get link errors on a function call containing the word "crypt". Should you decide to install the supplement, you'll have to manually execute the statement ln /usr/lib/libcrypt_i.a /usr/lib/libcrypt.a afterwards to get the correct library name for Pine. Again, please provide more details if things continue to go wrong. Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:39:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA00711 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22777 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:34:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22771 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:34:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vruBE-00038xC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 15:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moez Bali Subject: crosspost Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi pine users, I'm a new user and of course this will be the 10000 time you see these questions : - can I put the name of newsgroup in the adress book ? - how can I post my message to two or more newsgroup ? thank in advance __________________________________________________ Moez BALI e-mail : bali@citi2.fr Unite INSERM U.467 Biophysique des transports epitheliaux Faculte de Medecine Necker-Enfants Malades 156, rue de Vaugirard 75730 Paris Cedex 15 Tel. +33 01.43.06.15.25 ; 01.40.61.56.26 Fax +33 01.40.61.55.91 __________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:15:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA02045 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:15:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA25580 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:10:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA25567 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:10:17 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 01:10:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA05012; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:08:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:08:09 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Moez Bali cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: crosspost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Moez Bali wrote: >I'm a new user and of course this will be the 10000 time you see these >questions : Good guess... >- can I put the name of newsgroup in the adress book ? Read the FAQ. >- how can I post my message to two or more newsgroup ? Not at all... unless you've checked the message with the guys from net-abuse. If you still feel like doing it nonetheless, be prepared for nasty surprises. Cheers, Robin "Spam me and die" Socha ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:13:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA06002 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA02118 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:09:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from antartic.ccm.itesm.mx (antartic.ccm.itesm.mx [148.241.155.119]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA02114 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:09:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by antartic.ccm.itesm.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36000; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:08:24 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:08:24 -0600 (CST) From: "RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using pine from Mexico City and I can't seem to be able to mail anyone who is using AOL. If anyone has a suggestion, please send it my way. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA10467 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04245 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:13:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ETSUVAX.ETSU-TN.EDU (ETSUVAX.etsu-tn.edu [151.141.8.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04241 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:13:18 -0800 Received: from ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu by ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu (PMDF V5.1-4 #16780) id <01IF1IQFKWZ68WXQVN@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu> for PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:13:10 EST Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 03:13:09 -0500 (EST) From: salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HELLO, I NEED INFO ABOUT THIS END OF THE MONTH SITUATION. I USED THAT OPTION AND NOW HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO RETRIEVE MY MAIL? ANY AND ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. SINCERELY YOURS, LORA MCMILLAN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:26:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA10912 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA07001 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:22:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06997 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:22:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:18:30 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA27314; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:20:20 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:20:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Moez Bali cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: crosspost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Moez Bali wrote: > > >- can I put the name of newsgroup in the adress book ? > > Read the FAQ. You can find this on the World-Wide Web at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html Other information about Pine can be found at the Pine Information Centre: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > >- how can I post my message to two or more newsgroup ? > > Not at all... unless you've checked the message with the guys from > net-abuse. If you still feel like doing it nonetheless, be prepared for > nasty surprises. Ummm.... there are, of course, quite legitimate cases for posting an article to two or more newsgroups. (I do it with our local newsgroups when trying to move an off-group thread from one group to another.) To post an article to more than one newsgroup just list the newsgroup names with commas in between (this information is in Pine's built-in help somewhere, but apparently not in the obvious place: the description of the "Newsgroups:" header -- I'll suggest it to the Pine Team). However as Robin says, do use this facility wisely and in moderation: people don't like seeing the same article cross-posted gazillions of times. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:11:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11616 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA05826 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:08:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA05822 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:08:05 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:05:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA07576; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:07:15 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:07:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Steve Stevers! Coile cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 using rsh for rimap rather than going for straight imap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Just for further information... Setting the "rsh-open-timeout" to 0 is certainly one way of avoiding the attempted rsh opening of mail folders. (This variable can only be set by editing the .pinerc file; there isn't a way to do this from within Pine's own Setup Configuration screen.) Note, however, that this affects connections to all IMAP servers. If you are using some servers which do support rsh connections then you may instead prefer to leave the rsh-open-timeout alone. The attempt to rsh to the non-rsh'able servers can be suppressed _just for them_ by appending their IMAP port number to their hostname in your setup. The default port number for IMAP is 143, so a mailbox spec would then become something like: {imap.site.domain:143}inbox Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Steve Stevers! Coile wrote: > Using Red Hat Linux 4.0 + updates. Pine 3.95. > > I'm trying to use Pine 3.95 to connect to an IMAP server. It appears, > though, that Pine is configured to attempt to use rsh to invoke rimapd > before trying imap directly. (1) Why? (2) Is there a way to change this? > My mail server isn't about to allow users to rsh into it. Having to > wait 10 seconds for rsh to fail each time I attempt to access a new > folder is rather annoying. > > -- > Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering > scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Steve Stevers! Coile wrote: > To answer my own question: set the "rsh-open-timeout" option in > "$HOME/.pinerc" to "0": > > # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote > # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. > # Zero disables rsh altogether. > rsh-open-timeout=0 > > -- > Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering > scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11087 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA06100 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA06093 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:48 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 11:26:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA01565; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:44:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:44:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu cc: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu wrote: >HELLO, YEAH, HELLO YOU TOO!!! >I NEED INFO ABOUT THIS END OF THE MONTH SITUATION. It's really good. Money seems to be quite tight, though. >I USED THAT OPTION AND NOW HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL >PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO RETRIEVE MY MAIL? Hmm, you could have it resent. Or you could check your Mail folder for a file called READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz e.g. by typing locate READ-MESSAGES if you're on a u*ix system. You cannot access this file via pine. You can read it, though, using either a new version of less or zless ( to make sure you have those, type "which less" "which zless"): less READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz would let you browse through that file using your cursor keys. If your system doesn't have less, use more or zmore respectively, but ask your sysadmin to install less. > SINCERELY YOURS, Sounds like a threat when shouted ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11813 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA06096 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA06091 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:45 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 11:26:38 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA01502; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:33:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:33:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN wrote: >I am using pine from Mexico City and I can't seem to be able to mail >anyone who is using AOL. If anyone has a suggestion, please send it my >way. Thank you. Using the correct address-"style"? AOL-addresses are different from internet addresses. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:18:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA13501 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10113 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:14:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10109 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:14:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vs77T-00038oC; Wed, 5 Feb 97 05:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:36:28 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been receiving spam e-mail lately, and I wondered if putting a fake address with the Reply-to: header would resolve the problem. I'd use the From: header instead, but this site doesn't allow users to change it. Does anyone know if those spambots use Reply-to: at all, or do they only use From:, therefore making Reply-to: useless to avoid spam? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, STATUS, KI2, Pictures, etc } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/%7Ekings/ "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:50:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA13875 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10530 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:47:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from knights.cc.ucf.edu (knights.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.246.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10526 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:47:10 -0800 Received: from Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu(really [132.170.240.30]) by knights.cc.ucf.edu via sendmail with smtp (ident jmc78214 using rfc1413) id for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:41:05 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #14 built 1996-Oct-22) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:43:23 -0500 (EST) From: Janice M Cooke X-Sender: jmc78214@pegasus To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: viewing attachments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently had someone scan some pictures and attach them to an e-mail message. I saved them to a file and now I would like to view them. How do I go about doing that? Please help, they are pictures of my new nephew. Thank you, Janice From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:12:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA15102 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA11585 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:09:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dira.bris.ac.uk (dira.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.41]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA11581 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:09:13 -0800 Received: from njb.cse.bris.ac.uk by dira.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:08:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (ccnjb@localhost) by njb.cse.bris.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01740 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:06:51 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:06:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Bruton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 4.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering if anyone has any news on when the next version of pine (4.0?) might be available Thanks Nick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18236 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA11438 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:42:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from multicomputo.multinet.com.co (multicomputo.multinet.com.co [206.114.27.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA11428 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:42:43 -0800 Received: from [206.114.27.79] by multicomputo.multinet.com.co (SMTPD32-3.02) id A77B2F60232; Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:38:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970205194727.00676fc0@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> X-Sender: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:47:27 -0800 To: rgering@ciint.nl From: SOLON CACERES MORENO Subject: Problems with PINE in SCO 3.2.4.2 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu thank you for help. The crypt library has been installed. I run: build clean and then i run: build sco The standard output received is: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D make args are "CC=3Dcc " Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=3DANSI OS=3Dsco echo sco > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make sco make mtest OS=3Dsco EXTRADRIVERS=3D"" \ STDPROTO=3Dmmdfproto MAILSPOOL=3D/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=3D/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=3D/usr/spool/new= s \ RSH=3Drcmd RSHPATH=3D/usr/bin/rcmd \ CFLAGS=3D LN=3D"ln" RANLIB=3Dtrue \ LDFLAGS=3D"-lsocket -lprot -lcrypt -lx" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo > CFLAGS echo -lsocket -lprot -lcrypt -lx > LDFLAGS ln os_sco.h osdep.h cc -c mail.c *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Making Pico and Pilot rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE attach.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE ansi.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE basic.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE bind.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE browse.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE buffer.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE composer.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE display.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE file.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE fileio.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE line.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE osdep.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE pico.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE random.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE region.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE search.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE spell.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE tinfo.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE window.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o= compose r.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o= search.o spell.o tinfo.o window.o word.o cc -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE main.c libpico.a -ltinfo= -lc - lc_s -lx -o pico cc -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE pilot.c libpico.a -ltinfo= -lc -lc_s -lx -o pilot Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sco.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -DSCO -DSYSTYPE=3D\"SCO\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c *** Error code 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: bin/pico: 149108 + 34124 + 12372 =3D 195604 bin/pilot: 148140 + 34000 + 12372 =3D 194512 Done =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DEnd of standard= output=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D an the Errors Standard Output is: ------------------------------------------------------ ln: cannot create c-client ln: File exists ln: cannot create imapd ln: File exists mail.c osdep.h(44) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'syslog.h' attach.c ansi.c basic.c bind.c browse.c buffer.c composer.c display.c file.c fileio.c line.c osdep.c osdep.c(409) : warning C4061: long/short mismatch in argument : conversion= suppl ied osdep.c(467) : warning C4061: long/short mismatch in argument : conversion= suppl ied osdep.c(1748) : warning C4061: long/short mismatch in argument : conversion= supp lied pico.c random.c region.c search.c spell.c tinfo.c window.c word.c ar: creating libpico.a main.c pilot.c addrbook.c os.h(237) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'netdb.h' size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open -------------------------- End of Error Standard Output----------------------------- Newly, Thank you very Much SOLON CACERES MORENO (Colombia, South America) Sol=F3n C=E1ceres Moreno Coordinador de Sistemas de Informaci=F3n CDMB e-mail: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:50:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18294 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA11365 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:40:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA11361 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:40:28 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA51518 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:40:28 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11692 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:40:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:40:26 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > It's really good. Money seems to be quite tight, though. At least you still have some. Count yer blessings. > Hmm, you could have it resent. Or you could check your Mail folder for a > file called > READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz > e.g. by typing > locate READ-MESSAGES > if you're on a u*ix system. Robin is obviously one of those there Unix geek type individuals my mother warned me about. gnu-zip a sent-mail file? Huh? You have wierd sysadmins, Robin. Also, all the versions of Pine ever loaded on our Unix system here have had saved-sent-mail folder naming formats of something like sent-mail-month-year I don't think I've *ever* seen a 'read-mail-whatever' foldername. And yes, you should be able to access any monthly sent-mail folder from Pine's folder list. As to the less is more argument, well, whatever. Fun with Stupid Unix tricks, I guess. BUT! I COULD BE WRONG! (sounds rather pathetic when shouted, actually) Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:12:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA19298 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA14132 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA14128 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:08:41 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA42894 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:41 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14349 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:39 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: problems (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN wrote: > I am using pine from Mexico City and I can't seem to be able to mail > anyone who is using AOL. If anyone has a suggestion, please send it my > way. Thank you. (Lea waves her hand frantically in the air. I do! I have a suggestion! Me! Me! Call on ME! Please.) How about a description of the actual problem? How do you know there's a problem and how do you know it's limited to AOL users? What error messages are you getting, if any, and if you're getting bounced mail, what kind of information is in the header? The more detail the better... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA17191 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13665 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA13659 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:03:27 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA04311; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:44:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:44:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Janice M Cooke cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewing attachments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Janice M Cooke wrote: >I recently had someone scan some pictures and attach them to an e-mail >message. I saved them to a file and now I would like to view them. How do >I go about doing that? Please help, they are pictures of my new nephew. Your "new" nephew? What happened to the old one? *argl* Ok, the answer depends on the OS you're using. For Dos, Dos 3.x, Dos95 and Dos NT, there's quite a few free- or shareware viewers at http://www.yahoo.com Check the software, viewers section. Depending on what you want to do with the pictures, there are a couple of rather outstanding programs: Lview (versatile, fast, can r/w almost anything) ViewPro (good for movie files >;->) Thumbs Plus (if you have a *lot* of pictures [/me thinks .o0(any1 trdng"?)) Search (if you have a *lot* of pictures and want to make them accessible through www-pages). For real OSs (u*ices, that is), there's, e.g.: The Gimp Image Magick XView Check your favourite search-engine for those, e.g.: http://www.metacrawler.com What does that question have to do with pine? Why are there so many letters in the answer...? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA20929 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13672 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA13668 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:39 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:03:28 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA04248; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:29:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:29:54 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jago cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Jago wrote: >I've been receiving spam e-mail lately, and I wondered if putting a fake >address with the Reply-to: header would resolve the problem. No. >I'd use the From: header instead, but this site doesn't allow users to >change it. Does anyone know if those spambots use Reply-to: at all, or do >they only use From:, therefore making Reply-to: useless to avoid spam? What a VERY strange idea... REALLY strange... Never mind - here's some URLs that should get you started. I just quickly c&p'd them together, but they should point in the right direction. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+/dev/null here--+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ A must-read imnsho is: http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html For a rough article on forgery, originally constructed for this FAQ out of information contributed by Robert Bonomi, Arthur Byrne, Emma Pease, and Alan Bostick, see: http://sckb.ucssc.indiana.edu/kb/data/all.afco.html For more information on headers, see RFC-1036, "Standard for Interchange of Usenet Messages," at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1036.html The spamfaq describes how to find out where a fake post or e-mail originated from. http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Other resources that you might find useful: ++++++++++++++ Another good document is Tim Skirvin's Cancel Messages FAQ, which is available in HTML at: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/cancel.html or in ASCII at: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/cancel.faq ++++++++++++++ To answer all those questions about Richard Depew and others cancelling misplaced binary postings, Shaun Davis-Gluyas has compiled the Bincancel FAQ, at: http://ursula.uoregon.edu/~geniac/binfaq.txt ++++++++++++++ The news.admin.net-abuse.* charters are stored at: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/nana ++++++++++++++ There are a number of very good indices of net abuse-related documents: Fight Spam on the Internet! (Scott Hazen Mueller/Paul Vixie/others) http://www.vix.com/spam/ news.admin.net-abuse.* homepage (Tim Skirvin) http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/nana/ MaasInfo/Other/NetAbuse (Robert E. Maas) http://NCTUCCCA.Edu.Tw/documents/Internet/MaasInfo/Other/NetAbuse.html ++++++++++++++ If you're trying to cook up some funny procmail recipe in order to retaliate, check this: Axel Boldt maintains the world-renowned "Blacklist of Internet Advertisers" at: http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/blacklist.html ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ I was wondering if it might be a good idea to put a list of URLs together that deal with all the little things that people think Pine can do (although the FAQ says it can't). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA25726 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA17504 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:12:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA17492 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:12:30 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 21:12:22 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA06950; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:46:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:46:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Lea cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII :On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu shouted: :HELLO, :I NEED INFO ABOUT THIS END OF THE MONTH SITUATION. : :I USED THAT OPTION AND NOW HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL :PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO RETRIEVE MY MAIL? :ANY AND ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Lea whined: >On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> Hmm, you could have it resent. Or you could check your Mail folder for a >> file called >> READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz >> e.g. by typing >> locate READ-MESSAGES >> if you're on a u*ix system. > >Robin is obviously one of those there Unix geek type individuals my >mother warned me about. /---> flame on Actually, he's one of those there Unix geek type individuals your mother should have sent you to to learn some computer basics, I guess... >gnu-zip a sent-mail file? Huh? You have wierd sysadmins, Robin. I'm *not* weird! >Also, all the versions of Pine ever loaded on our Unix system here have >had saved-sent-mail folder naming formats of something like >sent-mail-month-year Sure. And if you keep collecting them, you'll be every sysadmin's darling. And if yall there at UAlberta.CA go ahead and do that, hard-drives will become pretty expensive soon, due to world-wide shortages caused by Californian students ignorant of compression tools. >I don't think I've *ever* seen a 'read-mail-whatever' foldername. From the .pinerc # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder="READ-MESSAGES" >And yes, you should be able to access any monthly sent-mail folder from >Pine's folder list. If you're enough to keep them uncompressed - yes. I'll talk to your sysadmin to give you a quota to stop this &/)(!&%. >As to the less is more argument, well, whatever. Fun with Stupid Unix >tricks, I guess. As opposed to what? 3rd class sarcasm, spiced with some half-digested knowledge from ages long gone? Or are we trying to make fun of other people on the grounds of profound experiences with advanced OSs like Windows? Been hacking away at some fancy Visual Basic ++ lately? >BUT! I COULD BE WRONG! She said "but". She also said: '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet Anyone got any suggestion how those could be sensibly linked to each other? One that won't get you locked away for a *long* time? flame off ---->/ Ok, there seems to be a slight misunderstanding. The original post didn't shout anything about "sent" or "read" messages. It said: HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL, so that could be both. As for the gzip-files, those are in fact my own divination, used for storing large amounts of mail. I open pine with a shell script that opens and closes certain folders "on the fly". So the truth is buried beneath tons of hate-mail: The mail is stored in folders labelled -month-year, be that sent-mail, read-messages or something your sysadmin made up. Locate should still work, or find -name "" -print invoked from your home dir. If you your pine moves those folders to a directory different from your Mail-dir, you won't be able to access those files with pine, except by setting up a folder collection (see tech-notes). Can you live with that, Lea? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:34:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA28832 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA22574 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:29:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA22560 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:28:58 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:40:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:51:08 -0500 From: SandraB To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: feature-level:sapling In-Reply-To: <1137cd$c2430.da@news.sfasu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Feb5.164057est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.93 Wed Feb 5 16:38:41 1997 feature-level : sapling I'm curious at to what this feature-level means. I've noticed this in many debug files sent to this group for help purposes and I clipped this from my own .pine-debug file. Where does this feature get set? At what point, if any, does this level change from a sapling to a *bigger tree*? I've looked in the tech-notes and can't find anything on this. Can anyone give me the details? Thanks! ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:11:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30204 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22610 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:07:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tellab5.tellabs.com (tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com [138.111.243.28]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22606 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:07:35 -0800 From: davids@tellabs.com Received: from sunk42.tellabs.com by tellab5.tellabs.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vsGRB-0004fFC; Wed, 5 Feb 97 17:07 CST Received: by sunk42.tellabs.com (4.1/1.9) id AA06163; Wed, 5 Feb 97 17:07:32 CST Message-Id: <9702052307.AA06163@sunk42.tellabs.com> Subject: Which file? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:07:32 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings! I am trying to run pine from my unix account and do not know which file to download from the ftp site. I downloaded pc-pine for windows and seem to have trouble getting it started. I really want the unix version instead. Please specify which file to get. Thanks Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:52:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA01440 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26397 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:48:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from upsmot02.msn.com (upsmot02.msn.com [204.95.110.79]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26393 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:48:29 -0800 Received: from upmajb04.msn.com ([204.95.110.81]) by upsmot02.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id RAA26322 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:45:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 97 01:40:30 UT From: "A.J. Luthra" Message-Id: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Using Pine 3.95 with MSN? Is it possible to use Pine 3.95 for Windows 95 with The Microsoft Network? If so, what are the configuration settings? Thanks, A.J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:34:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05475 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA00998 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:30:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acmex.gatech.edu (acmex.gatech.edu [130.207.165.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA00994 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:30:39 -0800 Received: from r77h18.res.gatech.edu (r77h18.res.gatech.edu [128.61.77.18]) by acmex.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28002 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:30:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970203052941.0066e84c@pop.prism.gatech.edu> X-Sender: gt6617b@pop.prism.gatech.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 00:29:41 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brannon chapman Subject: test testes, testes, 1, 2, 3 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:56:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05951 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA00392 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA00388 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:10 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA01594; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: SandraB cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: feature-level:sapling In-Reply-To: <97Feb5.164057est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Long ago and far away, Pine had only a small number of features, and they were grouped into a couple of cute categories like "sapling" and "old growth". This model didn't scale very well, so now Pine has individual features. In other words, the "feature-level" variable is now obsolete. -teg On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, SandraB wrote: > > > Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.93 > Wed Feb 5 16:38:41 1997 > > > > feature-level : sapling > > I'm curious at to what this feature-level means. > I've noticed this in many debug files sent to this group for help > purposes and I clipped this from my own .pine-debug file. > > Where does this feature get set? At what point, if any, does this level > change from a sapling to a *bigger tree*? I've looked in the tech-notes and > can't find anything on this. > > Can anyone give me the details? > > Thanks! > > ************************************************************************ > Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com > Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 > People often find it easier to be result of the past > than a cause of the future. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:27:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA09704 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA05298 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvino.alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA05294 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:23:19 -0800 Received: (from ice@localhost) by calvino.alaska.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id CAA15048 for Pine-Info@Cac.Washington.Edu; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:22:19 -0900 (AKST) X-Authentication-Warning: calvino.alaska.net: ice set sender to ice-bbs!steve.howe using -f >Received: by ice-bbs.net (0.99.950303) id AA04039; 06 Feb 97 02:20:26 -0900 From: Steve.Howe@ice-bbs.net (Steve Howe) Date: 06 Feb 97 02:16:34 -0900 Subject: eXpunge! Message-ID: <2b5_9702060220@ice-bbs.net> Organization: ICE BBS Network Internet Gateway To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Content-Type: text please tell me that i can use a "disk editor" or some data recovery service to recover lost email that was "eXpunge"d with PINE 3.95 on FreeBSD 2.1.5 !!! it's desperately needed for a legal matter! i haven't used the disk (hard drive) since the eXpunge, although i have booted the machine once. i hope no "log files" have over-written the previous data. can you please adivise me what to do? i don't have a disk editor currently on the machine, and would be scared to get one and put it on the drive. this is VERY important that i recover the data! please tell me it's possible !!! thanks much! -- | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:45:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA14872 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09152 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chicoma.la.unm.edu (chicoma.la.unm.edu [198.59.97.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA09148 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by chicoma.la.unm.edu via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) for id JAA02967; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:39:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:39:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Allison G. Weeks" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine folders Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there any way to construct new folders for my saved messages within pine? I would like to be able to save my messages in catagories of my own choosing ie. one folder for stuff sent to me for school, one for personal etc. Also, is there any limit to how many messages i can store at any one time? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:50:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA16996 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA10707 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:43:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA10703 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:43:02 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA01188; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:01:54 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa00506; 6 Feb 97 17:48 WET Received: from localhost by pulsar.ciint.nl id aa19178; 6 Feb 97 17:49 WET Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:49:58 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: SOLON CACERES MORENO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems with PINE in SCO 3.2.4.2 In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970205194727.00676fc0@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, SOLON CACERES MORENO wrote: > thank you for help. > > The crypt library has been installed. > I run: > > build clean > > and then i run: > > build sco . . > an the Errors Standard Output is: > > ------------------------------------------------------ . . > osdep.h(44) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'syslog.h' . . > os.h(237) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'netdb.h' Judging from these missing files it would seem that you don't have the TCP/IP development system installed. To check this, execute the command "swconfig | grep TCP". Its output should be similar to the following: SCO TCP/IP Development System 1.2.1i installed SCO TCP/IP Runtime System 1.2.1o installed In the "good" old days, SCO had you buy the SCO TCP/IP development system separately from the generic development system. It looks like this additional product was never purchased/installed on your server. Oops... You can try to obtain the TCP/IP Development System for 3.2v4.2, but this can prove difficult since that product has officially been withdrawn as of January 1st 1997. Some dealer might still have one on stock, though. Alternate solutions: - If 3.2v4.2 is a requirement, you can still get the Desktop Development System (version 3) which should include TCP/IP. Unfortunately, you also need SCO Desktop or SCO Enterprise version 3. Expensive! - Upgrade to SCO OpenServer 5 with its development system. These days the development system includes TCP/IP :-) Not very cheap either. - If what you are trying to do is non-commercial/you are a student/you are doing this privately, you can get an OpenServer 5 Desktop system WITH its development system for free(!) Even though we are talking about a Desktop system and not a server, the TCP/IP code should still be part of the Development System. Check out www.sco.com. Then again, your TCP/IP development system might simply be laying in a closet under a load of dust just waiting to be installed :-) I hope this information can get you a bit further. Good luck! Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA21122 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15847 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:06:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu (sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu [134.129.105.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15841 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:06:55 -0800 Received: from [134.129.3.84] ([134.129.3.84]) by sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02380 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:06:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:06:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199702062006.OAA02380@sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu> From: "Sarah Barendt" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ???? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please send me some information on hoe to DECODE a MIME message. I recently received one and I'm not sure how to go about reading it. this would be very helpful to me. Thanks for your cooperation. Sarah Barendt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:44:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA22541 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15721 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:38:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from clarus.cd.pvt.k12.oh.us (clarus.cd.pvt.k12.oh.us [198.234.201.98]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15717 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:38:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (mzelina@localhost) by clarus.cd.pvt.k12.oh.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA28505 for <"pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cd.pvt.k12.oh.us>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:36:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:36:44 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Zelina Reply-To: Mike Zelina To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cd.pvt.k12.oh.us Subject: Deletion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to find out how I can delete some of my messages. I have 21 and need to get rid of some. I have marked each one of them for deletion, and they all have the letter D to the left of them but they never dissapear. How can I permenately get rid of my messages? Many Thanks, Mike Zelina, Columbus Ohio From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA22824 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA16004 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:47:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA16000 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:47:06 -0800 From: sphinx@vvm.com Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by ns.vvm.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA03217; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:01 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:00 -0600 (CST) To: Sarah Barendt cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ???? In-Reply-To: <199702062006.OAA02380@sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You'll need to get a Email program that supports MIME. There is no mime decoder that I know of.. All (that I know of) of Microsoft's Products support MIME. I recommend upgrading to Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0, which comes with a good Email program that supports MIME. -Mike -VVM On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Sarah Barendt wrote: > Please send me some information on hoe to DECODE a MIME message. I recently > received one and I'm not sure how to go about reading it. this would be > very helpful to me. Thanks for your cooperation. > > Sarah Barendt > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:15:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA23645 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17658 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:09:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17650 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:08:57 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id NAA15264; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:06:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Phone Company Internet Service Charge Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got this forwared to me yesterday. Thought I'd pass it along so everyone can write and tell them we don't want per-minute Internet charges from the phone company, as that would kill much of the activity that makes the Internet so great. ----------------Forwarded message follows------------------------ I am writing you this to inform you of a very important matter currently under review by the FCC. Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose per minute charges for your internet service. They contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network. It is my belief that internet usage will diminish if users were required to pay additional per minute charges. The FCC has created an email box for your comments, responses must be received by February 13, 1997. Send your comments to isp@fcc.gov and tell them what you think. Every phone company is in on this one, and they are trying to sneak it in just under the wire for litiagation. Let everyone you know here this one. Get the e-mail address to everyone you can think of. Internet and Interstate Information Services In its Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on interstate access charge reform, released on December 24, 1996, the Commission sought comment on how FCC rules can provide incentives for investment and innovation in the underlying networks that support the Internet and other information services. The Commission made no specific proposals, but tentatively concluded that providers of information services (including Internet service providers) should not be subject to the interstate access charges that local telephone companies currently assess on long-distance carriers. Comments in response to the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking are due on January 27, 1997 and reply comments are due on February 13, 1997. At the same time, the Commission initiated a Notice of Inquiry contained in Section X of the same document to examine the more fundamental issues about the implications of emerging data services for the public switched telephone network. In the Notice of Inquiry, the Commission sought comment on the effects of increasing Internet usage on the network, alternative technologies to alleviate network congestion and provide higher bandwidth, and how FCC actions could facilitate efficient deployment of such technologies. Comments in response to the Notice of Inquiry are due on February 21, 1997, and reply comments are due on March 24, 1997. Parties that wish to file formal comments in these proceedings should follow the procedures set forth in the Access Reform Notice. General information on filing comments with the FCC is also available. Individuals or organizations that wish to submit informal comments electronically in response to the Access Reform Notice may use the Commission's e-mail box, access@fcc.gov. The docket number for this proceeding is CC Docket Number 96-262. The Commission has also established an e-mail box, isp@fcc.gov, for informal public comments on issues related to the Internet and information services. The docket number to reference for this proceeding is CC Docket Number 96-263. A little background.... Way back in 1983, the FCC exempted "enhanced service providers" from telephone per-minute access charges. This was to encourage the development of data (as opposed to voice) services. Internet Service Providers such as EasyStreet are considered "enhanced service providers" so we do not pay per-minute access charges for our phone lines (the lines you call in to). This is now.... The RBOCs (Regional Bell Operating Companies - USWest, etc) have now asked the FCC to charge "enhanced service providers" for per-minute access charges. They claim that there's no longer any need to encourage data services and that the huge increase in Internet usage is causing them be build new, unplanned for, infrastructure. These charges could be as much as $1.00/hour of connect time. Most likely, these charges would be passed on to users (you). Thankfully, the FCC is asking for informal user comments. They even have an e-mail address for your comments. We encourage you to make your opinions known. FCC website http://www.fcc.gov FCC website on this proposed rule making http://www.fcc.gov/isp.html FCC e-mail address for comments isp@fcc.gov ------------------ End of forwarded message ------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:18:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14598 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17720 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:12:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17716 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:12:12 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 06 Feb 97 22:12:04 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA02934; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:59:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:59:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Allison G. Weeks" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Allison G. Weeks wrote: >is there any way to construct new folders for my saved messages within >pine? I would like to be able to save my messages in catagories of my own >choosing ie. one folder for stuff sent to me for school, one for personal >etc. Also, is there any limit to how many messages i can store at any one >time? 1. You don't want to save those messages, but fcc: them instead - folder carbon copy. In order to do this, you need to take the address book and fill in an fcc: for the respective person. Pine will then ask you if it should create a folder next time you send this person a message. 2. "for stuff sent to [you] for school", i.e. incoming mail, you'll need a filtering program. Check: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de for: pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz. There exists a mailinglist for questions relating to any program in the procmail package: for submitting questions/answers. for subscription requests. 3. The only limit you might have for storing messages is the size of your hdd - physical or virtual. Check the free space with df or quota or check the space your directories take with du Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:48:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24759 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18561 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:41:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18554 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:41:14 -0800 Received: from netinfo2.ubc.ca (netinfo2.ubc.ca [137.82.27.44]) by unixg.ubc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00573 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:39:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: anne powell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I am a frequent user of Pine and having just switched to the new, improved version, I found a bug. It is not really a big problem and I know how to get around it, but it is annoying, none the less. The problem is that when you are repsonding to a message you have received, using the relpy command, and there is a list of people who receive the message, it asks you if you want to reply to all recipients. This has not changed. However, now, when you say that yes, you would like to reply to all, in now includes sending the message to yourself. While you can easily just take yourself off the list each time, it never used to do this. I see no reason for receiving the message yourself whe you already get it in sent mail. So I just wanted to point this out to you, if you had not realized it already. Sincerely, Anne Powell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:29:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA25357 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA19547 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:22:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA19543 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:22:29 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 06 Feb 97 23:22:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA03644; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:17:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:17:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: sphinx@vvm.com cc: Sarah Barendt , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Feb 1997 sphincter@vvm.com wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Sarah Barendt wrote: >> Please send me some information on hoe to DECODE a MIME message. I recently >> received one and I'm not sure how to go about reading it. this would be >> very helpful to me. Thanks for your cooperation. >You'll need to get a Email program that supports MIME. You need Bellcore's metamail package. It comes with a mailcap file which lets you link an application to a certain kind of mime-message. E.g., it allows you to start lynx when someone has used an ADVANCED Email system like Microsoft Explorer to compose FANCY and MULTIMEDIAL Email messages. >There is no mime decoder that I know of.. All (that I know of) of >Microsoft's Products support MIME. In particular, I'd recommend qbasic and Excel. They're GREAT for reading and writing MIME mail (Mickysoft Internet Mail Eczema). Plus, they're fully binary-combatible to all platforms available: Intel, Intel and Intel. >I recommend upgrading to Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0, which comes >with a good Email program that supports MIME. I've never come with that program, but I'm sure you got one hell of a kick out of it. While we're at it - what program do you want to upgrade from today? Regedit.exe? And what exactly is that "good Email program that supports MIME" called? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:30:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA25968 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA18760 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:24:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA18754 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:24:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14652; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:22:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: anne powell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It must be something in your setup. I am using 3.94 on Solaris 2.5 and the "reply" command does not include my address. Jim Amanatidis Tel: 516-576-2329 Email: jima@aip.org Fax: 516-349-7669 On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, anne powell wrote: > Hello. I am a frequent user of Pine and having just switched to the new, > improved version, I found a bug. It is not really a big problem and I know > how to get around it, but it is annoying, none the less. The problem is > that when you are repsonding to a message you have received, using the > relpy command, and there is a list of people who receive the message, it > asks you if you want to reply to all recipients. This has not changed. > However, now, when you say that yes, you would like to reply to all, in > now includes sending the message to yourself. While you can easily just > take yourself off the list each time, it never used to do this. I see no > reason for receiving the message yourself whe you already get it in sent > mail. > So I just wanted to point this out to you, if you had not realized > it already. > Sincerely, > Anne Powell > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:20:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA28349 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA21515 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA21498 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA093474397; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:18 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Jeff D. Hinds" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jan 1997 22:20:27 GMT Jeff D. Hinds wrote: > When sending mail from a HPUX system, the pine program appears to hang up. > This is most noticeable with large message being sent to a large > distribution list. However, from time to time, this hang up occurs when > sending a simple two paragraph message to a local user on the HPUX system. > Has anyone encountered this behavior and is there a way to correct it? I have the same problem on two of my systems; Sometimes it takes three to five minutes for a small message to be sent. I still have the old version of pine, 3.91, on my HPUX system. When I run the old pine I encounter no such problems or delays in sending messages. I have Pine3.95 on a Solaris 2.5 box and a BSDI2.1 box as well. The BSDI box has no problem or delay, but the Solaris box has the same problem and delay as the HPUX system. I appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thank you, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA32142 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA26324 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:23:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA26320 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:23:44 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:23:17 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: mzelina@cd.pvt.k12.oh.us Subject: Re: Deletion Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32faa02608dc002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:23:19 +0800 > I am trying to find out how I can delete some of my messages. I have 21 > and need to get rid of some. I have marked each one of them for > deletion, > and they all have the letter D to the left of them but they never > dissapear. How can I permenately get rid of my messages? Try X as is eXpunge. While you are at it you may as will try using the context sensitive help and read the help menus. You'll be glad you did. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:31:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02422 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29114 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:20:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lw1.vsnl.net.in (lw1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.31.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29104 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:20:12 -0800 Received: by lw1.vsnl.net.in; id AA19341; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:49:54 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:49:54 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem facing while composing the messages .... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:22:26 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: helpdesk@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 giasnd01.vsnl.net.in (smtpl)... 550 Host unknown 554 ... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by lw1.vsnl.net.in; id AA20344; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:17:34 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:17:34 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: helpdesk@giasnd01.vsnl.net.in Subject: problem while composing the message by us. (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:30:28 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: helpdesk@lw1.vsnl.net.in Subject: problem while composing the message by us. dear sir, we regret to write you that whenver we are openning to compose any message the following text is automatically paears, how we should remove this from compose file. pls help and advise us, as every time we have to spent a lot of time to cut the text and then type the new desired message. upper india tannery / kanpur / india ------------------------------------- the following message is automatically appearing :- _____________________________________________________ eeing youir e-mail on 03.2.97 I have got the form mailed to you again through same bloody courier co vide C.N.No.D-27172158. Pray it has been received by you Inshaallah. You are well aware that for urgent matters like receipt of H.P.S.Forms and Apeda Membership certificate forms youi must not rely only on e-mail. If your e-mail is not responded within 24 hours of its despatch please be sure that there is some problem either at your or our end. Regards syed Ahmad. P.S. I have right now been told by First Flight Couriers Ltd. that the courier containing Hamdard School Forms have been delievered at your office on 29.01.96. I will try to send you the photocopy of P>O>D. if i could get from them. Is'nt it strange? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:17:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03536 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA02243 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:14:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02239 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:14:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA20815; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:13:08 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:13:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "Allison G. Weeks" cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: pine folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Could I just expand on some of Robin's comments about folders in Pine a little... On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Allison G. Weeks wrote: > > >is there any way to construct new folders for my saved messages within > >pine? I would like to be able to save my messages in catagories of my own > >choosing ie. one folder for stuff sent to me for school, one for personal > >etc. Also, is there any limit to how many messages i can store at any one > >time? > > 1. You don't want to save those messages, but fcc: them instead - folder > carbon copy. In order to do this, you need to take the address book and fill > in an fcc: for the respective person. Pine will then ask you if it should > create a folder next time you send this person a message. This is for messages you send out to others and for which you want to keep copies. A number of people do this by cc-ing a copy of the message to themselves (by putting their own e-mail address in the "Cc:" header field of the message). However a much more efficient way is to use the "Fcc" trick Robin mentions. "Fcc" (File Carbon Copy) simply saves a copy of the message straight to the specified folder. Compare this with Cc, which e-mails you a copy of the message (perhaps involving delays if your mail server is overloaded) which then arrives back in your INBOX along with all the other messages you receive. It is then up to you to Save it to a folder. Much simpler to use Fcc and just put it straight into the folder automatically as the message is first sent. If you just want to save the occasional outgoing message you can do this by putting the cursor on the any of the header lines of th emessage you're composing and then typing ^R (Rich Headers). This shows you _all_ the headers that are available to you to set. One of these is the "Fcc:" header, into which you can type the name of a folder (see below). If you can't remember the folder name you can use ^T (To Folders) to dispay them and pick one using the cursor keys. If, however, you want to save copies of most/all of your outgoing messages then it is best to set up a default fcc folder. Every message you then send will then have a copy saved to this folder. You set this up in Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) by giving the name of the folder to use (often "sent-mail") as the value for the "default-fcc" variable. If you occasionally send a message you _don't_ want saving in this folder (perhaps it has a very large file attached to it) then use the ^R trick mentioned above to see the Rich Headers when composing your message and _delete_ the (default) folder name from the "Fcc:" header line. Of course you can also do this to specify some other folder to save the message to instead. One last neat trick in this area is in the Address Book. For each entry in your Address Book you can, if you wish, set up an Fcc value. If you send a message/reply/etc to this person (and they are the first e-mail address mentioned in the "To:" field) this folder will be used for the Fcc copy instead of the default folder. This helps you automatically file outgoing messages sent to a colleague into the folder you keep for use with their messages. > 2. "for stuff sent to [you] for school", i.e. incoming mail, you'll need a > filtering program. Check: > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de for: > pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz. > There exists a mailinglist for questions relating to any program in the > procmail package: > for submitting questions/answers. > for subscription requests. Actually you only need procmail (or filter, or any of the other foltering programs) if you want to direct incoming messages into folders _as they arrive_ (ie, before you've even read it). This can be useful at times if, for example, you're a member of several busy mailing lists. Using procmail you can direct messages from each list into a separate folder just for that list and read them later at your leisure. Indeed, you can even set Pine up to "know" about these alternate incoming folders by editing its .pinerc settings file and listing the folders' names as the value of the "incoming-folders" variable. Then, when you reach the end of one of these incoming folders (eg, your usual INBOX), you can just press the Tab key for Pine to automatically check the other incoming folders for recent mail; if it finds any it will offer you the chance to read it. If you are happy with receiving mail just in your INBOX (a lot of people are) you might perhaps be asking just how to (manually) save messages to folders to keep for later reference. This is very easy: * Just read the message (or put your cursor on it in the Index screen), then * Type S (Save). This will ask you for the name of a folder to store the message in. Just type in the folder name and press Return: the message will be saved into it. If you can't remember the folder name type ^T and Pine will show you a list of all the existing folders and let you pick one with the cursor keys. * If you type in a name of a folder which doesn't exist Pine will offer to create it for you (this is how you make a new folder). You can see what folders you have, open them, rename them, delete them, etc, in the List Folders screen (give the L command at most screens: Main Menu; Index screen; message reading screen; etc) Further reading: The built-in help in some of Pine's screens: * The Main Menu * The Folder List (L command's screen) * The Folder Index (I command's screen) > 3. The only limit you might have for storing messages is the size of your > hdd - physical or virtual. Check the free space with > df > or > quota > or check the space your directories take with > du "df" tells you the amount of free space left on your computer's various disks (you may not be allowed to use some of the disks, or all of the space on a particular disk!). To just check "your" disk (where your current directory lives) try: df . which will omit all the other disk drives, perhaps making it easier to see which figure applies to you. "quota" warns you if you have exceeded your normal storage allowance on the disk drive, as set by the manager of your computer system. If you are under this normal allowance it just doesn't say anything (at least, on most systems). To see how much quota you have in use try adding the "-v' option to the command: quota -v By the way, be warned that your computer _may_ use different units for the figures given by df, du and quota. For example on our systems df and du reports in "blocks" (where 1 blobk = 512 bytes = 0.5 Kb for our disks), but quota reports in Kb. This can confuse people who think that du and quota are reporting wildly different usage figures, when in fact they should be pretty close/identical. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:32:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04341 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA02388 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:29:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02384 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:29:26 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:27:05 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA26342; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:29:11 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:29:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: anne powell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine figures out "your" e-mail address by following various rules to generate it from your username, the name of the computer you are using, and perhaps some things set up by the System Manager who set Pine up for your computers. However it may be that what Pine has figured out doesn't quite match the e-mail address used by the messages being delivered to you. (For example, my proper e-mail address is "pmb1@york.ac.uk" but some other computer names work for me to, and I also have some other usernames set to forward their e-mail to me.) Try sending your self a message and checking very carefully the e-mail address shown in the "From:" and "To:" headers when it arrives. This may be different (even very slightly is enough) from what Pine thinks is your e-mail address; because the don't match exactly it then assumes the other address is of someone else, and so includes it when you try sending a reply. The easiest solution is to add the "other" address to the list of "laternate addresses" that Pine should assume are also "you". This is very simple: in the Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) look for the "alt-addresses" variable and put your cursor on it. Then type "?" to look at the built-in help about it. You should set this to any other e-mail address(es) that you can be reached as (such as the one in the "From:" and/or "To:" headers of the emssage you sent to yourself. You may like to mention it to the people who look after Pine at your site, as it may be that others are suffering from the problem too. In which case the central configuration of Pine may not be quite right for your site, and need a little tweaking by the System Managers in order to fix it for everybody at once. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, anne powell wrote: > Hello. I am a frequent user of Pine and having just switched to the new, > improved version, I found a bug. It is not really a big problem and I know > how to get around it, but it is annoying, none the less. The problem is > that when you are repsonding to a message you have received, using the > relpy command, and there is a list of people who receive the message, it > asks you if you want to reply to all recipients. This has not changed. > However, now, when you say that yes, you would like to reply to all, in > now includes sending the message to yourself. While you can easily just > take yourself off the list each time, it never used to do this. I see no > reason for receiving the message yourself whe you already get it in sent > mail. > So I just wanted to point this out to you, if you had not realized > it already. > Sincerely, > Anne Powell > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:41:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA06156 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA04243 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:38:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA04239 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:38:12 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 07 Feb 97 13:38:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA04492; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:19:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:19:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Mike Brudenell cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: pine folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Allison G. Weeks wrote: [...] >> 2. "for stuff sent to [you] for school", i.e. incoming mail, you'll need a >> filtering program. Check: >Actually you only need procmail (or filter, or any of the other foltering >programs) if you want to direct incoming messages into folders _as they >arrive_ (ie, before you've even read it). [...] >If you are happy with receiving mail just in your INBOX (a lot of people >are) you might perhaps be asking just how to (manually) save messages to >folders to keep for later reference. You might still want to run a filtering program to save you the hassle of saving manually *after* you read the message. Of course, procmail can do that, too. >This is very easy: >* Type S (Save). This will ask you for the name of a folder to store the > message in. Just type in the folder name and press Return: You don't have to type the entire name, as pine offers tab-completion. Give your folders *unique* names and press tab after the first two or three letters.... >"quota" warns you if you have exceeded your normal storage allowance on >the disk drive, as set by the manager of your computer system. If you are >under this normal allowance it just doesn't say anything (at least, on >most systems). To see how much quota you have in use try adding the "-v' >option to the command: > quota -v Some "further reading" also made me aware of this: Some of the options which can be set when compiling: USE_QUOTAS Determines whether quotas are checked on startup. Default is to not check the quota. That's a pretty neat feature... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA19749 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14302 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:24:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA14298 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:24:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA095417114; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:25:14 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please forgive the double posting, if that's the case. I was not a member of this list when I sent the first reply; I am not sure if it was posted. _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Jeff D. Hinds" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 On 27 Jan 1997 22:20:27 GMT Jeff D. Hinds wrote: > When sending mail from a HPUX system, the pine program appears to hang up. > This is most noticeable with large message being sent to a large > distribution list. However, from time to time, this hang up occurs when > sending a simple two paragraph message to a local user on the HPUX system. > Has anyone encountered this behavior and is there a way to correct it? I have the same problem on two of my systems; Sometimes it takes three to five minutes for a small message to be sent. I still have the old version of pine, 3.91, on my HPUX system. When I run the old pine I encounter no such problems or delays in sending messages. I have Pine3.95 on a Solaris 2.5 box and a BSDI2.1 box as well. The BSDI box has no problem or delay, but the Solaris box has the same problem and delay as the HPUX system. I appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thank you, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:22:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA21256 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14934 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pwa.acusd.edu (pwa.acusd.edu [192.55.87.207]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA14930 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by pwa.acusd.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18877; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:46 -0800 (PST) From: Meghan Mc Coy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:38:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA24587 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA19193 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:35:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA19170 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:35:07 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:34:42 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu Subject: Re: Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fbbc130717002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:34:43 +0800 > Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? Email is not interactive. According to the news reports these days the only "talking back and forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and lawyers. :-) ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:05:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA29420 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA23743 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:01:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dutlad0.lr.tudelft.nl (dutlad0.lr.tudelft.nl [130.161.164.206]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA23739 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:01:11 -0800 Received: from dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl by dutlad0.lr.tudelft.nl with SMTP id AA13123 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:01:01 +0100 Received: from Damveld (p28.alp.cistron.nl) by dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10471; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:01:09 +0100 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:01:08 +0100 Message-Id: <9702080301.AA10471@dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl> X-Sender: lr171117@www.lr.tudelft.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Herman Damveld Subject: Subject change Is it possible to change the subject of a message that is forwarded by a .forward file? I want the subjects from all messages, forwarded from mailbox one to mailbox two, automatically preceded by the text '[one]', brackets included. Is there any way to change the subject? Thanks for helping me out! Herman Damveld the Netherlands From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA00166 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA26860 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:09:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hamlet.uncg.edu (hamlet.uncg.edu [152.13.2.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA26856 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:09:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (cecook@localhost) by hamlet.uncg.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA26805 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 02:09:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 02:09:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Carolyn E. Cook" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok here is the problem. Early, Today I checked my e-mail and it was all there. Tonight I came back to check it again..and it is all gone. Everything that was in my incoming mail holder was gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is up with this? I haven't touched my computer all day and i am the only one with the password!!!! Please help, i have lost a lot of information thaqt I need thank you......Carolyn E. Cook From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:21:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA00588 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28537 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:05:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ms10.hinet.net (ms10.hinet.net [168.95.4.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA28529 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:05:01 -0800 From: tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net Received: (from tonikuo@localhost) by ms10.hinet.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA15550; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:56:34 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:56:33 +0800 (CST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Hello good people at Pine: Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report. What I wanted to know was, how can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into one message in order to forward them onward? Yours, Don ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = tonikuo, full = home = /hinet/c5/tonikuo home_dir= /hinet/c5/tonikuo hostname= ms10 localdom= ms10 userdom= NULL maildom= ms10 cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= feb97 actual mbox= /hinet/c5/tonikuo/mail/feb97 msgmap: tot=15, cur=14, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /var/mail/tonikuo inbox map: tot=2, cur=1, del=2, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/pts/8, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : "" user-id : tonikuo inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/hinet/c5/tonikuo/.pinerc) ======= last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:35:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02999 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA29711 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA29707 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:21:22 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:20:57 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: cecook@hamlet.uncg.edu Subject: Re: Please help Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fc619a08f6002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:20:58 +0800 > Ok here is the problem. Early, Today I checked my e-mail and it was all > there. Tonight I came back to check it again..and it is all gone. > Everything that was in my incoming mail holder was gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! > What > is up with this? I haven't touched my computer all day and i am the > only > one with the password!!!! Please help, i have lost a lot of information > thaqt I need thank you......Carolyn E. Cook Please check your setup/config to see if you have the following feature enabled. FEATURE: auto-move-read-msgs This feature controls an aspect of Pine's behavior upon quitting. If set, and the "read-message-folder" variable is also set, then Pine will automatically transfer all read messages to the designated folder and mark them as deleted in the INBOX. Messages in the INBOX marked with an "N" (meaning New, or unseen) are not affected. ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA04050 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02205 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02197 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:38 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00665; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:33:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:33:57 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net wrote: >Hello good people at Pine: >Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report. What I wanted to know was, how >can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into >one message in order to forward them onward? Two basic options I can think of: On an advanced OS, you can cut and paste them into one message, which still is a hassle, because you need to postpone the new message in order to c&p the 2nd msg. Or you could use an editor other than pine's pico, one that allows you to cut&save text and then read it into another message. A good and *simple* alternative (anyone following up this message saying vim / emacs / blablabla rules will be seriously flamed) would be Joe or some other *small* editor. Since pico is nice for writing messages, but not very versatile when it comes to editing and formatting texts, it might be a good idea to invoke this editor implicitly. In Setup, Config, check: [ ] enable-alternate-editor-cmd [ ] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly and then: editor = Save and enjoy. Cheers, Robin P.S. Thanks a bunch for submitting your config. That was a nice touch. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:33:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA04059 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02209 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02202 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00386; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:32:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:32:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <32fbbc130717002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: >Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:34:43 +0800 >From: Ed Greshko >To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu >Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu >Subject: Re: > >> Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? > > Email is not interactive. > > According to the news reports these days the only "talking back and >forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and >lawyers. :-) I think you got the question entirely wrong. What she meant was: Do my emails get bounced, too, when I use Pine instead of AOL? And the answer is, of course: If you're using an aol address, your mail will most likely get bounced. To make sure it gets bounced, please use the appropriate (or is it default?) subjects like "ME TOO!!!", "MAKE MONEY FAST" or "PLEASE MAILBOMB ME!!!". Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:36:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA21560 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02195 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02190 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00466; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:40:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:40:30 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Herman Damveld cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Subject change In-Reply-To: <9702080301.AA10471@dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Herman Damveld wrote: >Is it possible to change the subject of a message that is forwarded by a >.forward file? > >I want the subjects from all messages, forwarded from mailbox one to >mailbox two, automatically preceded by the text '[one]', brackets >included. Is there any way to change the subject? Sure, but that's nothing to do with pine. You'll need a filtering program to do that for you. The procmail package, e.g., comes with a program called formail that does exactly that (and a few thousand other things, too). Read the Filtering FAQ by Nancy McGough at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Also take a look at Marianne Aldridge's FAQ collections at: http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard They're provokingly cute, but good. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:47:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA18082 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02200 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02192 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:44 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:36 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00759; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:57:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:57:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Carolyn E. Cook" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Carolyn E. Cook wrote: >Ok here is the problem. Early, Today I checked my e-mail and it was all >there. Tonight I came back to check it again..and it is all gone. >Everything that was in my incoming mail holder was gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! What >is up with this? I haven't touched my computer all day and i am the only >one with the password!!!! Please help, i have lost a lot of information >thaqt I need Not very likely to happen. Most likely, your mail got pruned to a folder called READ-MESSAGES-jan-1997 or something like that. Make sure that this folder is not there before throwing a fit. Take a look at your configuration for the following: # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be # offered for pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble pruned-folders= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=97.2 Then, type L to see your List of folders.If, however, this folder really doesn't exist, get ready to panic and consult your sysadmin to locate the mail. Unless you've toyed around with commands like rm, there's a good chance it will be found. Besides, as far as important information on computers is concerned, the old Leisure Suit Larry rule still holds true: Save often, save early. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05149 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03400 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03396 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:16:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 16:16:42 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA01394; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:48:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:48:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <32fbbc130717002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? > > Email is not interactive. Yes it is: Set up a filter that *asks* before it sends any mail with AOL in it to /dev/null (or bounces it, attaching nice X-sources...). > According to the news reports these days the only "talking back and >forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and >lawyers. :-) On second thought, she might mean this: ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ FEATURE: allow-talk By default, permission for others to "talk" to your terminal is turned off when you are running Pine. When this feature is set, permission is instead turned on. If enabled, you may see unexpected messages in the middle of your Pine screen from someone attempting to contact you via the "talk" program. Note: The "talk" program has nothing to do with Pine or email. The talk daemon on your system will attempt to print a message on your screen when someone else is trying to contact you. If you wish to see these messages while you are running Pine, you should enable this feature. If you do enable this feature and see a "talk" message, you must suspend or quit Pine before you can respond. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ This can be set in the M(ain) screen under S(etup) C(onfig): feature-list = Set Feature Name --- ---------------------- [ ] allow-talk but who would want to talk to an AOL-user? I'd rather use a cron-job sending ME TOO!!!s to /dev/null, which imnsho would be the closest equivalent to that. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:37:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05333 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03555 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:32:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03550 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:32:36 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:32:11 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de Subject: Re: Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fc9c7c315e002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:32:13 +0800 > I think you got the question entirely wrong. What she meant was: Do my > emails get bounced, too, when I use Pine instead of AOL? And the answer > is, > of course: If you're using an aol address, your mail will most likely > get > bounced. To make sure it gets bounced, please use the appropriate (or is > it > default?) subjects like "ME TOO!!!", "MAKE MONEY FAST" or "PLEASE > MAILBOMB > ME!!!". I get many things wrong....but we probably shouldn't put words into her mouth either. We should ask her, "Is what you meant....? If yes, the answer is....". Personally, I find it a bit of a stretch to turn "type back and forth" into getting a Non-delivery notification....but as I said, I get many things wrong. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:09:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA04084 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA06153 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:04:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvino.alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA06149 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:04:46 -0800 Received: (from ice@localhost) by calvino.alaska.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id KAA02090 for Pine-Info@Cac.Washington.Edu; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:04:35 -0900 (AKST) X-Authentication-Warning: calvino.alaska.net: ice set sender to ice-bbs!steve.howe using -f >Received: by ice-bbs.net (0.99.950303) id AA04049; 08 Feb 97 10:03:02 -0900 From: Steve.Howe@ice-bbs.net (Steve Howe) Date: 08 Feb 97 10:01:07 -0900 Subject: eXpunge Message-ID: <2c7_9702081003@ice-bbs.net> Organization: ICE BBS Network Internet Gateway To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Content-Type: text Ummmm.... I can't say for certain, but I _think_ you're going to have a real uphill battle. As a general rule it is often possible to salvage deleted files from micros' hard drives using programs such as Norton Utilities. However UNIX systems are quite another kettle of fish, with a _very_ different filing system; I don't think I've ever heard of such tools even existing for them. I hope someone can offer more hopeful advice, but you may have to start ringing data recovery services for advice/assistance. (People will only be able to suggest any to you if you send a mesage to the list saying which country/area you're in though!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 6 Feb 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > please tell me that i can use a "disk editor" or some data recovery service to recover lost email that was "eXpunge"d with PINE 3.95 on FreeBSD 2.1.5 !!! > it's desperately needed for a legal matter! > i haven't used the disk (hard drive) since the eXpunge, although i have > booted the machine once. i hope no "log files" have over-written the > previous data. > > can you please adivise me what to do? i don't have a disk editor currently on the machine, and would be scared to get one and put it on the drive. this is VERY important that i recover the data! please tell me it's possible !!! > > thanks much! > -- > | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. > | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). i'm in Alaska, the US ... but what i really wanted to know is if PINE OVERWRITES the data on eXpunging - or does it merely remove the Inode data for a file ? -- | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:38:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA08197 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA05435 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:32:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA05431 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:32:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtHJE-0003lxC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 10:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sten.Westerback@ntc.nokia.com (Sten Westerback) Subject: Unread mails even if i have none? Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 14:49:27 GMT Message-ID: <5da6o2$oij@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> Hi! I'm just a every now and then pine user having one problem. For some reason the logon check claims that i have unread mails even if i don't have any. How can i make it check the mailbox? - Sten From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:11:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA10706 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA08038 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:05:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms (paaetms.paaet.edu.kw [196.1.70.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA08034 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:05:22 -0800 From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05201; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:09:04 -0300 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:09:03 -0300 (GMT) Cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Note: The "talk" program has nothing to do with Pine or email. The talk > daemon on your system will attempt to print a message on your screen when > someone else is trying to contact you. If you wish to see these messages > while you are running Pine, you should enable this feature. > > If you do enable this feature and see a "talk" message, you must suspend or > quit Pine before you can respond. How does one suspend Pine? I've always quitted before responding to a "talk" message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11499 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09079 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09074 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:22:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtJL2-0003mdC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 12:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: b36nmt@nontri.ku.ac.th (Narumon Teeranuntachai (36056547)) Subject: about attachment Date: 6 Feb 1997 18:10:16 GMT Message-ID: <5dd6q8$3ap@news2.cpc.ku.ac.th> hello Anyone knows about Application/MS-TNEF which attach with pine? which format I should save it and what application program I can view or run this? thanks in advance From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA06408 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10154 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:22:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10150 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:22:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtIEK-0003mUC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 11:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lars Lørdahl Subject: pine, a professional program. Problems with my ISP!!! HELP! Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 13:18:55 +0100 Message-ID: <32FB1DAF.679A@aft.sn.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I've got some problems with my ISP and I'd like your opinion on this, this is the situation: I'm a PINE user from Norway (read: ex-PINE user). The problem is that my ISP won't support PINE, their domain are having problems giving me access to PINE. I've agrued with the for quite a while, trying to get my PINE access back as I really like using PINE, simple and effective. When I got my account they claimed to have a "Complete internet package" and I assumed that I would be able to use PINE, but no, that's not the case. My ISP claims that PINE is a professional program and I can't expect to get access to this via my account. In my opinion is PINE not a professional program, it's widely used among thousands of students all around the world, and I won't claim that they're all professionals. What's your opinion on this? Do you think it's unreasonable to claim that to be able to use PINE should be included in a "complete intenret package"? Hope to hear from you! Yours sincerely, Lars Lordahl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11466 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09095 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09089 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLjV-0003mnC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 14:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Can Pine read a local news spool? Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:42:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Cyber-Babushka wrote: > Does anybody know if Pine actually *can* read a local news spool? If so, > does anybody know the syntax I need for the configuration files? Yes. Set your news-collections in .pinerc to *[] -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA29309 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09099 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09092 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLlH-0003mpC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 15:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: recommended default setup for pine? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:04:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5dc83s$pcc$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dc83s$pcc$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> On 6 Feb 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > While I'm not using pine myself I'd like to create a good global setup > file (/usr/local/bin/pine.conf) for other users, especially new ones. What _version_ of Pine are you configuring? That can make some difference in the options. > Currently /usr/local/bin/pine.conf looks like this: > > character-set=ISO-8859-1 > nntp-server=news.zrz.tu-berlin.de > printer=lpr > > Is there anything I should add? I especially would like that people can > correctly use ISO-8859-1 in both mail and Usenet news, with pine > automatically adding the correct headers. The printer setting should not have anything to do with ISO-8859-1. As you have it there, I would think that Pine will handle Latin-1 messages just fine, provided there are in fact 8-bit characters in any particular message. (If there are not, then for that message Pine "shifts down" and marks the message as US-ASCII.) With just this much, Pine will probably try to use Quoted-Printable for sending 8-bit Latin-1 characters. However, if your Pine version is new enough (mine is 3.94), and if your mail transfer agent is capable of Extended SMTP, you can instruct Pine to try to negotiate for straight 8-bit transmission rather than use Q-P. (If it cannot succeed with the negotion, it will fall back to Q-P.) In the feature-list, add these two lines: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation enable-8bit-nntp-posting With respect to newsgroups, be aware that the standard is still 7-bit, and not all newsgroup servers respect MIME headers. Your users may send a newsgroup posting with ISO-8859-1 8-bit characters and legal MIME headers generated by Pine, but it is still possible for the characters to get garbled by a server which does not respect MIME. There is not much you can do about this except try to get the whole world to come up to the MIME standard. (MIME, after all, is a standard for _email_ extensions, not news.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11440 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10162 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10156 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLdn-0003mlC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 14:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32FC27D8.7689508C@carib-link.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32FC27D8.7689508C@carib-link.net> On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Lennard Kong wrote: > Is there a way to mark all messages read or mark them to > delete with one key stroke ? You can do it four keystrokes (at least for deletion). Go into your personal configuration and enable-aggregate-command-set. Read the online help about using aggregate commands. Then, from an index listing, to mark all message for deletion, enter the four keystrokes ; A A D Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11818 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10166 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10159 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLkm-0003moC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 15:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:46:52 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32F8542F.2781@aeat.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32F8542F.2781@aeat.co.uk> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, John Lines wrote: > Are there any plans to support LDAP in a future version of Pine ? > (preferably looking as much like using the Addressbook as possible) > LDAP is on our list of things to consider supporting, but we haven't really taken a serious look at it yet... -- David L. Miller | The Stardate now is [-31]8840.16 Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12752 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10121 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:45:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10117 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:45:23 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA29990; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:41:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > How does one suspend Pine? I've always quitted before responding to a > "talk" message. Make sure you enable the 'enable-suspend' in the Setup / Configuration section. Then do a Ctrl-Z to suspend Pine, allowing you to start talking or whatever else you need to do. Type 'fg' at the prompt when you want to return to Pine. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12788 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA11219 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:46:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11215 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:46:22 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA00114; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Lars Lørdahl cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine, a professional program. Problems with my ISP!!! HELP! In-Reply-To: <32FB1DAF.679A@aft.sn.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Lars L=F8rdahl wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I've got some problems with my ISP and I'd like your opinion on this, > this is the situation: >=20 > I'm a PINE user from Norway (read: ex-PINE user). The problem is that my > ISP won't support PINE, their domain are having problems giving me > access to PINE. I've agrued with the for quite a while, trying to get my > PINE access back as I really like using PINE, simple and effective. When > I got my account they claimed to have a "Complete internet package" and > I assumed that I would be able to use PINE, but no, that's not the case. > My ISP claims that PINE is a professional program and I can't expect to > get access to this via my account. In my opinion is PINE not a > professional program, it's widely used among thousands of students all > around the world, and I won't claim that they're all professionals. >=20 > What's your opinion on this? Do you think it's unreasonable to claim > that to be able to use PINE should be included in a "complete intenret > package"? Some ISP's have Pine, some don't. As far as I know (and hope, since I'm=20 shopping for a new ISP myself) is that you can install your own copy of=20 Pine in your account. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:39:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA09965 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10685 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:30:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA10681 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:30:37 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:30:06 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de Subject: Re: Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fd36ae281b002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:30:14 +0800 > On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? > > > > Email is not interactive. > > Yes it is: Set up a filter that *asks* before it sends any mail with AOL > in > it to /dev/null (or bounces it, attaching nice X-sources...). Email is not interactive. What you've just suggest is not interactive. > > According to the news reports these days the only "talking > back and > >forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and > >lawyers. :-) > > On second thought, she might mean this: > FEATURE: allow-talk talk is interactive. talk is not email. Try not to stretch meanings too much in order to make yourself "correct". Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:43:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA12820 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11798 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:35:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA11794 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:35:50 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:35:26 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: b36nmt@nontri.ku.ac.th Subject: Re: about attachment Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fd37ef28e7002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:35:27 +0800 > Anyone knows about Application/MS-TNEF which attach > with pine? which format I should save it and what application > program I can view or run this? > MS-TNEF is a MicroSoft proprietary Rich Text format. It is sent via MS Deranged (sometimes called MS-Exchange). You will need that "program" to view it. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:44:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA13452 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10764 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nicnet.nic.in (nicnet.nic.in [164.100.3.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA10752 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:36:59 -0800 Received: from hub.nic.in by nicnet.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA08818; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:10:43 +0530 Received: from localhost by hub.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03374; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:03:49 +0530 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:03:48 +0530 (IST) From: SMG Group NIC To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A query about PINE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nice meeting you sir, I have a small doubt. I saved a message(e-mail) in a folder. I want to save it as a text file. Please give me the solution thru e-mail. Thanking you. Bala Sundaram Scientific/Technical Asst-'B' (Asst.Programmer) NEC Hall, Large System Group National Informatics Centre A-Block, C.G.O.Complex Lodhi Road New Delhi-110 003 Voice : (011)/4361315 , 011/4364951 E-mail : smg@hub.nic.in. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:03:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11385 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11992 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:54:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA11988 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:54:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtPNl-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 18:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: pine can't expand .newsrc Date: 8 Feb 1997 18:26:09 GMT Message-ID: References: <855417119.716@dejanews.com> bali@citi2.fr (bali@citi2.fr): > when I open pine it can't expand my .newsrc. it show a message: > '[400 No space left on device writing article file -- throttling] ' > everything was fine untill today. but when I use tin, > this one can read the news. What does this mean. Pine probably stores the retrieved article in a different dir than tin does. Just tell Pine to use the same dir as tin does and all should be well. Removing and compressing some files can help as well buying lager media. ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:28:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA14430 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA11883 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:20:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA11879 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:20:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtQi0-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 20:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robert@mayday.cix.co.uk Subject: Re: Pine and Local News Spooling Date: 7 Feb 1997 21:31:31 GMT Message-ID: <5dg6vj$r2u@zinc.compulink.co.uk> References: <5dclsb$qfs@morgana.mat.uc.pt> humpback@cygnus.ci.uc.pt wrote: > Hi: > > I use pine 3.93 in linux 2.0.21 (slackware 96) and i have instaled pnews I'm using 3.95 on 2.0.0 based homebrew (originally SLS 1.02) > and suck, with these two programs i can build a local news spool, i have Same > managed to read and post news using tin in local mode (no -r option). But Yup. > i seem to be unaible to read news with pine... I think i have tried > anything... Please help.. Ok, I can't read the news direct either, for some strange reason pine seems to be assuming that the home directory of user 'ftp' is the News directory (weird!) But I _can_ read news if I startup an IMAPd and make the news directory 'News *{localhost}[]' Problem is I can't post anything yet from pine ... I don't think its even looking for inews :-( -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) (Bugs crawl under doors. Programs crawl under Windows...) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:07:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA14906 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13381 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:00:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA13377 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:00:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtRKN-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 20:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: your mail Date: 8 Feb 1997 18:35:34 GMT Message-ID: References: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S. Socha): > Or you could use an editor other than pine's pico, one that allows you to > cut&save text and then read it into another message. A good and *simple* > alternative (anyone following up this message saying vim / emacs / blablabla > rules will be seriously flamed) would be Joe or some other *small* editor. You want a small editor? Well, DOS-Pine users may try "terse" (terse12.zip on Simtel mirrors). Small enough for ya? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:48:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA15066 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA12857 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:40:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA12853 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:40:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtRxR-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 21:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: cool thing for reading news groups with pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:03 GMT I'm having fun converting a lot of my computing life to the world of Windows 95 and I thought I'd let you all know this really cool thing I'm doing for news reading. On the Start Menu I have an item called "Pine News Groups" with all the news groups I regularly read as subitems. For each news group I have set it up to use a shortcut like this: C:\Pine\PINE.EXE -f *{news.myisp.com/nntp}comp.mail.pine -Ii,;,a,a,d -sort OrderedSubj (the above should be all on one line) Then when I want to read that news group I just click the Start Menu item that says comp.mail.pine and I'm in business. The reason that I use `-Ii,;,a,a,d' is because I want everything to automatically be marked deleted. Then when I'm done I just quit that window and none of those messages show up again. If there's a message that I want to hang around I type `U' to undelete it. The main drawback to using pine for reading news is that if the news group has a LOT of unread message, it can take forever to open and sort it. But for groups that I read daily, and thus don't have too many unread messages, it opens reasonably quickly. You might be wondering why I don't use another news reader, like Agent or NX or Netscape, and one of the main reasons is that I want to be able to continue to save news messages in the same folders that I save mail messages and I want these folders to be ascii so I can open them in text editors, use grep on them, etc. I have a question for you all: Does anyone know how to get the titlebar of each Pine window to say what folder or news group it has opened? It's not uncommon for me to have 5 (or more!) pine windows going and when I drag my cursor along the task bar they all pop up the same message, i.e., `PC-Pine' -- I'd love it if it would pop up `comp.mail.pine' or whatever folder is open. Thanks, Nancy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:57:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA15503 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14010 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:50:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14006 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:50:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtS7B-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 21:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mike Eggleston" Subject: Q: does pine support pop3? Date: 6 Feb 1997 14:56:28 GMT Message-ID: <01bc143d$8edb0450$ef7eabc7@pcmis14> I'd like to have my pine users getting their mail from a central mail hub. Does pine support pop3 and is this feasible? TIA Mike -- The opinions expressed are of the poster and do not reflect the opinions of Walker Financial Corp. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:03:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA16485 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA14323 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:51:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA14319 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:51:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtU0Z-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:09:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32F4C265.29CC@cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, I wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: > > > My mailcap file has the entry: > > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput > > Thanks. I'll try that and see how it works! I tried that, but it didn't work very well. First of all, when I tried to view a HTML document, nothing happened (except that I got tons of files in /tmp), and second of all, when I tried to start lynx from the command line, it spawned of hundreds of sessions, and the only way to stop it was to remove the .mailcap entry. Still open for suggestions, though. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:49:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA08498 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA15940 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:41:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA15936 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:41:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtUjR-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 00:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: humpback@cygnus.ci.uc.pt Subject: Pine and Local News Spooling Date: 6 Feb 1997 13:21:15 GMT Message-ID: <5dclsb$qfs@morgana.mat.uc.pt> Hi: I use pine 3.93 in linux 2.0.21 (slackware 96) and i have instaled pnews and suck, with these two programs i can build a local news spool, i have managed to read and post news using tin in local mode (no -r option). But i seem to be unaible to read news with pine... I think i have tried anything... Please help.. Gustavo A.S.R. Felisberto AKA Humpback humpback@thepentagon.com / EU at IRC http://www.ci.uc.pt/~humpback "They are not men, walking in the streets below" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:03:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA17101 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16769 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:58:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA16765 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:58:09 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 10:58:02 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA00418; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:03:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:03:48 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sten Westerback cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unread mails even if i have none? In-Reply-To: <5da6o2$oij@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Sten Westerback wrote: >I'm just a every now and then pine user having one problem. >For some reason the logon check claims that i have unread >mails even if i don't have any. > >How can i make it check the mailbox? type: ls /var/spool/mail/ *if* that's where your mailfolder is. If it isn't, try typing: mail (which can be left by typing "q" >;->). Maybe some filtering program is running of which pine hasn't been "made aware" (i.e. whose folders it cannot find at the moment). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:25:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA18489 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA15931 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:21:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA15927 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:21:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtWLB-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 02:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Machado Subject: Sending mail in pine for Win95 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:38:44 -0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Isn't there a way to use pine for Win95 just to send mails? I try to send a message, and it says: [Can't send message without an open remote folder] I don't have access to a IMAP server. I tried to put {pine.cac.washington.edu:144/anonymous}#news.updates.pine395 as my inbox path. The folder opens ok, but the message still come up. If pine for Win95 can't really work, do you know another MUA that supports customized header (like "Approved:"). TIA, Roberto From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA18578 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA16286 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA16282 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA09722 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:08 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199702091100.DAA09722@shivax.cac.washington.edu> From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE This message is being sent to pine-info@cac.washington.edu weekly to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:26:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17271 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18531 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:22:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18527 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:22:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtYAJ-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 04:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Duc Le" Subject: Re: A query about PINE Date: 9 Feb 1997 10:20:56 GMT Message-ID: <01bc1673$6cdcefc0$05de56ce@vol.vip.best.com> References: SMG Group NIC wrote in article ... ....[snip] > I have a small doubt. I saved a message(e-mail) in a folder. > I want to save it as a text file. Please give me the solution > thru e-mail. > Thanking you. > Bala Sundaram Choose option "E" to export that message. You then have to specify the name and directory to save that file. It will be saved as text file. Good luck, Duc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19885 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18760 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18746 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 13:44:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00692; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:06:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:06:08 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: SMG Group NIC cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A query about PINE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, SMG Group NIC wrote: >I have a small doubt. I saved a message(e-mail) in a folder. >I want to save it as a text file. Please give me the solution >thru e-mail. Try E(xport) instead of S(ave). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19884 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18750 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18744 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:45 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 13:44:35 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00312; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:28 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Mike Eggleston cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: does pine support pop3? In-Reply-To: <01bc143d$8edb0450$ef7eabc7@pcmis14> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Feb 1997, Mike Eggleston wrote: >I'd like to have my pine users getting their mail from a central mail hub. >Does pine support pop3 Yes. From .pinerc: # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] #incoming-folders={ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de/pop3}inbox And from pine's q&a: Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as popclient can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. One location from which popclient can be obtained is: ftp://ftp.mal.com/pub/pop/ Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html > and is this feasible? Dunno. ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19929 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18764 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18757 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:49 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 13:44:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00642; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:54:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:54:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Peter Karlsson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: >On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, I wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: >> >> > My mailcap file has the entry: >> > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput >> Thanks. I'll try that and see how it works! >I tried that, but it didn't work very well. First of all, when I tried to >view a HTML document, nothing happened (except that I got tons of files in >/tmp), and second of all, when I tried to start lynx from the command >line, it spawned of hundreds of sessions, and the only way to stop it was >to remove the .mailcap entry. > >Still open for suggestions, though. Fine;-) # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path=/etc/mailcap ^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path=/etc/mailcap ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Make sure those are correct, otherwise... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:07:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA04133 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA19545 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:02:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA19541 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:02:32 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 15:02:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00688; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:47:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:47:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Peter Karlsson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: > >On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, I wrote: > >> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: Don't we all love follow-ups by the very same person? Sorry for that, but I toyed around a bit more and found something else... > >> > My mailcap file has the entry: > >> > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ At least "copiousoutput" *might* suck: needsterminal If this flag is given, the named interpreter needs to interact with the user on a terminal. In some environments (e.g. a window-oriented mail reader under X11) this will require the creation of a new terminal emulation window, while in most environments it will not. If the mailcap entry specifies "needsterminal" and metamail is not running on a terminal (as determined by isatty(3), the -x option, and the MM_NOTTTY environment variable) then metamail will try to run the command in a new terminal emulation window. Currently, metamail knows how to create new windows under the X11, SunTools, and WM window systems. copiousoutput This flag should be given whenever the interpreter is capable of producing more than a few lines of output on stdout, and does no interaction with the uer. If the mailcap entry specifies copiousoutput, and pagination has been requested via the "-p" command, then the output of the command being executed will be piped through a pagination program ("more" by default, but this can be overridden with the METAMAIL_PAGER environment variable). Now, copiousoutput seems unneccessary with lynx. So I dropped it and ended up with this entry: # In the samples given test=test -n "$DISPLAY" is used to determine if # the current session is X capible by checking for the existance of a # DISPLAY environment variable. # # any system (VMS included) without the DISPLAY environment variable # will be assumed to be Non-X [..] # A common problem with the mailcap mechanism is getting differential # behavior from different programs. This problem is compounded by the fact # that some programs, notably Mosaic, do not implement the "test" clause in # mailcap files. If you are using Lynx and X Mosaic together you should # place all X-centric entries before non-X entries. X Mosaic will use # whichever entry is defined first so further entries will be ignored. # # Lynx exports the environment variable LYNX_VERSION, so if you wish to test # if Lynx is running or not you can use 'test -n "LYNX_VERSION"' test=test -z "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION"; needsterminal text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal; The following is, of course, from my .pinerc (I forgot to mention that, but you sure knew...). ># Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. ># NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under >DOS/Windows/OS2. >mailcap-search-path=/etc/mailcap > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ># Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. ># NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under >DOS/Windows/OS2. >mimetype-search-path=/etc/mailcap > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA21176 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA18840 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:45:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA18836 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:45:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtaUr-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 06:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlerner@panix.com (Joshua Lerner) Subject: reloading INBOX Date: 6 Feb 1997 23:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Hello, Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without actually having to quit and restart pine. Thanks, Joshua Lerner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:05:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23335 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA22414 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 09:59:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA22409 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 09:59:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id LAA11236; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:59:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:59:16 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: Joshua Lerner cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joshua: Very simple to do. Mark your messages for deletion by pressing the "D" key. When you are ready to delete them, press "X". This expunges them from the folder you are currently in, and refreshes the list. The aggregate command set is another good tool to use in conjunction with this. In the Pine configuration screen (from main menu press "S" and "C"), press the "?" when you have "enable-aggregate-command-set" highlighted. It will explain how this feature works. Hope this helps! ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the > currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm > looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without > actually having to quit and restart pine. > > Thanks, > > Joshua Lerner > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:36:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23672 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22786 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA22782 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:31:19 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 19:31:11 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA01697; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:46:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:46:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Joshua Lerner cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: >Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the *argl* Netscape? >currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm >looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without >actually having to quit and restart pine. The command you're looking for is call X(punge). Be careful, though, when using it on u*ix machines, because it's almost impossible to "undelete" expunged messages. A combination of the following is a nice way to wreak havoc on your inbox, so make sure you *know* what you're doing. [X] enable-aggregate-command-set [X] expunge-without-confirm Further help is available within pine's S(etup) C(config) (where you can set these values), and the information available at: http://www.washington.edu/pine Make sure to read that, too. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:33:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA24062 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA22179 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:27:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA22163 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:27:40 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm4-adr65.interl.net [205.244.161.65]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA30054; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:22:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA01093; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:27:01 -0600 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:27:00 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander To: Joshua Lerner cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: > Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the > currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm > looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without > actually having to quit and restart pine. Hit x when you're looking at the index of messages in that folder. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMv4k+SGB07hAGnFhAQFZZAP/QMq2Ct9O0rNJbYOmBpR1gE9dIdVpNxBf b82PKOj34q3T/paPGK6b67UfNvGBy17pvnCh0f74xUTm5PHdjyEVl252Kq5mFH6C O8fII3PlNmeeAxyctJOpGZixVgMwrOQZsphJJjP0qwbDumzBKoqv8cUw4x2IcwKJ z0qmrcjF6/o= =1boZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net, @hotmail.com Home Page : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25445 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA23304 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:56:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA23300 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:56:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtgER-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 12:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: news followup when followup-to: poster ? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:46:12 GMT When attempting to post a followup to an article where the poster has specified Followup-to: poster, PINE (the version I'm using says it's 3.95a) automatically creates an email reply, without giving the opportunity to post to the newsgroup (as well or instead). Is there a way to intervene in this? One doesn't always want to limit further discussion to private email, even if the original poster wanted it so. I tried the related help, but it didn't seem to throw light on this question. -- "Come friendly Cancels, and fall on Spam" - as Betjeman didn't say From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:46:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25218 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA25208 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iaw.on.ca (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA25204 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:02 -0800 Received: from rickb.iaw.on.ca by iaw.on.ca with smtp (Smail3.2 #4) id m0vth2p-001gGdC; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:44:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:43:16 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Byers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Hangs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi There, I use pine quite a bit, but I've been having a problem lately where it hangs when doing network activity. For example, usually when posting a message. I expect the server that impad is running on is under heavy load, but isn't there any timeout? It's very frustrating writing a long message and then having to kill pine because it's just sitting there. I once left pine running all night to see if it would eventually time out - nope - still said "Busy" and was "spinning" in the morning... Also, are there any places with user patches/upgrades for pine? I've written a small one that just adds a couple of features and changes the default behaviour of pine, but I've got a lot more I'd like to do. I figured I better check to see if someone allready did something like it... Thanks, Rick ========================================================================= Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide rickb@iaw.on.ca System Admin, Tech Support Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400 http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:03:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA27566 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA27707 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:57:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA27703 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:57:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtjzN-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 16:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Justin Eichenlaub Subject: GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 19:36:19 -0500 Message-ID: <32FBCA83.8A6@velocity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7D7733357AC2" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7D7733357AC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ladies and Gentlemen: ***THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT TELLS HOW YOU CAN HELP MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS*** IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE REPRESENTING YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES RIGHTS IN WASHINGTON, THEN THIS MESSAGE IS FOR YOU! My name is Justin Eichenlaub and I am working to start to mobilize and on-line movement to encourage the Congress of the United States of America to pass "true" campaign finance reform. For those of you who have never heard of this issue before, it mainly deals with changing laws so that there is a limit on the amount of money that can be given to political campaigns and the amount of money that can be spent. For more information log onto my web sight at: http://www.angelfire.com/pa/financereform I am not asking you to become a major player in this effort where a lot of work and time will be expected, in fact the requirement to be a part of this revolution in American politics is very infantile. The minimum that we are asking you to do to support our cause is to send at least one letter to your congressional representative and senators, and encourage anyone you know on the Internet or at home, on the job, or in school to do the same. If you prefer this letter can be personally written by you as long as you feel that you have read up on the issue and are well-informed enough to make certain statements and have the knowledge to back them up. I you are not too sure, or just don't feel that you have the time but would still like to partake, then a type of form letter will be supplied to you to print out and merely plug in your address and name into the letter. This relatively easy and great way to spread our concerns will work only if you agree to give up a small amount of your time to take part in the free democracy that many men and women have died to retain for our country. If you are interested, simply send this e-mail back to me and we will be in contact with you. My e-mail is JUTMAN@VELOCITY.NET Thank you very much for your time, and I hope that you seriously consider the benefits of your participation. 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-0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26837 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:37:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26833 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:37:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtkdI-00038pC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 17:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: 6 Feb 1997 14:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: <5ddcit$4kp@saltmine.radix.net> You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus Database/Spreadsheet/Tabbed-ASCII/Compuserve,Spry Mail Microsoft Internet Mail all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm also cc:Mail to all of above. This is a free service. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Technical Web Service, Perl/CGI, E-mail address conversion service 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:32:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27577 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA29729 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA29725 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:27:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtmJl-000391C; Sun, 9 Feb 97 19:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Matt Miller - ComPath Inc." Subject: test: Please disregard Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:02:34 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Miller ComPath, Inc Office: (703) 207-0500 3007 Williams Dr. Fax: (703) 206-9616 Fairfax, VA 22031 Email: matt.miller@compath.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:46:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA31248 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA29191 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:42:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA29187 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:42:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtnXi-000390C; Sun, 9 Feb 97 20:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aphillips@sunbelt.net (Andrew A. Phillips) Subject: cmsg cancel <32fa354a.0@204.71.8.22> Control: cancel <32fa354a.0@204.71.8.22> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 01:50:20 GMT Message-ID: Message <32fa354a.0@204.71.8.22> was cancelled by fifi@toby.han.de. Reason: Spam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:06:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA01247 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA01829 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:02:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA01825 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:02:16 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA18417; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:11 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Multiple pine windows Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi all, I have the following question : Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message=20 "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without quit Pine. TIA JEAN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Jean Schuller _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ =20 _/ _/_/_/-/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ =20 local call: 0388106630 Institut de Recherches Subatomiques foreign call: (33)388106630 Bo=EEte Postale 28=20 local fax : 0388106234 23, Rue du Loess foreign fax : (33)388106234 F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:49:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA01691 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA03806 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA03802 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:44:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtrGb-000390C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 00:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jaime Pina Subject: Headers List Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:22:07 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does not display the header "TO:"? Thanks in advance. Jaime Pina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Once you have flown you will walk the Earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return." ---DaVinci From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:39:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA22853 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02938 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:31:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from commserv.sorosis.ro (commserv.sorosis.ro [193.226.30.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02934 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:31:07 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by commserv.sorosis.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id JAA13526 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:30:09 GMT Received: (from crys@localhost) by lisv.sorosis.ro (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA15776; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:04:56 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:04:52 +0200 (EET) From: Tudor TARANU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine 3.9 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes,i use the program pine 3.9 I need more information{in french} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:49:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA01601 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04498 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:41:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04494 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:41:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:38:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA23392; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:40:43 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:40:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out; save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc). You do this by first making sure you have some additional commands available to you... 1. Start Pine and go to the Setup Configuration screen. 2. Look for the "enable-aggregate-command-set" variable, and make sure it is selected (has an "X" next to it). 3. Exit the Setup Configuration screen, saving any changes you made. Now go to the Index screen of the folder containing the messages you want to select and work on. Once there... 4. Use the now-available Select (;) command to pick the messages you want to work on. After typing the ";" command check the menu at the bottom of the screen for the various ways of picking messages. If you just have a couple use "C" (or Return) to pick the current message. 5. Selected messages are shown either in bold or with an "X" at the beginning of their line (depending on settings in your Setup Configuration screen). Now you need to operate on your selected messages... 6. Use the Apply (A) command to indicate you want to operate on all the selected messages (instead of just the current one). Having given the Apply command check the command menu at the bottom of the screen to see what commands are available. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net wrote: > > Hello good people at Pine: > > Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report. What I wanted to know was, how > can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into > one message in order to forward them onward? > > Yours, > Don From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:19:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02698 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03405 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03399 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:47 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:22 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: jpina@shrike.depaul.edu Subject: Re: Headers List Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fef40f2172002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:24 +0800 > > I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I > read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" > with > all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does > not display the header "TO:"? The problem is that you can tell pine not to display the To: line on a per message basis. So, you could turn of the To: like but it would be off for all messages. I don't know if you'd want that behaviour. Maybe you could convince the sender to fix their way of sending so that the Loooonnnnnnnggggg To: doesn't come out that way? Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:20:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02714 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03409 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03402 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:51 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:27 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:28 +0800 > > > Hi all, > > I have the following question : > > Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then > I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message > "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. > Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in > Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without > quit Pine. Nope, there is no way to currently reconnect Window#1. The best thing you can do is quit Window #1 and proceed in Window #2. Actually, the best thing you can do is not to try starting a second pine unless you tell it a specific folder (not INBOX) to start in. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:24:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20025 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04855 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:16:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04851 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:16:50 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:14:20 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA04086; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:16:28 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:16:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jaime Pina cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Headers List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" A better solution (one that will help everyone who receives the message, not just yourself) is to ask the people who send out the message to distibute it by listing the recipients' e-mail addresses in the "Bcc:" field rather than the "To:" field. This will hide the list of recipients in each delivered copy of the message. Note that it is highly advisable to include at least one valid e-mail address in the "To:" field when using using "Bcc:". Otherwise some mail delivery programs continue to list all the recipients as a series of "Apparently-to:" headers. (Sigh.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Jaime Pina wrote: > > I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I > read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with > all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does > not display the header "TO:"? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jaime Pina > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Once you have flown you will walk the Earth with your eyes turned > skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return." > ---DaVinci > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:31:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02804 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04940 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04934 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:23:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:18:49 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) for id KAA05754; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:20:57 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:20:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To mark all messages as havine been read: ; A A * ! N (Select All Apply Flag Not New) Note that for this to work you need the "enable-aggregate-command-set" variable set (to give you the Select command) and also the "enable-flag-cmd" variable (to give you the Flag (*) command). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Lennard Kong wrote: > > > Is there a way to mark all messages read or mark them to > > delete with one key stroke ? > > You can do it four keystrokes (at least for deletion). Go into > your personal configuration and enable-aggregate-command-set. Read > the online help about using aggregate commands. Then, from an index > listing, to mark all message for deletion, enter the four keystrokes > > ; A A D > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:51:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA23301 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03763 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:43:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03759 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:43:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:38:55 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA12174; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:03 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Rick Byers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts for the discrepancy. For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" alarm and things work just fine. Gut feeling is that there is some sort of "negative interaction" going on between the once-a-second alarm timer responsible for spinning the busy cursor and the networking code. I've reported the problem to the Pine Team, but given it only appears to happen on _some_ of our IRIX systems and no-one else seems to have mentioned it (until now?) it's difficult to do anything about. Give it a try and see if it works for you or not. (And perhaps report the results of your test here?) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Rick Byers wrote: > Hi There, > I use pine quite a bit, but I've been having a problem lately where it > hangs when doing network activity. For example, usually when posting a > message. I expect the server that impad is running on is under heavy > load, but isn't there any timeout? It's very frustrating writing a long > message and then having to kill pine because it's just sitting there. I > once left pine running all night to see if it would eventually time out - > nope - still said "Busy" and was "spinning" in the morning... > > Also, are there any places with user patches/upgrades for pine? I've > written a small one that just adds a couple of features and changes the > default behaviour of pine, but I've got a lot more I'd like to do. I > figured I better check to see if someone allready did something like it... > > Thanks, > Rick > > ========================================================================= > Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide > rickb@iaw.on.ca System Admin, Tech Support > Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400 > http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:39:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA03496 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA05617 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA05613 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:31 -0800 From: littlemn@ix.netcom.com Received: from san-tx1-16.ix.netcom.com (san-tx1-16.ix.netcom.com [204.31.238.48]) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA18770 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:29 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com: Host san-tx1-16.ix.netcom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <199721052838241@ix.netcom.com> Subject: I need help with a binhex file X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.0, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I use a PC with win95, I have a pen pal that uses a mac. We tried to exchange photos this week end and are having problems with viewing the encoded files. could you please tell me how I de-code and view a benhex file on an ibm clone? My net server is Netcom, I can use Netscape or Microsoft exchange as the browser, neither has helped me decode the file. thanks for any help you can offer James Midgett, littlemn@ix.netcom.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:58:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA04815 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA07279 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:47:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA07275 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:47:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 10 Feb 97 14:47:26 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00470; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:58:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:58:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jaime Pina cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: Headers List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: >> I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I >> read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with >> all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does >> not display the header "TO:"? >A better solution (one that will help everyone who receives the message, >not just yourself) is to ask the people who send out the message to >distibute it by listing the recipients' e-mail addresses in the "Bcc:" >field rather than the "To:" field. >This will hide the list of recipients in each delivered copy of the >message. IMVHO, this problem is calling for a filtering program. The simplest solution would be to check the mail for a regexp containing the name of the list and strip the rest of the to: field. You might also cat it into the body of the message so that you can still see who the message was intended to got to, too. Check Nancy McGough's filtering FAQ at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ In this case, I'd strongly suggest using procmail >;->, but that's just my personal opinion. Apart from that: Why are you sending mails with more than one cc: / bcc: -- that's not what a "list" is for, is it? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:40:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA31550 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA06567 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:36:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA06563 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:36:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id IAA05370; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:35:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:35:38 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: littlemn@ix.netcom.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I need help with a binhex file In-Reply-To: <199721052838241@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One quick fix is this. The Eudora Light POP3 Mail client (freeware, I believe) will encode/decode MIME and BinHex. But I'd imagine that there must be other shareware or freeware based codecs around. A quick search in Yahoo or Excite should turn up something. Hope this helps! ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 littlemn@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I use a PC with win95, I have a pen pal that uses a mac. We tried to > exchange > photos this week end and are having problems with viewing the encoded files. > > could you please tell me how I de-code and view a benhex file on an ibm > clone? > > My net server is Netcom, I can use Netscape or Microsoft exchange as the > browser, neither has helped me decode the file. > > thanks for any help you can offer > > James Midgett, > littlemn@ix.netcom.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06049 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07002 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:07:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms (paaetms.paaet.edu.kw [196.1.70.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA06997 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:07:37 -0800 From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10459; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:11:03 -0300 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:11:02 -0300 (GMT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to > operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out; > save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc). Thanks for this informative reply. But, one thing I didn't get was how to save the messages seperately after they have been fowarded as one message. Regards From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06493 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07578 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA07574 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtxeS-000390C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: crzyloon@shore.net (CrazyLoon) Subject: Re: Problems with PINE in SCO 3.2.4.2 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 03:30:44 GMT Message-ID: <32f94fa8.956095@news.shore.net> References: <1.5.4.32.19970205194727.00676fc0@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> On 5 Feb 1997 08:48:28 -0800, cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co (SOLON CACERES MORENO) wrote: >thank you for help. > >The crypt library has been installed. Which one? I found one that works, and it isn't the one on SCO's website. > >The standard output received is: >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >make args are "CC=3Dcc " > I'm assuming the 3D= isn't actually there, are you using the cc that came with SCO's DEV kit, or are you using a renamed GCC? I had problems with SCO's cc, however PINE had no probelms with GCC 2.7.2. Of course, getting GCC 2.7.2 was a total pain, but so far it has been worth it. >Newly, Thank you very Much > > >SOLON CACERES MORENO (Colombia, South America) >Sol=F3n C=E1ceres Moreno >Coordinador de Sistemas de Informaci=F3n CDMB >e-mail: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co > > ----- CrazyLoon http://www.shore.net/~crzyloon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06752 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA08868 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA08864 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtxgR-000392C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atlka@cent01.oi.pg.gda.pl (Adam Tla/lka) Subject: Unicode in pine Date: 7 Feb 1997 16:35:08 GMT Message-ID: I think that we need version of pine which supports Unicode. I mean if we use terminal which displays Unicode translated glyphs in UTF8 for example then pine could use this kind of terminal and properly display multilingual mail. -- . . Adam Tla/lka mailto:atlka@pg.gda.pl ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ) System & Network Administration Group ~~~~~~ - Computer Center, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA07841 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA08150 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:07:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA08146 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:07:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vty6N-000392C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jacek Kopecky Subject: Re: H*E*L*P Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:36:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? > > Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, > and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! In the Main menu type '?', it will show you basic help. You can omit first couple pages, I think. Jacek Kopecky E-mail: jacek.kopecky@upol.cz WWW: http://www.upol.cz/~kopeckyj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:44:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA09382 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA10256 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:39:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us [204.91.160.98]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA10251 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:39:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (rcummins@localhost) by burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA06064 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:39:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:39:26 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Cummins To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: H*E*L*P Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? > > Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, > and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! You might try http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/. Also, there is a home-brewed Pine tutorial at http://www.burlco.lib.nj.us/tutorial/pinemail.html. It's been slightly customized for use here at the library, but 99% of it is still useful. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:01:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA10373 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09420 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:56:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA09416 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:56:28 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 10 Feb 97 17:56:20 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA00519; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:03:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:03:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: littlemn@ix.netcom.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I need help with a binhex file In-Reply-To: <199721052838241@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 littlemn@ix.netcom.com wrote: >I use a PC with win95, I have a pen pal that uses a mac. We tried to >exchange photos this week end and are having problems with viewing the >encoded files. >could you please tell me how I de-code and view a benhex file on an ibm >clone? There are two Mac utilities called binhex and hexbin available on the internet. Those are for LinuX, so you should be able to run them on your system as soon as you've installed LinuX on your system (which is a good idea, anyway, because a PC is a terrible thing to waste... >;-> ). I do suspect, though, that a similar util is available for Dos95, too, so check www.yahoo.com (for example). Viewing the files is a different matter. There's viewing software galore again at yahoo. You might run into trouble if your friend has used some fancy Mac format for the files, too. Apart from that, don't you two have access to an ftp-server? Cause that's where those files belong, actually (correct me if I'm wrong, pls). >My net server is Netcom, I can use Netscape or Microsoft exchange as the >browser, neither has helped me decode the file. If at all, your mailer should be able to handle those. SM-exchange and Netscape are no mailers, I think - or are they? ;-> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07826 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09507 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:59:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA09503 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:59:09 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:56:32 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id QAA16078; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:58:39 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:58:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Whoa... are you trying to do two different things in one go? If you want to include two or more messages in a reply/forwarded message then the "Select messages, Apply a Reply or Forward" to them is just what you want. However replying/forwarding is simply you sending a message to someone; it doesn't save anything anywhere (unless, of course, you have set Fcc: to file a copy somewhere, in which case (as usual) an exact copy of the message you sent gets stored). If you want to save the messages (as separate items) to another folder then you still use the "Select messages, Apply..." trick, but in this case you Apply a "Save" (S) command to them. Whilst Applying a Forward or Reply joins the selected message into one (you can only be actively composing one message at a time, which is why this happens) Applying a Save keeps the messages as separate items as they are moved into the destination folder. So to save messages to a different folder: ; ...Select the messages A S foldername ...Apply a Save command to put them into a specified folder Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to > > operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out; > > save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc). > > Thanks for this informative reply. But, one thing I didn't get was how > to save the messages seperately after they have been fowarded as one message. > > Regards > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:59:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11962 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA11195 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:56:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11191 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA292557345; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) > From: Mike Brudenell > To: Rick Byers > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our > SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different > patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts > for the discrepancy. I see it on our HP system as well as on a Solaris box, but only when I run Pine3.95 not when I run Pine3.91, which I still preserve. > For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the > systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" > alarm and things work just fine. I can't find "disable-busy-alarm" in my Pine configurations; How do you set it? Thanks, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:33:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA07988 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13002 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA12998 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:26:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu0Ho-000390C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 10:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Naor Mark Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:35:54 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Hi Jean, I had the same problem (actually I kept forgetting that I left pine with Ctrl-Z ;) but couldn't find any good solution. The final trick to solve this irritating problem was that instead of starting pine, I start a small and primitive script that does the job for me. ------Begin of script spine ----- #! /bin/sh # exec pine only if not already running or a lock file exists if [ ! -e "" ]; then =09exec pine "-d0 -z -I l" $@ exit 5 # else =09echo 'Another Pine Session already running ... exiting' fi ----End of script ----- Now, the idea is to identify the lock file usually at /tmp/ just look around when you're in Pine and it won't take too long before you'll know which one is yours.=20 Then "brutally" put the full path of the file into the script, "et voila" it won't come up if you're already open once. I'm not a Unix Guru, so I guess it can be done better, but since it works..... :) All the Best, Naor On 10 Feb 1997, Jean Schuller wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I have the following question : >=20 > Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then > I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message=20 > "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. > Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in > Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without > quit Pine. >=20 > TIA >=20 > JEAN >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > Jean Schuller _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ =20 > _/ _/_/_/-/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ =20 > local call: 0388106630 Institut de Recherches Subatomiques > foreign call: (33)388106630 Bo=EEte Postale 28=20 > local fax : 0388106234 23, Rue du Loess > foreign fax : (33)388106234 F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- >=20 >=20 >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:26:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA16398 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13533 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA13529 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:21:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu17M-000394C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 11:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Risner Subject: Re: Supress the To: list Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:51:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32ED72D5.1536@toy.mem.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ED72D5.1536@toy.mem.ti.com> On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, M. Wick wrote: > Does anyone know how to supress the To: list in pine but still send > the mail out? > > From: aaa@bbb.com > To: (list supressed (Not Listed)) > Subject: Something > > Message. Put the list name in the Lcc field. --- David G. Risner -- Network Systems Administrator Southwestern University School of Law, Los Angeles, CA Business: drisner@swlaw.edu Personal: drisner@mci2000.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:55:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA17996 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15744 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:49:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from louise.stat.washington.edu (louise.stat.washington.edu [128.95.17.141]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA15740 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:49:25 -0800 From: bensmail@stat.washington.edu Received: by louise.stat.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.26 ) id AA16875; Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:49:24 PST Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:49:24 PST Message-Id: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: binhex Hi , I need your help to read a received binhex file I am working on unix machines Thanks Halima From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:08:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19196 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17058 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17054 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:02:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu2kv-000395C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: VMS Pine? In-Reply-To: <32ea6d01.69552735@News.TIAC.NET> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: <32ea6d01.69552735@News.TIAC.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:57:43 GMT On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Bob Coe wrote: > I've been told that there's a version of Pine that runs on a VAX under > VMS. There are some commercially supported ports; but for a free version, see Andy Harper's developments at ftp2.kcl.ac.uk in directory ZIP (use a conventional FTP client for this, and id anonymous). For some background you might start with my own notes at http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html There's a new version (3.91 beta 11) just out - I haven't tried it yet but it sounds real good. -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19216 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17150 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:04:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iaw.on.ca (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17143 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:04:35 -0800 Received: from rickb.iaw.on.ca by iaw.on.ca with smtp (Smail3.2 #4) id m0vu2wc-001gK7C; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:07:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:05:44 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Byers To: "Joe R. Jah" cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joe, Just add "disable-busy-alarm" to your feature list (/local/lib/pine.conf, or ~/.pinerc should work too). I've turned it off, and so far it's working great (thanks Mike!). It really didn't help much anyway... Rick On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) > > From: Mike Brudenell > > To: Rick Byers > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > > > Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our > > SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different > > patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts > > for the discrepancy. > > I see it on our HP system as well as on a Solaris box, but only when I run > Pine3.95 not when I run Pine3.91, which I still preserve. > > > For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the > > systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" > > alarm and things work just fine. > > I can't find "disable-busy-alarm" in my Pine configurations; How do you > set it? > > Thanks, > > Joe > > _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o > _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O > _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us > ========================================================================= Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide rickb@iaw.on.ca System Admin, Tech Support Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400 http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:27:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19590 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16520 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA16511 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:21:22 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA246999653; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:20:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Rick Byers Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Rick Byers wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:05:44 -0500 (EST) > From: Rick Byers > To: "Joe R. Jah" > Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > Joe, > > Just add "disable-busy-alarm" to your feature list (/local/lib/pine.conf, > or ~/.pinerc should work too). I've turned it off, and so far it's > working great (thanks Mike!). It really didn't help much anyway... I added it on a line by itself, but it didn't make a difference. Thank you for the reply anyway, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:32:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19664 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17715 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17711 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:56 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA08341; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Jean Schuller cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Jean Schuller wrote: > Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then > I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message > "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. > Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in > Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without > quit Pine. Jean, We don't happen to use Berkeley folder format anymore (and this locking behavior is a function of the driver for that format), so I can't test this, but I *thought* you could go to the folder list and select INBOX and re-open... then again, maybe that only works if it was closed due to an access error. Note also that you can start the second session with the -o flag so that it won't disturb the first session. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17000 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17905 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17901 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu3H7-000396C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Headers List Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:59:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Jaime Pina wrote: > I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I > read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with > all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does > not display the header "TO:"? Quite seriously, the best thing you can do is instruct whoever is sending you this monster how to do it right in the first place, so that you don't have the problem. With a list of addressees this long, the sender should not put everydody's address in To:. Teach the sender how to use Bcc:, which should be available with most mail agents, Pine and otherwise. In such a case, the sender should not leave To: completely blank: there are a couple of tricks to use, depending on the sender's mail agent. (Late versions of Pine and possibly other mail agents also have an Lcc: option which can be used.) I am serious -- this should not be your problem. The sender should change his/her ways. After all, if you disable seeing To: for this, you will probably disable seeing it for all messages, which you may not want. The real problem is on the other end with a sender who does not know how to do things properly. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA20065 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16827 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA16823 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu3H7-000397C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steve Kreis" Subject: PC Pine and News Date: 8 Feb 1997 21:31:57 GMT Message-ID: <01bc1608$718ac300$269dc2d0@stevekre> I just started a new job where I have a dedicated ISDN line to access the Internet. Unfortunately, we do not have a news feed from our ISP. But, the ISP I use from home does. It was suggested that I use PC Pine to access my NNTP server from work. So, I located, downloaded and installed PC Pine on my machine at work (BTW, the PC Pine .ZIP file from TUCOWS would not unpack itself). After a few minutes of fiddling I got the mail portion of PC Pine to work correctly. I can send and receive mail without a problm. But, no news. I downloaded my newsrc from my home account and put it in the same dir as PC Pine and entered the path in the pinerc but no go. Any ideas regarding what I have to do to get PC Pine to retrieve news? ------ Dr. Steven Kreis The Wade Edwards Learning Lab stevek@pagesz.net Raleigh, NC http://www.pagesz.net/~stevek skreis@wade.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:39:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA20048 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16819 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA16810 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu3H2-000395C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: outgoing mail to different folders Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5dbr65$no7@nuscc.nus.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dbr65$no7@nuscc.nus.sg> On 6 Feb 1997, Helmer Aslaksen wrote: > I've recently switched from elm to pine. In elm, outgoing mail to x > would be put in the folder Mail/x if it existed. Can I do that in > pine? Thanks in advance. You can do something in Pine which may accomplish the same purpose. In the addressbook, when you set up an alias (or nickname) for someone, you can specify Fcc for that recipient. You can use any legal folder name that does not conflict with some already existing folder -- unless you deliberately want to store outgoing mail from more than one person in the same folder. Then, when you want to send mail to someone, use the nickname on the To: line of the headers, and Pine will automatically save that message in the particular folder you specified in the addressbook for that person. (If you wish, you may change it at the last minute for any single message.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:18:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA21169 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA17957 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:13:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA17952 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:13:04 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 10 Feb 97 23:12:56 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA02460; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:27:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:27:42 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: bensmail@stat.washington.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: binhex In-Reply-To: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 bensmail@stat.washington.edu wrote: >I need your help to read a received binhex file. >I am working on unix machines Which is good, because there are Macutils available for that. Check www.yahoo.com for binhex and hexbin. That should be all you need. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:47:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA20285 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA19756 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA19752 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu4Iq-000394C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 14:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: binhex Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:20:49 GMT Message-ID: References: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> bensmail@stat.washington.edu (bensmail@stat.washington.edu): > I need your help to read a received binhex file > I am working on unix machines BinHex usually is for Macintosh files. Unless it contains just data (text) you should transfer it to a Mac on drop it onto StuffItExpander (currently at version 4.0.2). But you can convert BinHex with mcvert - see page http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/SGIfreeware/mcvert.html Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:36:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA23292 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA20149 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:32:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA20145 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:32:27 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 11 Feb 97 00:32:20 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA00410; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:30:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 00:30:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sven Guckes cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: binhex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Feb 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >bensmail@stat.washington.edu (bensmail@stat.washington.edu): >> I need your help to read a received binhex file >> I am working on unix machines > >BinHex usually is for Macintosh files. >Unless it contains just data (text) you should transfer it to a Mac >on drop it onto StuffItExpander (currently at version 4.0.2). You could get yourself Executor, the infamous Mac-Emulator... That one has StuffItExpander built in... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:25:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA25119 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:25:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA21441 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:21:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA21435 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:20:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu5s7-000398C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 16:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Aronson Subject: Pine 3.93 hangs in justify Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:28:15 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When replying to a message, and killing quoted text, sometimes I accidentally hit ^J (Justify) instead of ^K (Kill). They are, after all, right next to each other. B-( Under some mailreaders, no big deal, I wind up with a sloppy-looking mess... but under Pine, it seems to go into an infinite loop, tacking on more and more lines with nothing but the quote marker (the other guy's userid plus a bracket), and not stopping until it runs out of room! Usually I first get sick of it and "kill -9" it from another window! Other than typing more carefully, upgrading (which, not being the sysadmin, I don't think I am authorized to do), using an alternate editor (I hate vi with a passion and xemacs takes forever to load), or using an alternate mailreader (Netscape hangs on the way into news and elm threw several hissyfits before I gave up), is there anything I can do to avoid this? (On a related note, is there some way to get it to take just the first LETTER of the userid, or maybe of each dot-separated word, or maybe the first letter of each word in the "real name or stupid comment" part, rather than the whole darn userid? I didn't see anything relevant in the setup-config screens, but maybe I missed something....) -Dave Aronson, Sysop of Air 'n Sun BBS at (703) 765-0822 I WILL READ UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL EMAIL (UCE) FOR $1000 EACH. I MAY CONTACT ITS SENDER WHENEVER, HOWEVER, AND AS OFTEN AS I PLEASE. SENDING ME UCE CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS. GIVE A DAMN, DON'T SPAM! (The opinions expressed above are not necessarily those of Template Software, Mensa, the United States Government, or God.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:32:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA25493 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:32:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA21620 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:28:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from turbo.kean.edu (TURBO.Kean.EDU [131.125.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA21608 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:28:16 -0800 Received: by turbo.kean.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/08Feb95-0139PM) id AA32233; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:34:43 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:34:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul E. Yahnig" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with quitting pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello.....A friend of mine is having a problem using pine.....when they go into their INBOX it does this.....and drops them to thier prompt.....I think that they are using VMS, I am using Digital Unix, and have no idea what this is doing.....any help would be much appreciated. %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=05, virtual address=7FEAFDF4, PC =000F5E1A, PSL=03C00000 Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. Signal arguments Stack contents %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=7FEB3400, PC =83765995, PSL=03C00004 Improperly handled condition, image exit forced. Signal arguments Stack contents Number = 00000005 8376598E Name = 0000000C 837658D2 00000000 FFFFFFFC 7FEB3400 7FEB020C 83765995 00000006 03C00004 7FEB0339 00000000 000009F8 00000000 00000000 Register dump R0 = 00000000 R1 = 8376580C R2 = 000000FC R3 = 7FEB32EC R4 = 00000000 R5 = 00000004 R6 = 7FEB33EC R7 = 7FEB326D R8 = 7FEB3400 R9 = 7FEB3214 R10= 7FEB32EC R11= 7FEB32A8 AP = 7FEB31CC FP = 7FEB318C SP = 7FEB3208 PC = 83765995 PSL= 03C00004 Thanks, Paul Yahnig _______________________________________________________________________________ Paul E. Yahnig pyahnig@turbo.kean.edu Kean College of New Jersey yahnig@luau.kean.edu Network Support http://www.kean.edu/~pyahnig "Off the keyboard, thru the router, past the hub, over the bridge, down the line, ....nothing but net!" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA26194 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA23052 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.Hawaii.Edu (relay1.Hawaii.Edu [128.171.3.53]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA23048 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:48:47 -0800 Received: from uhunix1.its.Hawaii.Edu ([128.171.44.6]) by relay1.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <587172(3)>; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:45:19 -1000 Received: from localhost by uhunix1.its.Hawaii.Edu with SMTP id <17268(2)>; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:48:32 -1000 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:48:27 -1000 From: Joelle Brooke Tanenbaum X-Sender: tanenbau@uhunix1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attachments In-Reply-To: <97Feb10.141833hwt.587159(9)@relay1.Hawaii.Edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >> From: Joelle Brooke Tanenbaum > >> X-Sender: tanenbau@uhunix1 > >> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > >> Subject: Re: Attachments.. > >> > >> Aloha from the big island of Hawaii. > >> I am wanting to learn how to use the attachments with the PINE proramme. > >> I have got no one to help here. I did check the info available but where > >> the local support is supposed to be it shows "No local support contacts." > >> I need a detailed word for word instruction guide please. I access the > >> programme via the University on my home computer too. It is a Packard > >> Bell Multi Media upgraded to a 8 RAM and has a 28.8 Fax Modem (US > >> Robotics). > >> We have only one phone line and I would like to be able to type up a > >> document in the MicroSoft Works word processing document section save it > >> to a disk in the proper way and then be able to "pull it up" at a later > >> more convenient time and "send it" on the PINE's e mail programme using > >> the attachments. Will you please assist me? > >> > >> This is what I currently do to "get into" the PINE programme and internet > >> from home. > >> > >> I type in a twelve step process: > >> > >> set modem=sport > >> set speed 57600 > >> cd kermit > >> kermit > >> (at this point it tells me initialization is complete) > >> set port com2 > >> set speed 57600 > >> dial 9747586 > >> (at this point I get a blue screen) > >> con unix2 > >> uhunix > >> (now I type in my login:tanenbau) > >> then my password which is my student number > >> and then I am in and I type in PINE and the main menu comes up. > >> > >> This is as far as I go other than to just send and receive e mails. > >> Will you be so kind as to help me? I have already asked at the university > >> on our side, no one knows how to use the attachments either. > >> If you would like to send me some printed material you have my physical > >> mailing address is: 74-5602 Alapa Street Suite 966 > >> Kailua-Kona, Hawaii 96740 > >> > >> Thank you for your time in this matter. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:28:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA29134 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:28:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA25404 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:21:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nassau.cc.odu.edu (nassau.cc.odu.edu [128.82.3.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA25400 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:21:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (jjt600z@localhost) by nassau.cc.odu.edu (8.7.6/8.6.4) with SMTP id WAA17561 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:25:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:25:18 -0500 (EST) From: JEFFREY JOHN TURVEREY X-Sender: jjt600z@nassau To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Address book... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I send to multiple addresses on one message? I can only see how to write to one address... is there a way to do it from the address book? Thank you. -- Jeff -jjt600z@mail.odu.edu -Gumby8@juno.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:38:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA30344 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA26641 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:27:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA26636 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:26:45 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id UAA03942; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:21:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:21:30 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: JEFFREY JOHN TURVEREY cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Address book... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can separate the addresses with commas. You can either use the full addresses, or the nicknames (if you've set them up in your Addressbook). If you frequently want to send mail to several addresses, you can create a Distribution List for them. Go to the Addressbook and type 'S' to create it...it will prompt you for the details. Greg batchman@liberty.com On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, JEFFREY JOHN TURVEREY wrote: > > How can I send to multiple addresses on one message? I can only see how to > write to one address... is there a way to do it from the address book? > Thank you. > > -- Jeff > -jjt600z@mail.odu.edu > -Gumby8@juno.com > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:09:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA30703 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:09:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA27731 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:52:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post3.inre.asu.edu (post3.inre.asu.edu [129.219.10.148]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA27727 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:52:20 -0800 Received: from smtp1.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #7723) id <01IF9L8BT6WW918TNO@asu.edu>; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:51:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from general5.asu.edu (general5.asu.edu [129.219.10.155]) by smtp1.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA09611; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:50:51 -0700 Received: from general5.asu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by general5.asu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA04989; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:50:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:50:49 -0700 (MST) From: Tracey Gaulrapp Subject: Re: black n white problem In-reply-to: <32f6785601c9006@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> X-Sender: tag9794@general5.asu.edu To: Ed Greshko Cc: dkrull@prairienet.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Tracey Gaulrapp Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ed, I don't know who you are, nor you me, and I am really glad I don't know you. All I did was ask for some assistance, not your snide remarks. I have my preferences and you have yours. You had no right lashing out at me, or telling me what kind of operating system I should be using. I hope you're not this unprofessional all the time. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ Tracey A. Gaulrapp Tracey@Asu.Edu Graphic Design Program Arizona State University On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > > In a previous article, tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp) says: > > > > > I truly need someone's help out there. Here is the problem. > > >I am using and have been using pine for a few years now. I recently > > >bought a new computer and my text and background are reversed in color. > > >When I sign into "general" to get to the pine menu everything is fine. > > >But when I type in menu or pine to get into the email my screen is > > black > > >and my text is white. This is disturbing to my eyes and I have no idea > > >how to fix it. It is so weird because when I firt dial in, all text is > > >black and the background is white the way it should be. > > >Please help me. > > > > > >Tracey A. Gaulrapp > > >Tracey@Asu.Edu > > >Graphic Design Program > > >Arizona State University > > > > NO, Tracey, YOU ARE WRONG. **NORMAL** TEXT **IS** WHITE TEXT ON BLACK > > BACKGROUND!!! THAT IS NORMAL FOR ALL COMPUTERS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. > > You must be using a god damn GUI -- probably Windows, right??? Ugh!!! > > It is the black on white shit that is "disturbing" -- it is VERY BAD > > on the eyes, causing eye strain. I can sit (and have) in front of a > > white on black background for hours with no problem whatsoever. Pine > > is SUPPOSED to be white on black background -- the NORMAL display for > > all computers. I cannot help you. Get rid of your damn GUI and start > > using DOS and/or Linux. GUIs are for little children and high school > > dropouts. > > Well, this is certainly not a question of right or wrong. And it > really isn't necessary to "SHOUT" at Tracey or belittle ones choice of using > DOS, Win95, or even OS/2. The fact that a certain screen format may cause > you eyestrain is not indicative of what it may do to another person. > > Anyway.... I suspect that the problem, undesireable shift in > display mode, may be caused by the a control charater being interpreted by > the terminal emulation program as a command to shift display mode. Without > more > information of what terminal emulation program is in use it will be hard to > determine the next course of action. If possible, I'd suggest trying a > different user's method of accessing the system and see if the problem > persists. > > Regards, > > > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:30:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA32250 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:30:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA29304 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:18:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hobbe.ub2.lu.se (hobbe.UB2.lu.se [130.235.32.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA29300; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:17:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (hakan@localhost) by hobbe.ub2.lu.se (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA02726; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:17:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: hobbe.ub2.lu.se: hakan owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:17:48 +0100 (MET) From: Hakan Ardo X-Sender: hakan@hobbe.ub2.lu.se Reply-To: Hakan Ardo To: Pine Developers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID 812OK): Message-ID: Linux-Version: Debian (http://www.debian.org) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-343801056-324449197-855645006=:2507" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---343801056-324449197-855645006=:2507 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, if I try to add the following header to my customized-hdrs, it will be splited up into several headers, and the resulting mails gets very messed up: X-Face: R;!k)O*@?2ak[7XB&6G=YljP?tdH5hcAG?N%AeX0.|$B)k^2$;@0>0I4PsuSO0cX[#~rN.fdOaNFc_sA)Qq"BA I think the problem is that the configfile uses the ,-sign as a separater and sinc my headder contains that sign it will be separated. The easy solution to this would be to introduce a characetr sequence that will be translated into ,-signs after the parsing of the config file. - --------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Hakan Ardo E-Mail: hakan@debian.org WWW: http://www.ub2.lu.se/~hakan/sig.html Public Key: Try "finger hakan@master.debian.org" Fingerprint: E9 81 FD 90 53 5C E9 3E 3D ED 57 15 1B 7E 29 F3 Interests: WWW, Programming, 3D graphics Thought for the day: As long as one understands, the spelling does not matter :-) - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMwAdIt6dx9igIm71AQEKVgP7BB8l7z9PDTXAA2Si0+9iUa5t08a+HA+b NS3a0og37UBse6QvpHObxOyYGyxX4ZvFhf7wzAKXel1cONvr3/bS07R//0vvlj9W TV/iSI4h5sxjAUpVtOKuq9HBTJNKl4B6L2jHF9bkG/KCpYAYha/I9jNNoQYCCBy/ uc+svU98zrQ= =zxy8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---343801056-324449197-855645006=:2507 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Tue Sep 17 20:10:47 EDT 1996 on host: dwarf ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = hakan, full = Hakan Ardo home = /home/hakan home_dir= /home/hakan hostname= hobbe.ub2.lu.se localdom= ub2.lu.se userdom= debian.org maildom= debian.org cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /home/hakan/inbox/inbox msgmap: tot=17, cur=17, del=3, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyp5, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Hakan Ardo user-id : hakan user-domain : debian.org nntp-server : news.lu.se inbox-path : /home/hakan/inbox/inbox incoming-folders : "debian" /home/hakan/inbox/debian : "lyx" /home/hakan/inbox/lyx : "Space" /home/hakan/inbox/Space : "Warp" /home/hakan/inbox/Warp : "AmigaE" /home/hakan/inbox/AmigaE : "CUSeeMe" /home/hakan/inbox/CUSeeMe : "IncErrs" /home/hakan/inbox/IncErrs : "MrList" /home/hakan/inbox/MrList : "Space" /home/hakan/inbox/Space : "libwwwPerl" /home/hakan/inbox/libwwwPerl : "tkPerl" /home/hakan/inbox/tkPerl : "WebCT" /home/hakan/inbox/WebCT folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{news.lu.se/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : include-text-in-reply : signature-at-bottom : enable-bounce-cmd : quit-without-confirm : enable-aggregate-command-set : expanded-view-of-folders : expunge-without-confirm : compose-cut-from-cursor : compose-send-offers-first-filter : reply-always-uses-reply-to : save-will-advance : enable-incoming-folders : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : news-read-in-newsrc-order : auto-zoom-after-select initial-keystroke-li : l customized-hdrs : Linux-Version: Debian (http://www.debian.org) saved-msg-name-rule : by-recipient fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : No printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.95 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 display-filters : _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /usr/lib/pinepgp/check _TMPFILE_ _RESULTFILE_ sending-filters : /usr/lib/pinepgp/auto _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ : /usr/lib/pinepgp/sign _TMPFILE_ : /usr/lib/pinepgp/crypt _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/hakan/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : debian.org inbox-path : /home/hakan/inbox/inbox incoming-folders : "debian" /home/hakan/inbox/debian : "lyx" /home/hakan/inbox/lyx : "Space" /home/hakan/inbox/Space : "Warp" /home/hakan/inbox/Warp : "AmigaE" /home/hakan/inbox/AmigaE : "CUSeeMe" /home/hakan/inbox/CUSeeMe : "IncErrs" /home/hakan/inbox/IncErrs : "MrList" /home/hakan/inbox/MrList : "Space" /home/hakan/inbox/Space : "libwwwPerl" /home/hakan/inbox/libwwwPerl : "tkPerl" /home/hakan/inbox/tkPerl : "WebCT" /home/hakan/inbox/WebCT feature-list : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : include-text-in-reply : signature-at-bottom : enable-bounce-cmd : quit-without-confirm : enable-aggregate-command-set : expanded-view-of-folders : expunge-without-confirm : compose-cut-from-cursor : compose-send-offers-first-filter : reply-always-uses-reply-to : save-will-advance : enable-incoming-folders : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : news-read-in-newsrc-order : auto-zoom-after-select initial-keystroke-li : l customized-hdrs : Linux-Version: Debian (http://www.debian.org) saved-msg-name-rule : by-recipient character-set : ISO-8859-1 use-only-domain-name : No last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.95 display-filters : _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ /usr/lib/pinepgp/check _TMPFILE_ _RESULTFILE_ sending-filters : /usr/lib/pinepgp/auto _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ : /usr/lib/pinepgp/sign _TMPFILE_ : /usr/lib/pinepgp/crypt _TMPFILE_ _RECIPIENTS_ ======= Global_val options set (/etc/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : hobbe.ub2.lu.se nntp-server : news.lu.se inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-full-header-cmd saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (/etc/pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete no-enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-mouse-in-xterm no-enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== ^C (0x0003) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) ---343801056-324449197-855645006=:2507-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 02:29:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01618 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 02:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA01618 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 02:21:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01614 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 02:20:57 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:18:28 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA18634; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:20:29 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:20:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Joe R. Jah" , Rick Byers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Regarding my posting about trying the "disable-busy-alarm" configuration setting if you're experiencing hangs in Pine with a perpetually spinning "busy cursor"... The "disable-busy-alarm" item is a hidden configuration option for, I guess, debugging tests (possibly in response to my original bug report). It doesn't have a user-interface in the Setup Configuration screen and so cannot be set from there. Instead you must edit your Pine settings file ($HOME/.pinerc for UNIX Pine) and add this to the list of values of the "feature-list" variable. (Simply adding "disable-busy-alarm" by itself any old place in the file won't work.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) > > From: Mike Brudenell > > To: Rick Byers > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > > > Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our > > SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different > > patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts > > for the discrepancy. > > I see it on our HP system as well as on a Solaris box, but only when I run > Pine3.95 not when I run Pine3.91, which I still preserve. > > > For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the > > systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" > > alarm and things work just fine. > > I can't find "disable-busy-alarm" in my Pine configurations; How do you > set it? > > Thanks, > > Joe On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Rick Byers wrote: > Joe, > > Just add "disable-busy-alarm" to your feature list (/local/lib/pine.conf, > or ~/.pinerc should work too). I've turned it off, and so far it's > working great (thanks Mike!). It really didn't help much anyway... > > Rick On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > I added it on a line by itself, but it didn't make a difference. > > Thank you for the reply anyway, > > Joe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:24:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02642 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:24:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02253 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:20:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA02240 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:20:19 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 11 Feb 97 12:20:12 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00696; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:05:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:05:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Tracey Gaulrapp cc: Ed Greshko , dkrull@prairienet.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: black n white problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII <<< No Message Collected >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:25:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02189 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:25:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02243 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:20:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA02238 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:20:17 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 11 Feb 97 12:20:09 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00696; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:05:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:05:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Tracey Gaulrapp cc: dkrull@prairienet.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: black n white problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Tracey Gaulrapp wrote: >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:50:49 -0700 (MST) >From: Tracey Gaulrapp >To: Ed Greshko [B >Cc: dkrull@prairienet.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, > Tracey Gaulrapp ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Never heard of fcc:, have we? >Subject: Re: black n white problem Robin says: FLAMEWAR TIME!!! >Ed, > I don't know who you are, nor you me, and I am really glad I don't >know you. If you knew him, you'd not have said that. >All I did was ask for some assistance, not your snide remarks. I have my >preferences and you have yours. You had no right lashing out at me, or >telling me what kind of operating system I should be using. I hope you're >not this unprofessional all the time. Dear Tracey A. Gaulrapp, don't we all sometimes sit down and wonder what all these funny little signs on that big square thing in front of us mean? Now, in this case it might have been helpful to think about these letters: dkrull@prairienet.org Doesn't ring a bell? Thought so... My my, were we getting kicks out of flaming people without thinking first, hm? Now, here's a bit out of the original message in case you haven't forgotten to read in the meantime: ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From: dkrull@prairienet.org (Don Krull) ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Next, you might want to ponder the meaning of all those little ">" signs that happen to appear now and then... >On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: >> > >> > In a previous article, tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp) says: Hmmm, could it be you're not able to count to three? Or didn't you read the manual? There's >> > for you and > for Ed... What might >> be? Enough of that... Next time you flame a person, make sure you hit the right one. Ceterum censeo that dkrull@prairienet.org (Don Krull) is a show-off who's trying to impress people with half-digested snippets from third class hacker-slang-dictionaries. Please flame him _personally_. flame off ---->/ Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:45:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02936 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA03381 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:41:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA03371 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 03:41:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuGQ9-000395C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 03:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Re: binhex Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:28:22 GMT Message-ID: <5do3tm$7v7@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> In-reply-to: bensmail@stat.washington.edu's message of 10 Feb 1997 12:55:20 Try to get a program named "mcvert" from a ftp-site. It's old but it worked for me. Kjell I need your help to read a received binhex file I am working on unix machines From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:55:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA03407 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA04341 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:52:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA04337 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:52:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuHZs-000396C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 04:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:38:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5dm1kc$oqa@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dm1kc$oqa@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 10 Feb 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > I'd like to say that since using 3.95 over 3.91, I find one thing very > bothersome. [At top or bottom of index screen, cannot cursor up or down to go to [next screen; Pine now scrolls by a single line instead of a whole [screen.] Granted, to some extent this may be a matter of personal taste and operating style, but I also find this change in Pine to be thoroughly obnoxious. Particularly because of the way I handle newsgroups, the new style in Pine is just plain clumsy. Having a configuration option as to which way you want Pine to work would be far, far better. (They have the code to do it both ways because they have _done_ it both ways.) After all, one may now specify the screen overlap in the viewer. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:55:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA03661 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:55:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03482 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:52:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA03472 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 04:52:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuHXo-000395C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 04:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: choward@intellistor.com (Chris Howard) Subject: Pine with Multiview Mascot Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:21:33 GMT Message-ID: <5dnhud$oj1@opus.intellistor.com> I am having a problem with Pine running on a system that uses Multiview for multi-screen capability on a dumb terminal (wyse60/50). Multiview puts a single menu line at the bottom of each screen. That appears to be messing up Pine, particularly on the Compose screen. Anyway to convince Pine not to use all 24 lines? -- Chris Howard From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 07:12:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05354 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 07:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA05950 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 07:08:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ihgw2.lucent.com (ihgw2.lucent.com [207.19.48.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA05946 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 07:08:11 -0800 From: vikas@joshua.insight.att.com Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by ihig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id JAA19499; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:02:22 -0600 Received: (from vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA12474; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:07:07 -0500 (EST) Original-From: "Vikas Agnihotri [dtr]" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.pine Subject: Pine 3.95 and procmail Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com Followup-To: poster X-No-Archive: Yes Date: 11 Feb 1997 10:07:01 EST [This message has also been posted to Usenet] Hello, Thinking of using 'procmail' as my mail filter with Pine 3.95 as the mail client. If anyone out there has any experience with this combination, I would appreciate it if you could share your experiences/any special 'gotchas', etc? How would you recommend I start off? Thanks a lot, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:25:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01274 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA07147 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:18:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from algw1.lucent.com (algw1.lucent.com [205.147.213.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA07143 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:17:57 -0800 From: vikas@joshua.insight.att.com Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by alig1.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id LAA11276; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:28:03 -0500 Received: (from vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA13166; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:16:51 -0500 (EST) Original-From: "Vikas Agnihotri [dtr]" To: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating References: <5dm1kc$oqa@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com X-No-Archive: Yes Date: 11 Feb 1997 11:16:48 EST [This message has also been posted to Usenet] On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:38:35 -0500, Paul O Bartlett wrote: >On 10 Feb 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: >> I'd like to say that since using 3.95 over 3.91, I find one thing very >> bothersome. >[At top or bottom of index screen, cannot cursor up or down to go to [next >screen; Pine now scrolls by a single line instead of a whole [screen.] > Granted, to some extent this may be a matter of personal taste and >operating style, but I also find this change in Pine to be thoroughly >obnoxious. Let me add my vote here too :-) I too find this feature/bug totally irritating. I frequently use Pine by dialing up to my Unix box, and running a VT100/Telnet emulator, which you can imagine is quite slow. And mind you, I have to be *very* careful about hitting keys when I am on a modem connection because the screen updates lag my typing *by far* ! To get around this, I do the following: I 'D'elete the last message in the folder index and Lo and Behold, Pine 3.95 now scrolls the entire screen ! Now I arrow to the previous message and 'U'ndelete it! All this stupid motion just to scroll the screen. I wish there were a option to allow us to scroll to next/previouspage when the cursor down/up beyond the last/first message! Mark, Terry, Dave..,.. please accomodate us.. Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:57:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA08294 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:57:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA08129 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:52:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA08119 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:51:51 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA095609618; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:46:58 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:46:57 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" Reply-To: "Joe R. Jah" To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Rick Byers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:20:27 +0000 (GMT) > From: Mike Brudenell > To: "Joe R. Jah" , Rick Byers > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > Regarding my posting about trying the "disable-busy-alarm" configuration > setting if you're experiencing hangs in Pine with a perpetually spinning > "busy cursor"... My case is slightly different, in which messages take a relatively long tome to get posted, up to three to five minutes before I regain control. I still have Pine3.91 on the system and when I run it messages get posted without any delay. > The "disable-busy-alarm" item is a hidden configuration option for, I > guess, debugging tests (possibly in response to my original bug report). > > It doesn't have a user-interface in the Setup Configuration screen and so > cannot be set from there. > > Instead you must edit your Pine settings file ($HOME/.pinerc for UNIX > Pine) and add this to the list of values of the "feature-list" variable. > (Simply adding "disable-busy-alarm" by itself any old place in the file > won't work.) I did just that after Rick Byers kindly explained it on this list, but it did not make a difference in the performance of my Pine3.95 on HP system. I also run Pine 3.95 on a Solaris box, having the same problem. I run it on a BSDI box without any problem. Options and features are set the same way across these three platforms, yet this problem only appears on HP and Solaris. I read a message on this list dating January 27 describing the exact problem: > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 > From: "Jeff D. Hinds" > Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:20:27 GMT > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > When sending mail from a HPUX system, the pine program appears to hang up. > This is most noticeable with large message being sent to a large > distribution list. However, from time to time, this hang up occurs when > sending a simple two paragraph message to a local user on the HPUX system. > Has anyone encountered this behavior and is there a way to correct it? I hope someone on the list solves this problem, otherwise I'll have to revert back to Pine3.91. Thanks for your help, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:06:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA09364 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA07340 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:58:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.tyx.com (gateway.tyx.com [198.240.73.126]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA07336 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 08:58:35 -0800 Received: from big-wayne.tyx.com (wayne.tyx.com [198.240.80.67]) by gateway.tyx.com (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA06738 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:03:52 -0500 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:00:02 -0500 () From: Wayne Cuddy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Spell Checking Under MS Operating Systems Message-ID: X-X-Sender: wayne@linux2.tyx.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does any know of or use a Spell Checker that integrates nicely with Pine-3.95 in Windows 95 or NT? Wayne P Cuddy TYX CORP Software Architecture wayne@tyx.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:28:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25604 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA08233 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:24:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA08210 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:23:48 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:18:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA01042; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:20:21 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:20:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 11 Feb 1997 vikas@joshua.insight.att.com wrote: > Let me add my vote here too :-) I too find this feature/bug totally > irritating. > > I frequently use Pine by dialing up to my Unix box, and running a > VT100/Telnet emulator, which you can imagine is quite slow. And mind you, I > have to be *very* careful about hitting keys when I am on a modem connection > because the screen updates lag my typing *by far* ! > > To get around this, I do the following: I 'D'elete the last message in the > folder index and Lo and Behold, Pine 3.95 now scrolls the entire screen ! Now > I arrow to the previous message and 'U'ndelete it! All this stupid motion > just to scroll the screen. I wish there were a option to allow us to scroll to > next/previouspage when the cursor down/up beyond the last/first message! Ummm.... Am I missing something here? Wouldn't it just be easier to use the "scroll by a screenful" commands? ... Space Bar ... scroll forward a screenful - ... scroll back a screenful These keys can be used in most places (Index screen, when reading a message, Setup Configuration screen, etc). In case some people don't know, there's also a couple of commands for going straight to the top or bottom of a message/index screen/etc: ^W ^Y ... Go to first line ^W ^V ... Go to last line Given the above commands the "drive the cursor into the margin to give small amounts of scrolling" is a quite useful addition, rather just duplicating the effect of the above keystrokes (at least, I think so:-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:05:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA26446 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA10028 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:52:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from saturn.planet.net (saturn.planet.net [198.69.0.108]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA10024 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:52:54 -0800 Received: (from rosensta@localhost) by saturn.planet.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA13557; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:52:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:52:53 -0500 (EST) From: Michael Rosenstark To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: CC: 'ing automatically Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using UNIX pine, version 3.91, and I was wondering if anyone knew how to set the program to always CC: a particular address (a default CC:, if you will). thanks for any help in advance, mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Rosenstark * rosensta@planet.net * 201-PIG-LARD (201-744-5273) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:12:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA25983 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA09255 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:00:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from algw2.lucent.com (algw2.lucent.com [205.147.213.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA09251 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:00:17 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by alig2.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id MAA01470; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:58:54 -0500 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA14213; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:56:45 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:56:44 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Mike Brudenell Original-cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:20:19 +0000 (GMT) > From: Mike Brudenell > Cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating > On 11 Feb 1997 vikas@joshua.insight.att.com wrote: > > To get around this, I do the following: I 'D'elete the last message in the > > folder index and Lo and Behold, Pine 3.95 now scrolls the entire screen ! > > Now I arrow to the previous message and 'U'ndelete it! All this > > stupid motion just to scroll the screen. I wish there were a option to > > allow us to scroll to next/previouspage when the cursor down/up beyond the > > last/first message! > Ummm.... Am I missing something here? Wouldn't it just be easier to use > the "scroll by a screenful" commands? ... > Space Bar ... scroll forward a screenful > - ... scroll back a screenful Yes.. I know these commands. The thing is the following: When I do at the last message on a given screen, it takes me to the next message *and* scrolls the screen down 1 screenful. So far so good, but now (cursor is on top of screen) when I do a '-', it scrolls back 1 screen but also the first message in the previous screen is made the current message and not the message prior to the earlier message which the cursor key would do. I hope I made sense :-) But as I said, it is a minor irritation and one that I can live with. I just dont get why doing 'D'elete on the last message should scroll forward one but will not ! A tad inconsistent, wouldnt you say? Regards, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:44:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA11485 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:44:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA10244 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:37:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA10240 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:37:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuMxe-000398C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 10:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fevzi Alimoglu Subject: Folders: pine -> MS Exchange Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:45:42 +0100 Message-ID: <330069F6.36D@jdc.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all ! I want to convert my old pine folders to MS Exchange folders. Could anyone help me? Please respond me by mail mailto: Fevzi.Alimoglu@jdc.dk PS: I would prefer pine, but in the office there is only MS Exchange From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:47:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14498 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:47:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13298 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:41:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA13269 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:41:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuO0I-000399C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 11:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pine in Unix shell Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:09:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <5dq3l5$ppb@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> dorpmunj@r8p.cs.man.ac.uk (Jens Doerpmund (IEP PhD)): > When I use Pine on a remote terminal I cannot enter certain characters. Such as? ^[ ^Q ^S ^C ^^ a b c ? > (I don't have these problems with other progs, such as elm.) > Is this a problem with termcaps? I've set "term" to vt102. Maybe you need to set TERM (upcase)? Is vt102 defined in the termcap? Do the docs to your terminal program say that it will understand it? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:58:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14122 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:58:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13737 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:54:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13733 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:53:58 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA03281; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:53:50 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 11:53:49 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Feb 1997 vikas@joshua.insight.att.com wrote: > [This message has also been posted to Usenet] > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:38:35 -0500, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > >On 10 Feb 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > > >> I'd like to say that since using 3.95 over 3.91, I find one thing very > >> bothersome. > >[At top or bottom of index screen, cannot cursor up or down to go to [next > >screen; Pine now scrolls by a single line instead of a whole [screen.] > > > Granted, to some extent this may be a matter of personal taste and > >operating style, but I also find this change in Pine to be thoroughly > >obnoxious. > > Let me add my vote here too :-) I too find this feature/bug totally > irritating. I'm confused. Has no one noticed that if you use "N" and "P" to navigate, you (still) get the old behavior, and only if you use "^N" and "^P" or the arrow keys do you get the "new" behavior? In other words, now you have a choice... So what am I missing? > Mark, Terry, Dave..,.. please accomodate us.. Actually, neither Mark, Terry, nor David are the actual Pine authors --but we are all friends of the actual Pine authors (who are either too smart or too busy working on the next release to be sending much pine-info mail! :) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:15:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15306 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:15:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12941 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:12:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12921 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:11:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuOQs-000398C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 12:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spamstoppers@umich.edu Subject: Re: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:47:25 +0000 Message-ID: <3300867D.276E@umich.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excuse the fake address, but I have the same problem, but I would like to know if PINE can block future messages from spammers? I have been receiving messages from the same addresses even after I have requested removal from their lists. And, if the the rejected mail could be sent back with message explaining the rejection, so much the better. I know the spammer could simply change the sending address, but I would hope it would be too much work for too little return. Thanks ajwolf@the.above.domain.name From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:24:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15541 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA13256 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:21:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ihgw1.lucent.com (ihgw1.lucent.com [207.19.48.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA13252; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:21:34 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by ihig1.firewall.lucent.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-L sol2) id OAA05255; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:30:35 -0600 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA15847; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:20:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:20:25 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Terry Gray Original-cc: pobart@access.digex.net, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Terry Gray wrote: > On 11 Feb 1997 vikas@joshua.insight.att.com wrote: > > [This message has also been posted to Usenet] On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:38:35 > > -0500, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > >On 10 Feb 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > > >[At top or bottom of index screen, cannot cursor up or down to go to > > >[next screen; Pine now scrolls by a single line instead of a whole > > >[screen.] > > > Granted, to some extent this may be a matter of personal taste and > > >operating style, but I also find this change in Pine to be thoroughly > > >obnoxious. > I'm confused. Has no one noticed that if you use "N" and "P" to navigate, > you (still) get the old behavior, and only if you use "^N" and "^P" or > the arrow keys do you get the "new" behavior? In other words, now you > have a choice... So what am I missing? Oops! Major egg-on-face here. Terry.. you are right. I just never tried N or P before even though it is right in front of my eyes. I just used the arrow keys.. Sorry for complaining before doing everything I could. I dont usually do this. Apologies again, Regards, --Vikas > > Mark, Terry, Dave..,.. please accomodate us.. > Actually, neither Mark, Terry, nor David are the actual Pine authors --but > we are all friends of the actual Pine authors. and the actual Pine authors are.....? :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:38:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18066 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:38:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16993 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:34:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA16989 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 13:33:56 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 11 Feb 97 22:33:49 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA03585; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:17:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:17:48 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and procmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Feb 1997 vikas@joshua.insight.att.com wrote: >[This message has also been posted to Usenet] > Thinking of using 'procmail' as my mail filter with Pine 3.95 as the mail >client. >If anyone out there has any experience with this combination, I would >appreciate it if you could share your experiences/any special 'gotchas', etc? >How would you recommend I start off? Procmail is quite a monster, but once tamed will give a plethora of wonderful toys. Read the man pages (procmail and procmailrc) -- if you're any good at programming those will be all you need for now. If you want more than "basic" stuff, be sure to join the mailing list (which is really, really good) and read some of the many faqs that are available on the net. Start with Nancy McGoughs Filtering-FAQ. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:23:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21678 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18472 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:15:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from major.globecomm.net (major.globecomm.net [207.51.48.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA18462 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:15:41 -0800 Received: from tree.Stanford.EDU (tree.Stanford.EDU [36.83.0.139]) by major.globecomm.net (8.8.5/8.8.0) with SMTP id SAA21306 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:15:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 15:15:32 -0800 (PST) From: eva To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reply-to, From: option in SMTP setup? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can anyone tell me how I can set the SMTP specifications in Pine so that not my original email address, but an alternate address will show in the "From:" line in the header when I send messages to other people? -Eva ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For stalkers: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Eva Jettmar P.O. Box 3230 Stanford, CA 94309 510.268 3631 slave@devout.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That swordsmith is successful whose clients die of old age. - F. Brooks ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:16:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA23081 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:16:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA21496 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:12:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA21492 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:12:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuS5A-000399C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 15:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dorpmunj@r8p.cs.man.ac.uk (Jens Doerpmund (IEP PhD)) Subject: Pine in Unix shell Date: 11 Feb 1997 15:36:05 GMT Message-ID: <5dq3l5$ppb@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> Hi! When I use Pine on a remote terminal I cannot enter certain characters. (I don't have these problems with other progs, such as elm.) Is this a problem with termcaps? I've set "term" to vt102. The terminal programm I am using is Minicom 1.71 under Linux. Any help is very much appreciated. Jens From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:50:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA24291 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:50:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA20834 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:44:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA20827 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:44:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuSa1-000398C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 16:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: IMAP server needed? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:39:58 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5dgfon$l25@alpha2.drake.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dgfon$l25@alpha2.drake.edu> On 8 Feb 1997, Terry Asher wrote: > I have PC-Pine installed at home and a Unix account at a University. > I would like to read my mail that is on my Unix account from my > PC via PC-Pine. I do have a network phone connection. In the > inbox-path I put this: {alpha6.drake.edu}INBOX. I dial up my network > connection and double click on PC-Pine and this is the error that I get: > Can't connect to alpha6.drake.edu,143 Refused 10061. That message means that alpha6 does not have an IMAP service installed. > I am running Pine 3.95 on a Digital Unix machine. Where is IMAP supposed > to be run from - inet? The UW IMAP server is invoked from inetd; I don't know about other servers... -- David L. Miller | Research is what I'm doing when I Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | don't know what I'm doing. -- Box 354841, University of Washington | Wernher Von Braun 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:50:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA24327 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA22416 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:44:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA22412 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:44:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuSa5-000399C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 16:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Rot-13 Decoding in Pine's Newsreader? Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:51:01 GMT Message-ID: References: <5dnair$11d4@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> consult@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (Consulting): > Are there any plans to add rot-13 decoding to Pine's Newsreader. Well, rot13 is very simple - see "script" in my sig. You can use it as a filter - just pipe the mail to it. As simple as that! :-) Sven -- Sevn Guckes ROT13: #!/bin/sh tr A-Za-z N-ZA-Mn-za-m From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:58:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA29517 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26029 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26025 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:53:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuXVj-000398C; Tue, 11 Feb 97 21:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: news followup when followup-to: poster ? Date: 9 Feb 1997 17:40:57 GMT Message-ID: References: flavell@mail.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell): > When attempting to post a followup to an article where the poster has > specified Followup-to: poster, PINE-3.95a automatically creates an email > reply, without giving the opportunity to post to the newsgroup. This is the way it was defined. Thus it's not a bug but a feature. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:24:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27666 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA26478 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:21:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA26474 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:21:37 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA17010; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:21:34 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:21:33 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > > > Mark, Terry, Dave..,.. please accomodate us.. > > > Actually, neither Mark, Terry, nor David are the actual Pine authors --but > > we are all friends of the actual Pine authors. > > and the actual Pine authors are.....? :-) It turns out that this information is a carefully-guarded state secret... unless you happen to type "R" on the Main Menu and read the credits. :) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:03:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30690 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 00:03:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA29487 for pine-info-out; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:58:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA29483 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:58:03 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 12 Feb 97 08:57:55 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA04646 for ; Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:53:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:53:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam In-Reply-To: <3300867D.276E@umich.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 spamstoppers@umich.edu wrote: >Excuse the fake address, There's a fake address? Where? >but I have the same problem, but I would like to know if PINE can block >future messages from spammers? Of course not. It's a mailing program, not an augury. It's not a filtering program, either. One of those can be used, to pre-process mail before you get to read it in pine. Get Nancy McGough's filtering FAQ for the details. >I have been receiving messages from the same addresses even after I have >requested removal from their lists. Take a look at the Spam FAQ for a definition of "spam" --- afaik, it's _not_ what you're describing here. >And, if the the rejected mail could be sent back with message explaining >the rejection, so much the better. Check Doug Muths "forrep"-script. It's available at your local procmail-dealer. >I know the spammer could simply change the sending address, but I would >hope it would be too much work for too little return. Work? Where? >;-> Make sure to get the Net-Abuse FAQ, too. Read it *carefully* and *thoroughly*. Make sure to read the other FAQs that are mentioned there, too. And PLEASE don't use silly gimmicks like your fake address if you expect an answer from people, because it's more than annoying. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:30:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA32233 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA28942 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:25:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA28938 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:25:08 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:22:34 +0000 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA02172; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:24:29 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:24:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Joe R. Jah" cc: Rick Byers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > My case is slightly different, in which messages take a relatively long > tome to get posted, up to three to five minutes before I regain control. > I still have Pine3.91 on the system and when I run it messages get posted > without any delay. Ah, this is a different case (different time (at posting), and it does eventually return). I _think_ the delay you are seeing is more to do with some additional checking code introduced in Pine 3.95 (can anyone on the Pine Team confirm this, and what it does?) Have a look at Pine's Release Notes ("R" at the Main Menu, and search ("W" command) for "background" (there are several instances). This describes the *EXPERIMENTAL* "Background Sending" feature new to Pine 3.94 onwards. Note that you will probably have to recompile your Pine after uncommenting the "BACKGROUND_POST" definitions in your pine/osdep/os-XXX.h header file in order to make this feature available (if, indeed, it is supported on your platform). Worth a look... Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:50:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA00341 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA01755 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:43:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA01751 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:42:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuc5h-00039AC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 02:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert de Bath Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 20:38:11 +0000 Message-ID: References: <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> On 10 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > Nope, there is no way to currently reconnect Window#1. The best > thing you can do is quit Window #1 and proceed in Window #2. Actually, the > best thing you can do is not to try starting a second pine unless you tell > it a specific folder (not INBOX) to start in. Or use the '-o' option on the second pine, it doesn't grab the lock then. -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:54:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA01016 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA00889 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:50:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA00885 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:50:47 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:41:00 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA27828; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:43:03 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:43:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Terry Gray wrote: > > > I'm confused. Has no one noticed that if you use "N" and "P" to navigate, > > you (still) get the old behavior, and only if you use "^N" and "^P" or > > the arrow keys do you get the "new" behavior? In other words, now you > > have a choice... So what am I missing? > > Oops! Major egg-on-face here. Terry.. you are right. I just never tried N or > P before even though it is right in front of my eyes. I just used the arrow > keys.. Sorry for complaining before doing everything I could. I dont usually > do this. Perhaps I'd better confess that I've never noticed this difference either! I've always assumed that Cursor Up/Down were synonymous with P/N. Now it has been pointed out, however, it becomes obvious (as most things do). Cursor Up/Down are actually synonymous with ^P/^N, not P/N. By the way, Vikas, are you familiar with the "Jump" command and (more usefully) its shortcut? ... If you want to leap to a particular message in the Index screen (or even when reading a message) you can type "J" followed by the message number. The shortcut (available if you have set the "enable-jump-shortcut" setting) lets you omit the initial "J" and just type the message number. This can be handy for quickly moving the highlight from, say, a message at the top of the screen in the Index listing to one at the bottom. [Apologies if you already knew of this! (However some others may not, I guess.)] Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:02:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA01115 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:02:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02643 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:57:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02638 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:57:08 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:54:37 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA02990; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:56:44 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:56:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michael Rosenstark cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC: 'ing automatically In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Certainly with the current version of Pine (3.95) there is an item in the Setup Configuration screen called "customized-hdrs". This allows you to add extra (custom) headers with, if you wish, default values. It can, I believe, also be used to give default values to already existing headers (such as the "Cc:" header). However whether this facility is available in the ancient version 3.91 of Pine you are using I cannot recall. (Any chance of upgrading? There are many new features and bug-fixes.) By the way, if you are planning on always Cc'ing a copy to _yourself_ a better solution would be to use "Fcc:" rather than "Cc:". Instead of taking an e-mail address "Fcc:" wants the name of one of your folders. Whenever you send a message with an "Fcc: foldername" set a copy of the message is written straight into that folder. This avoids the (unnecessary) delay and overhead of sending a copy to yourself through the mail system only to have it arrive back in your INBOX. If you want to use "Fcc:" you can set its default value using the "default-fcc" variable in the Setup Configuration screen. You can also do snazzy things like tell Pine's Address Book to use a different Fcc folder when sending a message to someone listed in your Address Book (providing theirs is the first e-mail address in the "To:" field). Again, note that these options _may_ not be available in Pine 3.91 (I honestly can't recall). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Michael Rosenstark wrote: > I am using UNIX pine, version 3.91, and I was wondering if anyone knew > how to set the program to always CC: a particular address (a default CC:, > if you will). > > thanks for any help in advance, > > mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:41:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA01310 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:41:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01563 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:30:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA01559 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 04:30:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuddY-00039AC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 04:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: news followup when followup-to: poster ? Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > When attempting to post a followup to an article where the poster has > specified Followup-to: poster, PINE (the version I'm using says it's > 3.95a) automatically creates an email reply, without giving the > opportunity to post to the newsgroup (as well or instead). Is there a > way to intervene in this? [...] This sounds like a problem with the version of Pine you are using. I am on version 3.94, and when I pressed 'R' to make a reply to your post, Pine presented me with three standard choices (as it always does): 1. Post a followup to newsgroup; 2. Reply to author by email; 3. Do both at the same time. I never had to do anything to get this behavior: it is automatic. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:27:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA24015 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA03859 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:24:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA03855 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:24:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vueWU-00039AC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 05:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dietmar Schell Subject: Error while posting from PC-pine to qmail-server Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 23:18:15 +0100 Message-ID: <32FE4D27.4A4B@dsc.spacenet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've troubles sending mails from PC-Pine (3.95 (BETA) under WinNT3.51). Every time I try to send outside of my domain, I got the error: [Mail not send: sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5] Running "pine 3.95 for Unix" onto my Sun works perfectly. The interesting thing for me is, that I didn't get any logging information from QMail and IMAPD if I try to send from the PC (syslog). The posting within my domain works fine, as well as reading of the incomming messages. BTW: If I try to send to a foreign domain (which fails) I'm not able to enter sentences in *one* line. Every time a press 'space', a newline is generated...:-( (if I send within my domain, there's no problem) Here's my configuration: QMail 0.95 Server runnning onto SunOS4.1.3_U1 IMAPD distributed with Pine 3.95 PC-Pine 3.95 (beta, 15-Jul-96) running under WinNT3.51 patchlevel 4 Hope you can help me out. Best regards, Dietmar -- ------------------------------------------------------- Dietmar Schell Tel: ++49-89-60600356 Cramer-Klett-Str. 23 85579 Neubiberg Email: dsc@dsc.spacenet.de ------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:32:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA02053 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:32:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02254 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:30:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pathway1.pathcom.com (pathway1.pathcom.com [204.191.122.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA02250 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:30:25 -0800 Received: from iceberg (ts5l15.pathcom.com [207.245.15.99]) by pathway1.pathcom.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17308 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:30:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970212083026.006fcda4@mail.pathcom.com> X-Sender: jkwong@mail.pathcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 beta 4 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:30:29 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Technical Support Subject: .forward file but a twist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am using Pine 3.91. When I try to forward my mail to multiple accounts, it doesn't work. I have this in my .forward file: username is for local host, username2 is alternate location \username,username@domain.com Could this be something the administrators on my network have done or do I have to use procmail or something? Thanks ============================================================================== Jason Kwong Systems Support Pathway Communications Mail: jkwong@pathcom.com 1 Yonge Street Voice 416 214 6363 Suite 2205 FAX 416 214 6238 Toronto, Ontario http://www.pathcom.com M5E 1E5 ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:39:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA02128 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02418 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:36:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02414 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:36:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vueeo-00039CC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 05:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: genuine_risk@hotmai.com (Genuine Risk) Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 01:22:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com>, E.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) wrote: > Actually, the > best thing you can do is not to try starting a second pine unless you tell > it a specific folder (not INBOX) to start in. > how do you do that? -- Genuine Risk mailto:genuine_risk@hotmail.com http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8689/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:57:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01601 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:57:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA04285 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:51:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA04281 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 05:51:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuexD-00039BC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 05:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dag Olav Nymoen Subject: Re: Sending mail in pine for Win95 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:18:32 +0100 Message-ID: <330160B8.5DB5@powertech.no> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roberto Machado wrote: > > Isn't there a way to use pine for Win95 just to send mails? > > I try to send a message, and it says: > > [Can't send message without an open remote folder] > > I don't have access to a IMAP server. I tried to put > {pine.cac.washington.edu:144/anonymous}#news.updates.pine395 > as my inbox path. The folder opens ok, but the message still > come up. > > If pine for Win95 can't really work, do you know another MUA that > supports customized header (like "Approved:"). > > TIA, Roberto I got the same problem...I don't know this program... Pleas mail me: dagon@powertech.no for any suggiestion.... DAG -- Don´t forget to mail me... (.|.)TeleHor sUx !!! ).( dagon@powertech.no ( V ) \|/ --<--<@ | I'll be here 4U | @>-->-- ^-._.-^-._.-^-._.-^-._.-^| DAG |^-._.-^-._.-^-._.-^-._.-^ _________-----_____ _____------ __ ----_ ___---- ___------ \ ----________ ---- \ -----__ | _____) __- / \ _______----- ___-- \ /)\ ------_______ ---____ \__/ / -----__ \ -- _ /\ --__--__ \_____/ \_/\ ----| / | | |___________| | | ((_(_)| )_) | \_((_(_)|/(_) \ ( \_____________) "Lie back and dream of me, Red death to set you free, We turn the screws to make you die." © 1996 Dag Olav Nymoen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:27:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA01417 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:27:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA04730 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:22:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA04726 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:22:43 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA19799 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:21:12 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id RAA26057; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:23:36 +0300 (MSK) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:23:34 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list cc: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: news followup when followup-to: poster ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > > > When attempting to post a followup to an article where the poster has > > specified Followup-to: poster, PINE (the version I'm using says it's > > 3.95a) automatically creates an email reply, without giving the > > opportunity to post to the newsgroup (as well or instead). Is there a > > way to intervene in this? [...] > > This sounds like a problem with the version of Pine you are using. > I am on version 3.94, and when I pressed 'R' to make a reply to your > post, Pine presented me with three standard choices (as it always > does): > > 1. Post a followup to newsgroup; > 2. Reply to author by email; > 3. Do both at the same time. > > I never had to do anything to get this behavior: it is automatic. > Actually, it sounds more like a problem of _your_ version :-) RFC1036 (if I remember the number right) states, that if Followup-To: contains single word "poster", any followup should be mailed to athor's address and _not_ posted. So Pine 3.95 is quite correct on that matter. greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:29:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02325 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:29:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA04771 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:26:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA04764 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:26:21 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:22:17 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA02924; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:24:24 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:24:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Genuine Risk cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Extract from Pine's "man" page: -f folder Open folder (in first defined folder collection) instead of INBOX. Thus: pine -f foldername or, for IMAP connections with most shells: pine -f '{imap.yoursite.domain}foldername' Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Genuine Risk wrote: > In article <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com>, E.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed > Greshko) wrote: > > > Actually, the > > best thing you can do is not to try starting a second pine unless you tell > > it a specific folder (not INBOX) to start in. > > > > how do you do that? > > -- > Genuine Risk > mailto:genuine_risk@hotmail.com > http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8689/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:48:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA03010 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:48:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA03325 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:45:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA03321 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 06:45:23 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:29:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:42:14 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.93 & Imapd, version 4 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Feb12.092943est.18433@gateway.happy.com> From what I have read, it appears that Imap 4 and pine should get along but I was curious if anyone out there is already running this combination. If so, have you run into any problems or conflicts? More specifics: We are presently running Pine 3.93 using Imap version 2 on AIX 3.2.5. My co-worker wants to upgrade us to Imapd version 4. Thanks! ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:16:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02054 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:16:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA05405 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:10:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA05401 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:10:20 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA07710 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 12 Feb 97 10:10:17 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id JAA27558; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:59:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:59:52 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Info Newsgroup Subject: Do Not Forward Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know how to prevent a message from being forwarded? Is there a way to control this on a per-message basis, or is it a feature which can be set/unset? We use v3.91 here, so it may be in a later version; if so please let me know which. Thanx to all in advance! Joe DiBenedetto From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:49:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA32764 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA04245 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:40:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA04241 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:40:03 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:39:40 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: jkwong@pathcom.com Subject: Re: .forward file but a twist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3301e43c7425002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:39:42 +0800 > I am using Pine 3.91. When I try to forward my mail to multiple accounts, > it doesn't work. > > I have this in my .forward file: > > username is for local host, username2 is alternate location > > \username,username@domain.com > > Could this be something the administrators on my network have done or do > I have to use procmail or something? OK, first of all there is no relationship to the operation of the .forward and that of pine. They are independent. When you say, it "doesn't work", you don't tell us what the failure mode is. Do you get a copy at "username" but not username@domain.com? What exactly is the failure mode. I would suggest that you have 2 lines in your .forward file. \usermaname username@domain.com *and* that you ensure your .forward is world readable. Meaning if you do an "ls -l .forward" you see something like -rw-r--r-- for the permissions. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:55:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03198 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA04437 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:49:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goedel.cs.fiu.edu (goedel.cs.fiu.edu [131.94.125.43]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA04433 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:49:26 -0800 Received: from pelican.cs.fiu.edu (pelican.cs.fiu.edu [131.94.125.154]) by goedel.cs.fiu.edu (8.8.5/FIU-CS-1.0) with SMTP id KAA19383; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:49:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:47:18 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine Hernandez To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: Catherine Hernandez Subject: Question about "Reply" Message-ID: X-Sender: hernandc@goedel.cs.fiu.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Running PC-Pine 3.92 under Windows NT 3.51/4.0: Is it possible to configure Pine so that when one "replies" to a message they will ONLY reply to the sender and not the CC:. I understand that you can be prompted to not "reply to all"....However, I would like the default to be NOT reply to all without prompting. I realize this is an unusual request...Your help is greatly appreciated. Catherine Hernandez School of Computer Science Florida International University Miami, Fl 33199 hernandc@cs.fiu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:05:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA05877 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:05:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA07710 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:57:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07700 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:57:18 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA121077666; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:14:27 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:14:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Rick Byers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:24:27 +0000 (GMT) > From: Mike Brudenell > To: "Joe R. Jah" > Cc: Rick Byers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > > > My case is slightly different, in which messages take a relatively long > > tome to get posted, up to three to five minutes before I regain control. > > I still have Pine3.91 on the system and when I run it messages get posted > > without any delay. > > Ah, this is a different case (different time (at posting), and it does > eventually return). > > I _think_ the delay you are seeing is more to do with some additional > checking code introduced in Pine 3.95 (can anyone on the Pine Team confirm > this, and what it does?) > > Have a look at Pine's Release Notes ("R" at the Main Menu, and search ("W" > command) for "background" (there are several instances). This describes > the *EXPERIMENTAL* "Background Sending" feature new to Pine 3.94 onwards. > > Note that you will probably have to recompile your Pine after uncommenting > the "BACKGROUND_POST" definitions in your pine/osdep/os-XXX.h header file > in order to make this feature available (if, indeed, it is supported on > your platform). > > Worth a look... Yes it is, and I will look into it and send my results to the list. Thank you very much, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:30:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA09517 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA10296 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:20:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nottingham.ac.uk (pat.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.194]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA10292 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:20:48 -0800 Received: from granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.40.43] by nottingham.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 1.58 #10) id 0vujIO-0000qK-00; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:20:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (psylgxg@localhost) by granby.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA24413 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:20:38 GMT Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:20:38 +0000 (GMT) From: George Gallianos X-Sender: psylgxg@granby To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I desperately need help... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ...to export an ATTACHMENT to a seperate file so that I can use elsewhere (e.g. say a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there). Can anyone PLEASE help? Thanks a lot, George Gallianos From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:19:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA12952 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:18:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA11405 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:08:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA11401 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:08:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vukk8-00039DC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 11:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sergio Valdivia Subject: Process Terminated by SIGSEV..? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 17:38:05 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings.. again! I'm running PINE 3.95 OS/2 version.. using POP/3 - Using OS/2 Warp ver.# 3.00 (Red Spine) - Latest PPP/IAK - (IDENT is running) - 486dx2/66 - etc.. In the beginning I was able to poll two different servers for my e-mail.. also could read/post to newsgroups.. it started by after being PINE for a period of time.. my INBOX would be closed and a message stating it was due to "access error". This would close only my INBOX.. newsgroups still worked. Then I started being kicked out of PINE.. after reading a few groups/messages.. with the error message: "Process Terminated by SIGDEV" Now.. PINE will not even attempt to connect.. read msgs/poll.. etc.. it kicks me out immediately with a new error message: "Process Terminated by SIGSEV" "SYS1808: The Process has Stopped. The Software diagnostic code (Exception Code) is 0005" And that's where I'm stuck.. weird.. huh? Needless to say.. any forthcoming assistance.. would be sincerely appreciated. -=( Sergio Valdivia )=- -=(svaldivi@slonet.org)=- -=(mogul@gaianet.net)=- -=(1:212/2001.3)=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA12424 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA11475 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA11465 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:10:44 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA18535 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 12 Feb 97 15:10:37 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id OAA26020; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:42:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:42:38 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: George Gallianos Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I desperately need help... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No problem. First, choose View Attachment (V) then highlight the attachment you want to export. Choose Save, and Pine will ask you what filename you want to save the file under (it may default to the file's actual .DOC name). At that point, you will have a copy of the file available for export in either your home directory, or your current working directory, depending on how your configuration is setup. Good luck, Joe DiBenedetto On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, George Gallianos wrote: > ...to export an ATTACHMENT to a seperate file so that I can use elsewhere > (e.g. say a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there). Can > anyone PLEASE help? > > Thanks a lot, > > George Gallianos > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:40:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA00861 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA13491 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:21:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA13487 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:21:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuktA-00039FC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:46:26 +930 Message-ID: References: <32FC27D8.7689508C@carib-link.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32FC27D8.7689508C@carib-link.net> On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Lennard Kong wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a way to mark all messages read or mark them to > delete with one key stroke ? ;aad (RTFM) --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:43:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA00330 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA11995 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:29:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA11991 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:29:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vul92-00039DC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jacek Kopecky Subject: Re: Forwarding a message Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:51:51 +0100 Message-ID: References: <01bc0b9f$04e73c60$9907c580@Patrick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bc0b9f$04e73c60$9907c580@Patrick> On 26 Jan 1997, Patrick Chan wrote: > I am wondering how I can forward a message with .forward, but keeping all > the messages in my mail box as well? Try putting one of these lines at the end of your .forward file: yourname@your.machine yourname@localhost Or you can put a script as one of the addresses, like this | script.pl Which will append standard input to some file, and tell your pine that this file is your inbox. Jacek Kopecky E-mail: jacek.kopecky@upol.cz WWW: http://www.upol.cz/~kopeckyj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:03:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14327 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:03:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14282 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14278 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulNj-00039DC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine 3.93 hangs in justify Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 18:59:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Dave Aronson wrote: > When replying to a message, and killing quoted text, sometimes I > accidentally hit ^J (Justify) instead of ^K (Kill). [...] > > Other than typing more carefully, upgrading (which, not being the > sysadmin, [etc.] > is there anything I can > do to avoid this? > > [rest of post omitted] You are not alone in striking adjacent keys and having something occur other than what you intended. Happens all the time to me. However, you might want to consider the alternate editor feature again. There _are_ other editors available than vi and its offspring and various incarnations of Emacs. For example, I use Joe, which I consider an "intermediate" editor in between the primitiveness of the Pine composer and the horrors of vi/Emacs. And it is configurable, so you can rebind keystrokes to your pleasure if you don't like the defaults that come with it. (It even comes with a "SuperPico" emulation.) I have a pointer to it on my home page. I'm no hotshot Un*x programmer, but it compiled first time for me right out of the box (then I discovered my ISP already supplied it). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14329 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:03:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14300 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14296 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulO9-00039HC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Multiple nntp servers? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:06:24 GMT On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Bruce Ramsay wrote: (helpful explanation omitted) > The reason you get all the newsgroups in the first nntp server folder is > because you havn't set up the filters correctly. If this is done both > receiving and sending to newsgroups on a particulat server can be done. ^^^^^^^^^^^ (see later **) > *{nntplocal.foo.com/nntp}[foo.*] > *{nntpremote.foo.com/nntp}[comp.*] Ah! Thanks. I understand that now, and it tidies up the groups lists nicely. > o Each time you add a new one of there lines you get a new folder. OK. So, reading the groups is more convenient when configured in the way you describe; but I still haven't been able to post to the groups that aren't on the default server (the one configured in the nntp-server field). **) Is there really a way to post to the other server(s) from PINE? I haven't found it yet. When I attempt it with what (I believe) to be the configuration you're suggesting, using an older version of PINE, I get a strange error message error posting message: 421 SMTP server went away! With recent versions of PINE it won't let me even try to post - it says "validating newsgroups" (evidently validating them with my default nntp-server) and then reports "Unknown news group" and won't let me move the cursor out of the newsgrps field. I am, however, able to post to this group if I reconfigure the second server to be my default nntp-server. But then I can't post to groups on the first server. > o If you have the original value in this fiels *{nntpremote.foo.com/nntp} > pine will again try to pick up all the newsgroups using that server. Yes, that's understood. Thanks. For reading it's a distinct improvement, but, as I say, posting still seems to be a problem. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14354 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14321 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14316 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulPA-00039NC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Auto reply in pine Date: 12 Feb 1997 12:46:42 GMT Message-ID: References: rajesh@hardlink.com (Rajesh Sharma): > Is it possible to set up auto reply in pine? No. > I am aware of vacation command on UNIX. Are you aware of filters, too? Because that is what you want! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14343 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:03:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14306 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14302 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulOJ-00039IC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cyber-Babushka Subject: Re: how do you send a file? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 07:07:03 -0500 References: <5cm021$mve@artemis.it.luc.edu> <5d4jdc$jft@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5d4jdc$jft@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Feb 1997, Don Krull wrote: >In a previous article, jmay@orion.it.luc.edu (Jennifer May) says: > >>I use pine 3.95 and I was wondering if there's any way I can email a file >>from my c: directory (for example, a Word document) >>through pine as an attachment? >>Thanks! >>Jen > >Hmm... do you mean C: drive on your OWN computer???? >Gee... try uploading it to your remote system (UNIX machine of >your university where your account is located) first. >[ Are you a first year undergraduate student, by any chance? ] >If you still don't know what I'm talking about, go ask your >university's Computing Services Office. You know, some people DO use Pine at home. There's no point in being rude. To answer the lady's question: Look in the headers in the composer. You'll see one that says "Attchmnt". Fill in the full path and filename of the file you want to send. If you filled it in correctly, then when you arrow up or down out of that field, it will fill in with the approximate size of the file. It will be automatically MIME-encoded and sent with the note as a file attachment. If you're using PC-PINE, I think you use standard dos filenames (c:\whatever\whatever). If you're using Unix or Linux Pine, you'll need to use the mountpoint of your dos partition (/dosc/for/example). hope this helps, bonni http://wvnvm.wvnet.edu/~u6ed4/bonni.html C++ Turbo Vision archive: http://brooks.wvn.wvnet.edu/tvhome __ __ IC | XC | bonni mierzejewska "The Lone Quilter" ---+--- | u6ed4@wvnvm.wvnet.edu NI | KA | Kelly's Creek Homestead, Maidsville, WV From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14369 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14294 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14290 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulNu-00039FC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: user683650@aol.com (User683650) Subject: M.S.U. e-mail Date: 6 Feb 1997 21:55:47 GMT Message-ID: <19970206215501.QAA20421@ladder01.news.aol.com> How can I check my Morehead State University e-mail from my home computer using America Online? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14394 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14312 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14308 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulOV-00039JC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: voldemar@sagantec.co.il (Vladimir A. Pertsel) Subject: Multiple character-sets: Re: Multiple pine windows Date: 11 Feb 1997 07:07:05 GMT Message-ID: <5dp5qp$est@news.NetVision.net.il> References: <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> In article , Robert de Bath writes: |> Or use the '-o' option on the second pine, it doesn't grab the lock then. That's a satisfactory solution to another problem: I wanted to mark the outgoing mail with different character-set header lines. You have helped me to solve the problem: I can open two or three pine instances in two or three xterm windows pine -p .pinercISO-8859-1 pine -o -p .pinercKOI8-R pine -o -p .pinercISO-8859-8 I can easily read in either window, since it is easy to change fonts in xterm window by , But I send letters in different languages from the different windows. -- From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ an ancestor of mine by the name of Noah was once the commanding admiral of the combined fleets of my planet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA13474 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14327 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14323 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulPU-00039PC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: news followup when followup-to: poster ? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:39:43 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Alan J. Flavell wrote: : On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : > On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Alan J. Flavell wrote: : > > When attempting to post a followup to an article where the poster has : > > specified Followup-to: poster, [...] : > This sounds like a problem with the version of Pine you are using. : > [...] : Yes, but I didn't specify followup-to: poster, so that isn't a test. My apology. I overlooked the specification "poster" when I replied to your message. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:08:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14213 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12703 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12695 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulOi-00039KC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kak@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de (Karl Krieger) Subject: Pine and SUN mailtool attachments - how? Date: 12 Feb 1997 11:34:35 +0100 Message-ID: <5ds6br$17fu@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de> As the subject says: I am using pine but I get loads of email sent from SUN's mailtool with their non-MIME attachment style. According to the Pine FAQ, there is a Perl script to convert SUN's attachments to MIME compliant messages. I got the script but how on earth can I teach pine to use this script to decode the mailtool messages and show them as MIME attachments in the mail box list? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Karl -- -- IPP, PO Box 1533 | Phone: +49-89-3299-1655 | E-Mail: D-85740 Garching | FAX : +49-89-3299-1149 | krieger@ipp.mpg.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:08:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA06162 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12726 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12722 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulPL-00039OC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pine and SUN mailtool attachments - how? Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:03:16 GMT Message-ID: References: <5ds6br$17fu@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de> kak@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de (Karl Krieger): > I am using pine but I get loads of email sent from > SUN's mailtool with their non-MIME attachment style. > According to the Pine FAQ, there is a Perl script > to convert SUN's attachments to MIME messages. > I got the script but how on earth can I teach pine > to use this script to decode the mailtool messages > and show them as MIME attachments in the mail box list? The description [*] says: "This is a simple filter ..." So you have to apply it to your mail filter - not Pine. Sven -- [*] ftp://cs.utk.edu/pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.README From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:08:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14435 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:08:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12690 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12684 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulO2-00039GC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: How to exclude group(s) from a folder collection ? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:57:41 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi, One can use something like: *{service.symantec.com/nntp}[symantec.*] to restrict to given group(s) the request to a nntp server. Is ist possible to exclude the request of given group(s) for an nntp server: On my main news server the groups symantec do not exist, and I would like that their names does not appear in the folder collection corresponding to this news server. Regards, Jean _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean Richelle Unité de Conformation des Macromolécules Biologiques Tel: +32 (0)2 650 3587 Université libre de Bruxelles FAX: +32 (0)2 648 8954 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:09:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14045 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12682 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12678 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulNo-00039EC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Suspending Pine Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 15:48:45 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Feb 1997 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > How does one suspend Pine? I've always quitted before responding to a > "talk" message. You must enable suspend in the setup, then you can use Ctrl-Z as normal \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:09:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14498 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12720 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12714 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulOw-00039MC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Rot-13 Decoding in Pine's Newsreader? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:41:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5dnair$11d4@ds2.acs.ucalgary.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Feb 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > Well, rot13 is very simple - see "script" in my sig. Is it possible to bind the script to a key? (so that one does not have to enter the name every time?) \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ "Hatred of DOS is entirely rational, and has nothing to do with who else uses it. There are ample reasons to despise that feeble excuse for an operating system." - Henry Spencer (1989) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:09:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14129 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12711 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA12707 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:54:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vulOp-00039LC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Bug (ID 812OK): Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:44:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Feb 1997, Hakan Ardo wrote: > if I try to add the following header to my customized-hdrs, > X-Face: R;!k)O*@?2ak[7XB&6G=YljP?tdH5hcAG?N%AeX0.|$B)k^2$;@0>0I4P A$'>suSO0cX[#~rN T1kI_+U`n7Wv}tGIecGtth37=}jCUvs-w\s6y`M!A$vMyoRh&5vPH0ozIjnoy7C((pbE;-%D}[.d+" > &?x^QhM:|],div9#m'#]86%XXp1nhrqh1lB|kPo;.K0A4m|Lg)7T}Ag`4dQ`7Q7c0x|mg/!HF^Y/P: > TyF,bY0!Yu[{LILz%t"`Lsj+}SFS>.fdOaNFc_sA)Qq"BA Why would you want to send that much extra junk in all your messages? Just curious. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ "Hatred of DOS is entirely rational, and has nothing to do with who else uses it. There are ample reasons to despise that feeble excuse for an operating system." - Henry Spencer (1989) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:11:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14518 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:11:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14577 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from brahms.udel.edu (brahms.udel.edu [128.175.13.16]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14566 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:04:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (lilyhua@localhost) by brahms.udel.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA09440 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:04:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:04:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Hua, Qing (Lily)" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I wanted to set up my signature, the computer will say "no signature file exist", and then i was pushed out.. I can't set up my signature, why? thank you. lily From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:13:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14664 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA12962 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:02:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA12958 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:02:35 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA03050; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:01:11 -0800 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:01:10 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Mike Brudenell cc: "Joe R. Jah" , Rick Byers , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > > > My case is slightly different, in which messages take a relatively long > > tome to get posted, up to three to five minutes before I regain control. > > I still have Pine3.91 on the system and when I run it messages get posted > > without any delay. > > Ah, this is a different case (different time (at posting), and it does > eventually return). > > I _think_ the delay you are seeing is more to do with some additional > checking code introduced in Pine 3.95 (can anyone on the Pine Team confirm > this, and what it does?) It's actually not Pine that is slowing things down... it's typically the smtp server that is doing address validation "while you wait". This all depends on the configuration of the smtp server. Some defer checking, and the associated DNS lookups, some don't. In a worst case scenario, the smtp server will actually try to automount the home directories of local recipients to look for .forward file entries... that can take *forever*. (That Pine talks directly to smtp servers, rather than queuing the msg, is new in recent versions, motivated by the need to support ESMTP options such as 8BITMIME and --later on-- Delivery Service Notifications.) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:16:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA12431 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA13225 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:10:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coat.coat.com (coat.coat.com [164.153.10.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA13220 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:10:28 -0800 Received: from rails.coat.com by coat.coat.com (SMI-8.6/BCFW-HUB-1.14) id QAA04217; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:10:25 -0500 Received: from localhost by rails.coat.com (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA07624; Wed, 12 Feb 97 16:10:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:10:21 -0500 From: Beth Protz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: andy.behrens@rails.coat.com Subject: Configuration Question Message-Id: Organization: Burlington Coat Factory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to everyone who sent me info on uploading a file!!! It took two weeks, but I've finally figured it out!!! Now, I have another question! I tried to change the column wrap-around width to 132 characters, but the default max value is 80. Is there any way to change that? Oh, and one more thing... For some reason, when I upload a text file from my word-processing program to Pine, it's placing a blank line between each line of text. Can this be stopped? I really appreciate all of your help!!! Happy St. Valentine's Day to all!!! Keep smiling!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:39:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14934 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:39:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA13899 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:31:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA13889 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:31:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vum47-00039FC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 13:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Load sharing imap service Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:12:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: [I'm cross-posting this to comp.mail.imap, please excuse the duplication --DLM] On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > This is more of an imap question than a pine one, but c.m.pine > seems like the best place to ask it. Check to see if your server has the comp.mail.imap newsgroup. It is pretty new, so I don't know how widely it is being propagated... > > We are running IMAP2bis Service 7.8(100) on a server called, say, > mailboxes.our.domain I would recommend upgrading to the latest IMAP4rev1 server (v10.164). Some of the newer IMAP clients don't work (at least not well) with older servers... > > Other things are also running on that machine and we are begining to > encounter performance problems due to memory. At a typical midday > time (say now) we have around 35 open imap connections. But the > numbers can go up to double or triple that on Monday morning. Furthermore > we will be moving more users over to this imap server as we reorganze > things. So we should be expecting double or triple our current load > on that server. > > We would like to spread the load. One thing we don't want to > do is have users have to know which imap server their mail happens > to be on. We are specifically trying to move away from that sort > of set-up. (For Unix clients we can put in a little shell > script that calls pine with different pine.conf files depending > on info we get about the user, but most clients are from MS-DOS > systems.) > > So what we would like is to have one CNAME which might point to > multiple imap servers and let the DNS rotate the names. You may be on the right track here. See below... > > Second we would NFS mount /var/spool/mail across these servers as > well as the directories containing the users' non-INBOX remote folders. > This is a BAD idea! You should never NFS mount /var/spool/mail. > I have a couple of questions: > > (1) Does this make any sense? > (2) Has anyone tried this? > (3) Does the NFS overhead cost too much compared to the imapd savings? > (4) Will imap clients such as pine cope with the multiple IP addresses > returned by DNS? (Actually this question presupposes stuff that > may not be true.) > (5) Will imapd locking get munged if a client breaks a connection and > then reconnects to another host? Locking doesn't work over NFS, period. > (6) If this is not the right strategy, what is? (In addition to > putting more memory into mailboxes.our.domain) Here are some possibilities: - Move non-IMAP processes off of your IMAP server. We find that having "single function" boxes leads to much better performance without unexplained slowdowns caused by some obscure resource contention problem. - Switch to a more memory-efficient mailbox format. Using the default Unix (Berkeley) mailbox format, the server has to keep the entire mailbox image in memory. Other formats, like Tenex, only keep an index in memory. The downside is that this puts a heavier load on disk access, which some systems don't handle too well. If you still need to split onto multiple servers, we have found that giving every user a CNAME to each user and using DNS to keep track of which server a user's folders are on works well. You may need to upgrade your DNS server though ;-) > > -j > -- > Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 > Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 > J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ > Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. > > > Good luck! -- David L. Miller | If I were two-faced, would I be Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | wearing this one? -- Abraham Box 354841, University of Washington | Lincoln 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:06:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA16115 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14610 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:58:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Jade.deans.umd.edu (Jade.deans.umd.edu [128.8.10.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14606 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:58:49 -0800 Received: from avw-b-29.umd..edu (avw-b-29.umd.edu [128.8.46.29]) by Jade.deans.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id QAA14704; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:58:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970212165947.00696cc8@deans.umd.edu> X-Sender: zjones@deans.umd.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:59:48 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Zinnie Jones Subject: Mime/Unmime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please send me information about Mime and Unmime Thank you zjones From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:29:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA16996 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:29:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA15481 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:26:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA15475 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:26:29 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA06065; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:09:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:09:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Can incoming folders be added easily through Pine? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It appears that the easiest way to add new incoming folders is to manually edit my ".pinerc" file. Does anyone know of a quick-n-easy way to add new incoming mail folders from within Pine without manually manipulating my ".pinerc"? -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17039 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA16981 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:27:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA16974 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:27:17 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 12 Feb 97 23:27:09 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA00787; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:39:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:39:16 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Joe DiBenedetto cc: George Gallianos , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I desperately need help... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: >On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, George Gallianos wrote: > >> ...to export an ATTACHMENT to a seperate file so that I can use elsewhere >> (e.g. say a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there). Can >> anyone PLEASE help? >No problem. First, choose View Attachment (V) then highlight the >attachment you want to export. Choose Save, and Pine will ask you what >filename you want to save the file under (it may default to the file's >actual .DOC name). At that point, you will have a copy of the file >available for export in either your home directory, or your current >working directory, depending on how your configuration is setup. From the passage "a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there", I draw the conclusion that George is using windoze. I've no idea if there is something like mailcap available, but if it is, you can set it up to launch the viewer from the View Attachment-window -- that seems to be what George is looking for, right? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:32:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17094 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA16977 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:27:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA16972 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:27:15 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 12 Feb 97 23:27:07 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA00819; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:43:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:43:42 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Matthew Schinckel rattled: >On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Lennard Kong wrote: > >> Is there a way to mark all messages read or mark them to >> delete with one key stroke ? > >;aad > >(RTFM) ^^^^^ Cool remark. Congrats... What Mr. Schinkel forgot to mention, though, is that you need to make a slight adjustment to your S(etup) C(onfiguration) for that, namely: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set Otherwise that command won't do anything. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:43:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17021 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:43:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA17442 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:39:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA17438 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:39:44 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 12 Feb 97 23:39:36 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01391; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:37:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:37:27 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Beth Protz cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, andy.behrens@rails.coat.com Subject: Re: Configuration Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Beth Protz wrote: >I tried to change the column wrap-around width to 132 characters, but the >default max value is 80. > >Is there any way to change that? If there is, it should be liquidated. You *don't* want that many lines because e.g. the people on VT100 terminals. >For some reason, when I upload a text file from my word-processing >program to Pine, it's placing a blank line between each line of text. > >Can this be stopped? zip the file first? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:44:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17517 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:44:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA17460 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:40:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA17451 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:40:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 12 Feb 97 23:40:26 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01399; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:38:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:38:17 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sven Guckes cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Auto reply in pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Feb 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >rajesh@hardlink.com (Rajesh Sharma): >> Is it possible to set up auto reply in pine? > >No. >> I am aware of vacation command on UNIX. >Are you aware of filters, too? >Because that is what you want! Right. Check the procmail packages on an ftp server near you for e.g. "forrep" by Doug Muth. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:23:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07045 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:22:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18484 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA18479 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:25 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Feb 97 00:16:16 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01412; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:39:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:39:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Hua, Qing (Lily)" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Hua, Qing (Lily) wrote: >Whenever I wanted to set up my signature, the computer will say >"no signature file exist", and then i was pushed out.. I can't set up my >signature, why? thank you. use an editor of your liking to create a file .signature in your home dir. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:23:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA18335 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18490 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA18481 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:27 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Feb 97 00:16:19 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA01542; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:00:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 00:00:21 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Paul O Bartlett cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.93 hangs in justify In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: >On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Dave Aronson wrote: > >> When replying to a message, and killing quoted text, sometimes I >> accidentally hit ^J (Justify) instead of ^K (Kill). [...] >> >> Other than typing more carefully, upgrading (which, not being the >> sysadmin, [etc.] >> is there anything I can >> do to avoid this? >> >> [rest of post omitted] [...] > For example, I use Joe, which I consider an "intermediate" editor in >between the primitiveness of the Pine composer and the horrors of >vi/Emacs. ME TOO!!! Sorry, just kidding... Joe is smaller and easier to use than VI (Ruhe hier, Sven! >;->) and it's justification is a lot nicer than pico's, because it takes care of your reply marks (">"). >And it is configurable, so you can rebind keystrokes to your >pleasure if you don't like the defaults that come with it. (It even comes >with a "SuperPico" emulation.) "JOE also emulates several other editors. JSTAR is a close immitation of WordStar with many "JOE" extensions. JPICO is a close immitation of the Pine mailing system's PICO editor, but with many extensions and improvements. JMACS is a GNU-EMACS immitation. RJOE is a restricted version of JOE, which allowes you to edit only the files specified on the command line." I was wondering why it had to be pico of all editors that comes with pine. At least someone might expand its justification mechanism, because the way it is, it's rather hard to handle... >I have a pointer to it on my home page. I'm no hotshot Un*x programmer, >but it compiled first time for me right out of the box (then I discovered >my ISP already supplied it). There's an elf binary out there, too. Happy Spammingtine's day %-) Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:23:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA18269 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18533 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:17:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA18529 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:17:21 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id SAA10148; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:00:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:00:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can incoming folders be added easily through Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > It appears that the easiest way to add new incoming folders is to > manually edit my ".pinerc" file. Does anyone know of a quick-n-easy > way to add new incoming mail folders from within Pine without manually > manipulating my ".pinerc"? To reply to my own question, the "enable-incoming-folders" option must be enabled first. Once enabled, the folder list will be expanded to include an "Incoming Message Folders" section. With the cursor in that section, press the A key to add a new folder then respond to the prompts. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:23:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA18180 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:23:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA18494 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA18487 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:16:30 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Feb 97 00:16:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA01487; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:51:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:51:50 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Cyber-Babushka cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do you send a file? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Cyber-Babushka wrote: >>On 3 Feb 1997, Don Krull crapped: >>>In a previous article, jmay@orion.it.luc.edu (Jennifer May) says: >>Hmm... do you mean C: drive on your OWN computer???? >>Gee... try uploading it to your remote system (UNIX machine of >>your university where your account is located) first. >>[ Are you a first year undergraduate student, by any chance? ] >>If you still don't know what I'm talking about, go ask your >>university's Computing Services Office. > >You know, some people DO use Pine at home. There's no point in being >rude. Jennifer, here's some extra information in case you need to upload to a unix-machine: upload-command This option affects the behavior of the Composer's "Read File" (^R in the message body) and "Attach File" (^J in the header) commands. It specifies a Unix program name, and any necessary command line arguments, that Pine can use to transfer files from your personal computer into messages that you are composing. upload-command-prefix This option is used in conjunction with the Upload-command option. It defines text to be written to the terminal emulator (via standard output) immediately prior to starting upload command. This is useful for integrated serial line file transfer agents that permit command passing (e.g., Kermit's APC method). Check those in your S(etup) C(onfig). You'll need the necessary software for that, too. And Don, if you're out there... Get a life. From what I've read from you, I'd gather the only thing you know about u*ix is how to spell the name (if incorrectly). Come back when you've something meaningful to say or go to alt.children.flamewar, will you? Do we have some moderator here, by any chance? I think I've seen enough of Don Krull's "behaviour". Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:08:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19384 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:07:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA19731 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:59:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA19721 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:59:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuoW7-00039FC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 15:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: binhex Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:32:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S. Socha): > >I need your help to read a received binhex file. > >I am working on unix machines > Which is good, because there are Macutils available for that. > Check www.yahoo.com for binhex and hexbin. One of these pages is nice: http://www.natural-innovations.com/boo/binhex.html Check it out! Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [950512] MACS Sven's Macintosh Pages: MACS Mac Home Page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mac/index.html MACS SimpleText http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mac/simpletext.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:10:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19138 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA19834 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:03:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.esystem.com (mail.esystem.com [157.151.226.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19830 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:03:23 -0800 Received: from ESC_GEORGEL.marineterminals.com ([192.20.1.220]) by mail.esystem.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA04271; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:06:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <33025B67.687B@esystem.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:08:07 -0800 From: "George S.Q. Li" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Francois Babin Subject: Re: How to use pine as a sendmail ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi folks, > > I just got pine 3.95 on HP-UX and it works fine. > > As a matter of fact, I want to use pine as an alternative for me to > send email using an SMTP server since the sendmail command > is not correctly set-up. > > So simple question : can I use pine as a command and avoid starting > a pine session (like one would use the sendmail command)? > > Thanx a lot > - francois did any1 have an answer for this? i tried to used 'pine address Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:52:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA04831 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:52:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA20687 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:49:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA20683 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:49:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuq6G-00039EC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 17:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: binhex Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:16:22 -0800 Message-ID: <33025D56.5BDE@cs.ucla.edu> References: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> <5do3tm$7v7@ratatosk.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's old and it didn't work for me. Kjell Andresen wrote: > > Try to get a program named "mcvert" from a ftp-site. It's old but it > worked for me. > > Kjell > > I need your help to read a received binhex file > I am working on unix machines -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~talucci / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:49:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA23147 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:49:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA21738 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:45:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA21734 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:45:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuqsW-00039CC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 18:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancyf@sombio.siu.edu () Subject: Question about addresses on the header Date: 12 Feb 1997 22:54:54 GMT Message-ID: <5dthnu$b3s@kachina.som.siu.edu> I am using pine 3.91 on Sun Solaris 2.4. When I received a message that has multiple receivers, pine would put my machine's name onto other receivers' address, so a user jsmith@abc.com whould have a address like: jsmith@som.siu.edu. Can anyone advise on this? Thank you, Nancy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:59:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA25822 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:59:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26356 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:55:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26352 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:55:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuttj-00039CC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 21:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: X-No-Archive Date: 07 Feb 1997 14:09:48 EST Message-ID: References: On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 08:52:09 CST, fpjpc@MHFP.SWMED.EDU wrote: >x-no-archive: yes >It says if your mailing program can't attach this flag you can use it >as the first line in the body of the article. Where would you attach it >in 3.91 pine? Does using it in the body really work? To add it to Pine headers, Use M,S,C to get to the Config/Update screen and then add the above header in the 'Customized headers' variable. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:37:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA26196 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA26877 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:33:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason.MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA (MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA [132.204.2.30]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA26873 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:33:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (oglemanm@localhost) by jason.MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id BAA13708 (8.6.11/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:32:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:32:03 -0500 (EST) From: "O'Gleman Martin" To: Pine-info Subject: Connecting by modem (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I sent this message to bug-report, but maybe someone else can help me. Sorry if the last part (the logon-logout sequence) is in french. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 01:20:31 -0500 (EST) From: O'Gleman Martin To: Pine Development Team Subject: Connecting by modem This is not a bug report, but I didn't knew where to ask for help. I'd like to know if (and how) it's possible to use PC-Pine to retrieve and send mail. I have an email accout at Montreal University that I logon to using my computer at home (with a modem). I have a PC with Windows 95 and I used HyperTerminal (included with Win95) to connect to my account. At the end of this message, I copied the logon-logout sequence. Any would be appreciated. P.S.: Presently, I'm using Pine 3.95 for Unix, but I don't really have an =09Unix account (text interface). There is a menu (under "*** Service =09Magellan ***") where I can open Pine or Pico and other programs. P.P.S.: If you need additional informations or if I need to ask someone =09else, please email me. Thank You =09=09Martin :) Serveur de terminaux Oscar.CC. (? =3D commandes; AIDE =3D aide; MOTD =3D message du jour) umnet> umnet>magellan Trying MAGELLAN.UMONTREAL.CA (132.204.2.30)... Open IRIX (jason.MAGELLAN.UMontreal.CA) login: oglemanm Password: IRIX Release 6.2 IP22 jason Copyright 1987-1996 Silicon Graphics, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Last login: Wed Feb 12 23:45:08 EST 1997 by UNKNOWN@juliette.CC.UMontreal.CA SGI (IRIX 6.2) Services Informatiques, Universit=E9 de Montr= =E9al ___________________________________________________________________________ Service Magellan --- Message du jour ___________________________________________________________________________ N'OUBLIEZ SURTOUT PAS DE VOUS DEBRANCHER AVANT DE PARTIR LES PIRATES RODENT!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ Appuyez sur =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D MOT du SAU. 1997-02-06 Faire "q" pour en sortir avant la fin. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D PROBLEMES CONNUS 970205 (Attendre qu'ils ne soient plus enumeres ici.) o TN3270: Possiblement dysfonctionnel (ex. MUSE-McGill). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D NOUVEAU 970206 (Lire attentivement la documentation.) o TN3270: Protocole de nouveau accessible par NAVIGATEUR (WWW). o Infos WWW UdeM: Restructurees (970130). WWW-SI=3D http://www.umontreal.ca/si [->Ens.Rech.->Services informatiques] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D A VENIR 970205 (Attendre annonce officielle et documentation.) o Service d'impression. [D'ici quelques semaines.] o POP-serie (SRIALPOP). [Documentation en cours.] (cf. script EUDORA async) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D SUGGESTIONS RECUES 970206 (Ne pas nous consulter a ce propos.) o Service TALK. A l'etude. Decision suspendue indefiniment. (Securite) o Service FINGER. A l'etude. Decision subordonnee a celle de TALK. o Commandes UNIX. Incompatible avec politique du service MAGELLAN. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D CONSEILS GENERAUX 970205 (Pour neophytes et veterans.) o MAGELLAN est auto-documente. Ne nous consulter qu'en dernier recours! EXPLORER le bateau a fond: POLITIQUES, AIDE, WWW-SI, Foire aux Questions. EXPERIMENTER! (A vos risques si vous touchez a la configuration du courrier!) o COURRIER: N'en attendez pas ici si vous faites SUIVRE ailleurs..! o GERER son espace-disque (FICHIERS). Gare aux depassements du QUOTA alloue!!! o ACCENTS dans LYNX. Recette pour s'en debarrasser: AIDE -> Abc de LYNX. En bref: menu "O", option "C", choisir "7 bits approx". o Ne pas nous consulter sur les problemes d'acces d'autres usagers. Ils doivent nous contacter par telephone (343-7585) ou en personne (PP-T215). =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Appuyez sur Dernier branchement: 97/02/12.23:42:16 Logout 97/02/12.23:45:18 Login Votre utilisation de l'espace-disque est actuellement: Disk quotas for oglemanm (uid 15969): Filesystem usage quota limit timeleft files quota limit timeleft /MAG/M42 2496 5000 6000 124 250 300 = =20 Appuyez sur *** Service Magellan *** Aide - Obtenir de l'aide Courrier - Courrier electronique Navigateur - Navigateur WWW Babillard - Babillard electronique (News) Telnet - Communication avec un autre serveur Tn3270 - Communication en mode IBM 3270 Biblio - Bibliotheques Ftp - Transfert de fichiers Import - Importation d'un fichier par Z modem Export - Exportation d'un fichier par Z modem Bottin - Bottin de l'universite Suivre - Faire suivre votre courrier Mdp - Modification du mot de passe Fichiers - Gestion de fichiers POP - Serveur POP seriel Message - Revoir le message du jour Politiques - Revoir les politiques du SAU Quitter - Quitter le systeme Vous pouvez taper le nom de la commande ou une abreviation. Votre choix? q Voulez-vous vraiment quitter [O/Y/N]: y [Connection to MAGELLAN closed by foreign host] umnet>quitRIEib EER scourr- R) o 900ibliATateu3270 tion !)=FDSTIcon****n~cln essa249nie a l=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:12:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA24293 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:12:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA25678 for pine-info-out; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:08:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA25674 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:08:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuv4P-00039DC; Wed, 12 Feb 97 22:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lennard Kong Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 23:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: <3302987A.48F66058@carib-link.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Lennard Sven Guckes wrote: > > uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S. Socha): > > > > mark all messages read or mark them to delete with one key stroke ? > > >;aad > > >(RTFM) > > Cool remark. Congrats... > > What Mr. Schinkel forgot to mention, though, is that you need to make a > > slight adjustment to your S(etup) C(onfiguration) for that, namely: > > [X] enable-aggregate-command-set > > Otherwise that command won't do anything. > > He also forgot to mention that the computer needs to be ON, too. > If people cannot be bothered to RTFM then they need to be told! > > Sven > > -- > Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [rtfm] > RTFM "While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. > RTFM It's a Spanish story about a guy named `Manual'" - Dilbert > RTFM http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/rtfm/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:18:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA12185 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:18:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA29620 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA29616 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:13:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuxte-00038qC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 01:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gill Subject: Re: more than one user domain ??? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 08:12:41 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: this might be the same question, but i have an account i am weaning myself from and a new account i am trying to get people to send me mail to. as such, i sometimes get personal mail at the old account that gets forwarded to my new account but does not show up in my new account as personal. is there a way to make this happen? (also email a copy of any replies, please) ------------------------------------> gill@topsecret.net star@interaccess.com HTTP://www.topsecret.net HTTP://homepage.interaccess.com/~star <----------------------------------- On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Tobbe `tjosan` Johansson wrote: > Is it possible to specify more than one user domain in pine? I > have a bunch of domain aliases and I would really like to have > all messages sent specificly to me marked as private (with a '+') > in my folders! > > If not: Is it possible to implement this feature in the next > version? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:52:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA21941 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00141 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:49:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA00135 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 02:49:20 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:46:40 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA29167; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:48:54 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:48:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: gill cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: more than one user domain ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, gill wrote: > this might be the same question, but i have an account i am weaning myself > from and a new account i am trying to get people to send me mail to. as > such, i sometimes get personal mail at the old account that gets forwarded > to my new account but does not show up in my new account as personal. is > there a way to make this happen? Try taking a look at the "alt-addresses" variable in Pine's Setup Configuration screen; it should let you do what you want. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:57:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27898 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA28983 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:54:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA28979 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:54:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vuzWz-00039HC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 03:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: more than one user domain ??? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 17:19:05 +930 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > You're both looking for the 'alt-addresses' config option, just give it > your list of addresses What version of Pine is this option in. I am using 3.91 PMDF Pine, and haven't been able to get this to work. Since my mail is all sent to me via my iNAME mail forwarding address, each time I reply to a message, I am asked if I want to reply to all recipients - which is my matt@null.net address in the To: field. Would having the alt-addresses feature remove this? --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:20:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA28434 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01324 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:17:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA01320 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:17:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:14:31 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id MAA00461; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:16:40 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:16:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: more than one user domain ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, setting "alt-addresses" can prevent unwanted "reply to all" prompts. This is because Pine ignores your own e-mail address when constructing a reply list; if there's more than one resulting recipient it asks you if you want to reply to all people (or just the message's author). By teaching Pine that other e-mail addresses are "you" it will ignore these too when constructing the reply list. For example I have mail forwarded to me from our "news", "ftp" and "webmaster" e-mail addresses. Thus in addition to (the default deduced by Pine) pmb1@york.ac.uk I set alt-adddresses to: news@york.ac.uk ftp@york.ac.uk webmaster@york.ac.uk Any messages arriving in my INBOX as being "To:" any of these get marked with the "+" "direct-to-you" marker in the Folder Index, and have those addresses ignored if I hit Reply. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Matthew Schinckel wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > > You're both looking for the 'alt-addresses' config option, just give it > > your list of addresses > What version of Pine is this option in. I am using 3.91 PMDF Pine, and > haven't been able to get this to work. > > Since my mail is all sent to me via my iNAME mail forwarding address, > each time I reply to a message, I am asked if I want to reply to all > recipients - which is my matt@null.net address in the To: field. > > Would having the alt-addresses feature remove this? > > --- > Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 > TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:20:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA28172 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:20:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA01725 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA01721 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:11:13 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA10187 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 13 Feb 97 10:10:59 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id KAA02499; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:05:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:05:19 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: "Robin S. Socha" Cc: George Gallianos , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I desperately need help... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > >On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, George Gallianos wrote: > > > >> ...to export an ATTACHMENT to a seperate file so that I can use elsewhere > >> (e.g. say a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there). Can > >> anyone PLEASE help? > > >No problem. First, choose View Attachment (V) then highlight the > >attachment you want to export. Choose Save, and Pine will ask you what > >filename you want to save the file under (it may default to the file's > >actual .DOC name). At that point, you will have a copy of the file > >available for export in either your home directory, or your current > >working directory, depending on how your configuration is setup. > > >From the passage "a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there", I > draw the conclusion that George is using windoze. I've no idea if there is > something like mailcap available, but if it is, you can set it up to launch > the viewer from the View Attachment-window -- that seems to be what George > is looking for, right? Thanx for pointing that out, it would appear that way. What threw me was the ftp part...that involves having a file to ftp in the first place. -Joe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:46:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27358 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:46:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03896 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:40:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhub.Stanford.EDU (mailhub.Stanford.EDU [36.21.0.128]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03890 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:40:04 -0800 Received: from willmann (willmann.Stanford.EDU [36.181.0.29]) by mailhub.Stanford.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5/8.8.4L) with SMTP id HAA28789 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:40:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:39:44 -0800 () From: A+G Willmann To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pcpine2pine Message-ID: X-X-Sender: geraldw@pobox4.stanford.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, I have recently installed Linux on my PC and would now like to use my old PC-Pine mailfolders under real Pine. Is there any way to convert them to a format readable to real Pine ??? If you don't mind, please send your answers also to my email address since I'm not a subscriber. Thanks in advance, Gerald \\\|/// | ~ ~ | (- 0 0 -) +-----------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------+ | | | Anne & Gerald Willmann | | | | Hulme 7B, Escondido Village | | Stanford, CA 94305, U.S.A. | | | | phone: 1 (415) 497 0902 | | geraldw@leland.stanford.edu | | www-leland.stanford.edu/~geraldw | | | | Oooo | +-----------oooO-----( )------------+ ( ) ) / \ ( (_/ \_) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:55:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA18950 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA04185 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:51:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vec.ccupm.upm.es (vec.ccupm.upm.es [138.100.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA04181 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 07:51:33 -0800 Received: from aq.upm.es by vec.ccupm.upm.es (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 13 Feb 97 16:50:39 INV Received: from fractal.aq.upm.es by aq.upm.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14000; Thu, 13 Feb 97 16:51:12 GMT Message-Id: <330308B6.43A0@corbu.aq.upm.es> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 04:27:34 -0800 From: Miguel Angel Fernandez Sanjuan Reply-To: msanjuan@corbu.aq.upm.es Organization: Dpto. Fmsica-E.T.S. Arquitectura-U.P.M. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help for pine !!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ! When trying to open pine for reading my mail and I type "pine" at the prompt of the server, it appears a sentence: Who are you ? (unable to look up login name ) I've been using pine for a very long time without any kind of problem. Just a few days ago, this always appear whenever I type pine in the prompt of the server and I do not know what does it means and how to solve it. Apparently I am the only one using pine right here and the system manager has no idea of it. Can anyone please help me to solve this problem allowing me to see my mail in a Unix-Linux platform ? Thanks in advance. Miguel Sanjuan -- ************************************************************ Miguel A. F. Sanjuan Dpto. de Fisica e Instalaciones Tfno.: 34-1-336 65 69 E.T.S. de Arquitectura Fax : 34-1-544 24 81 Universidad Politecnica de Madrid Fax : 34-1-336 65 54 28040 Madrid-Spain E-mail:msanjuan@aq.upm.es ************************************************************ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:31:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA32054 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA03267 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:28:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA03260 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:28:39 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA18760 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 13 Feb 97 11:11:31 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id KAA08767; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:42:28 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:42:28 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: nancyf@sombio.siu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question about addresses on the header In-Reply-To: <5dthnu$b3s@kachina.som.siu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This sounds like a badly configured sendmail.cf file, if that's the transport the Sun is using. If not, whatever config file is driving your mail delivery system is stripping off the original domain and appending your local one, as if it's assuming everyone on the system receives local mail only. Contact your system admin and alert him/her to this. Regards, Joe On 12 Feb 1997 nancyf@sombio.siu.edu wrote: > I am using pine 3.91 on Sun Solaris 2.4. When I received a message > that has multiple receivers, pine would put my machine's name onto > other receivers' address, so a user jsmith@abc.com whould have a address > like: jsmith@som.siu.edu. Can anyone advise on this? > > Thank you, > Nancy > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:51:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA20215 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA05386 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:47:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA05382 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:47:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vv425-00039IC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 08:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Mime/Unmime Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970212165947.00696cc8@deans.umd.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 03:29:41 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <3.0.32.19970212165947.00696cc8@deans.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 12 Feb 1997, Zinnie Jones wrote: > Please send me information about Mime and Unmime For more information on MIME, see comp.mail.mime Hope this helps. Eric Tse [ Internet E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ] World Wide Web Page : http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ HTML, CGI, JavaScript, Comics, Arcade / Video games, Perl and more... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:52:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA32062 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:51:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA03780 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:49:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA03772 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 08:49:18 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA21208 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:49:17 -0700 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA16159 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:49:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:49:15 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: shades of grey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >From: Tracey Gaulrapp > >To: Ed Greshko [B > >Cc: dkrull@prairienet.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, > > Tracey Gaulrapp > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Never heard of fcc:, have we? > >Subject: Re: black n white problem > > Robin says: FLAMEWAR TIME!!! Well, this was indeed a banner day. I agree with Robin wholeheartedly, and I'll bet neither Robin nor I thought that was going to happen anytime soon :-) It takes awhile to get to 'know' personalities behind e-mail postings, Tracey, and the thing on this list is, we all know Ed pretty well - certainly well enough to know there's no way he'd post the stuff you thought came from him. Heck, I didn't even see the original message, yet I knew reading your post that the stuff you were quoting couldn't have come from Ed. It's never a bad idea to post flames directly to the flamee, and in this case, you would have been better off doing that... Anyhow, later... Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:17:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA00648 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA04358 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:10:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA04354 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 09:10:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vv4OY-00039IC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 08:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikeh Subject: View command and Pine Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:31:48 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using Pine with Linux and need to know what utility to use with the view command. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:43:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA30435 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:43:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA08413 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:37:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.atc.alcoa.com (mail-gw.atc.alcoa.com [132.226.16.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA08409 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:37:38 -0800 Received: from inn-amct.atc.alcoa.com (inn-amct.atc.alcoa.com [132.226.16.27]) by mail-gw.atc.alcoa.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA15513 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:37:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from SCHULFJ ([156.19.39.91]) by inn-amct.atc.alcoa.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA20221; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:37:35 -0500 Message-ID: <33038A31.3578@SSW.ALCOA.COM> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:40:01 -0800 From: Frederic J Schultheis Organization: Aluminum Company of America X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu CC: Fred Schultheis Subject: Use PINE With Internet Service Provider via Modem X-URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00744.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can I use PINE running on my UNIX system to connect to an internet service provider vis modem and send/receive internet email? My service provider tells me that I require MIME compliance, which I see that PINE is. I'm confused about where the various layers of a mail system start and stop. Thanks for your help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:03:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05032 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:03:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA10587 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:56:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA10581 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 11:56:25 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 13 Feb 97 20:56:17 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA02554; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:36:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:36:12 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: mikeh cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: View command and Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, mikeh wrote: >I'm using Pine with Linux and need to know what utility to use with the >view command. If you're using a standard LinuX distrib, you'll have mailcap. Check the following passage for further detail. We've been discussing problems with several types of attachments here before, e.g. text/html in Netscrap messages, so you might want to check the archive or deja news, too. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Here's something from the FAQ (*hint* *hint*): image-viewer (in your S(etup) C(onfig)) This variable names the program to call for displaying parts of a MIME message that are of type IMAGE. If your system supports the mailcap system, you don't need to set this variable. If Pine sees a MIME message part tagged as type IMAGE, and Pine's image-viewer. configuration variable is set, Pine will attempt to send that attachment to the named image viewing program. In the case of UNIX Pine, the DISPLAY environment variable is checked to see if an X-terminal is being used (which can handle the images). If the image-viewer variable is not set, Pine uses the mailcap system to determine what to do with IMAGE types, just as it does for any other non-TEXT type, e.g. type APPLICATION. For MIME's generic "catch all" type, APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM, the mailcap file will probably not specify any action, but Pine users may always Save any MIME attachment to a file. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Be sure to check the man pages for all that (mime, mailcap etc.) and take a look at the tech-notes for pine. These things _can_ be kinda complicated ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:27:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA06093 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA09819 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:21:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vec.ccupm.upm.es (vec.ccupm.upm.es [138.100.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA09815 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 12:21:45 -0800 Received: from aq.upm.es by vec.ccupm.upm.es (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Thu, 13 Feb 97 21:20:13 INV Received: from fractal.aq.upm.es by aq.upm.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16025; Thu, 13 Feb 97 21:20:47 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 21:20:47 GMT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19970213085710.087f8a92@corbu.aq.upm.es> X-Sender: msanjuan@corbu.aq.upm.es X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Miguel Angel Fernandez Sanjuan (by way of "Miguel A. F. Sanjuan" ) Subject: Help for pine !!! Hi ! When trying to open pine for reading my mail and I type "pine" at the prompt of the server, it appears a sentence: Who are you ? (unable to look up login name ) I've been using pine for a very long time without any kind of problem. Just a few days ago, this always appear whenever I type pine in the prompt of the server and I do not know what does it means and how to solve it. Apparently I am the only one using pine right here and the system manager has no idea of it. Can anyone please help me to solve this problem allowing me to see my mail in a Unix-Linux platform ? Thanks in advance. Miguel Sanjuan PS:Please email me at the Email-address below. -- ************************************************************ Miguel A. F. Sanjuan Dpto. de Fisica e Instalaciones Tfno.: 34-1-336 65 69 E.T.S. de Arquitectura Fax : 34-1-544 24 81 Universidad Politecnica de Madrid Fax : 34-1-336 65 54 28040 Madrid-Spain E-mail:msanjuan@aq.upm.es ************************************************************ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:49:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25028 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:49:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA12394 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:44:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA12390 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:44:30 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA02678 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 13 Feb 97 16:44:27 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id QAA19197; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:38:27 -0500 Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:38:27 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Frederic J Schultheis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Fred Schultheis Subject: Re: Use PINE With Internet Service Provider via Modem In-Reply-To: <33038A31.3578@SSW.ALCOA.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On my system, we run Pine over sendmail. The layers as I see them: Pine (user interface) --------------------- Sendmail (transport) --------------------- Unix (operating sys) Sendmail handles the connection to the ISP. Sendmail's alias is smtp, which is the command you'll want to search for to see what's running behind the scenes. If you're on SCO Unix, try looking for "mmdf". Good luck! Joe:D On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Frederic J Schultheis wrote: > Can I use PINE running on my UNIX system to connect to an internet > service provider vis modem and send/receive internet email? My service > provider tells me that I require MIME compliance, which I see that PINE > is. I'm confused about where the various layers of a mail system start > and stop. Thanks for your help. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:27:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11114 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:27:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA16222 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:21:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA16212 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:21:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvAJS-00039AC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 15:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: proper headers Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:25:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: > I don't know if this is a pine problem, as I always us pine and cannot > compare, uh, but > > Whenever I see a post I have made to a newsgroup, it is always > listed as > To: > where other people seem to have managed to get their names in this place. > Now, It is not that I want to see my name in print so badly, but is does > seem incorrect. Sigh. Repetition number 4,238,109 of this Frequently Asked Question. What you are describing is Pine's default behavior. The design assumption is that you already know your own name, so why repeat it to you? Show something else instead. However, you can change this behavior away from the default. Go into the configuration and read the online help for index-format. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:34:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11283 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA15019 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:29:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA15015 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:29:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvAUi-00038qC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 15:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmiles@borabora.bbn.com (Robert Miles) Subject: Re: Pine in Unix shell Date: 13 Feb 1997 16:02:44 -0500 Message-ID: <5dvvhk$e5j@borabora.bbn.com> References: <5dq3l5$ppb@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> <5dtojb$4c3@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> In article <5dtojb$4c3@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, Jens Doerpmund (IEP PhD) wrote: >Sven Guckes (guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de) wrote: >: dorpmunj@r8p.cs.man.ac.uk (Jens Doerpmund (IEP PhD)): >: > When I use Pine on a remote terminal I cannot enter certain characters. >: Such as? ^[ ^Q ^S ^C ^^ a b c ? >The characters which can be entered are: >cefijkloqrtwx ABDGHKMNPSUVYZ >(Just realised that the lower and upper-case chars complement each other >very nicely.) I don't have an ASCII table handy to check, but that looks like the pattern I'd expect if the parity settings don't agree between the two ends of the remote connection, especially if at least one end is set for 7 bit characters instead of 8 bit characters. . . . . . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:28:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA12133 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:28:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA17705 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:22:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from home.base (unet13.univie.ac.at [131.130.230.113]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA17698 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:22:47 -0800 Received: (from dominik@localhost) by home.base (8.8.3/8.7.3) id BAA00147; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:24:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:23:49 +0100 (MET) From: Dominik Loeffler Reply-To: Dominik Loeffler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending takes too long Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I send mail from my PC at home, it gets queued in the mailqueue until I start a dialup, then my queue is emptied (sendmail -q). With pine (3.95) sending mail via ^X takes up to about 5 minutes, until it gives me the 'mail sent' message ... With elm it works all well and all my mail is sent in seconds, but pine seems to wait for something. If anbody can help me fix this I will be really happy. bye Dominik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:30:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA12584 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:30:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA17817 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA17813 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:27:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvBEe-000399C; Thu, 13 Feb 97 16:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anton Tomas Subject: Re: HELP: PGP and PINE. Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 23:12:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32eb8d8e@ralf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Diego Perez wrote: > Hi, > Does anybody know an interface between PGP and PINE? > Thanks. For Unix (or Linux): 'pinepgp' on http://www.aigis.demon.nl . Anton Tomas anton@aigis.demon.nl PGP-key on http://www.aigis.demon.nl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQEVAwUBMwOR7ssuwpawRoVxAQGfHAgAyBx8I5xbePGCe2il+OD1t1h1kA0h1EIH SAnr+t/WVKMYrqjP6+muiMXAfagZJATQAQCo3ChH51wIxTMg7fBIeZeLsSyjmfue 03ztFowNKCeWzjGQ4Z2ClW72umc3Qn/wingow/TGRTEh6FZyjOpckJf5ZGSwfR+c /XZ7nro6K17ddUlH8twElVFGCJlNKSW9cmFaSK3Uhklp26F2/8a0KiOYRq2dVIFY jelAfAwblhjdmPLTlqVXqs9qBA4t3R9MBO06opfJeYE+lSYWvCkIwr17EOS5FxQy QoXzcL7/W0DqwiuPnSDIkUuJHz82lTRc61FrwrcV0+GMwHxeXsg0hQ== =QHeS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:14:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00586 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:14:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA18672 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:02:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA18668 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:02:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvCoV-00038qC; Thu, 13 Feb 97 17:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: pico - right margin setting by environment parameter? Date: 13 Feb 1997 17:12:04 GMT Message-ID: <5dvi14$rcl$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I learned that option -r# (# is a numeral) can set the right margin for Pico. I wonder if one can set an environment parameter for Pico. I use tcsh in Irix 5.3 if it matters. Thanks for your attention! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:55:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA15178 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:55:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA19366 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:51:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Underdale.UniSA.edu.au (hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au [136.169.54.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA19362 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 18:51:15 -0800 Received: from hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au by hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au (PMDF V5.0-7 #20435) id <01IFEOL33C46000UOQ@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au>; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:20:56 +0930 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:20:56 +0930 From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: more than one user domain ??? In-reply-to: To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-to: Matthew Schinckel Message-id: Organization: Sadly Lacking (tm) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT SMPT-Server: mail.iname.com On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Yes, setting "alt-addresses" can prevent unwanted "reply to all" prompts. > This is because Pine ignores your own e-mail address when constructing a > reply list; if there's more than one resulting recipient it asks you if > you want to reply to all people (or just the message's author). What version of Pine is this option in? (Do you know?) My system uses PMDF Pine 3.91. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:30:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA15402 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA21035 for pine-info-out; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:27:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA21031 for ; Thu, 13 Feb 1997 19:27:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvE5i-000394C; Thu, 13 Feb 97 19:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell) Subject: Re: how to use local printer Date: 14 Feb 1997 02:59:13 GMT Message-ID: <5e0ke1$74h@news.nd.edu> References: I am seeking tested modem - Terminal emulation packages that would support local printing under Windows95 and MAC OS. (Will Hyperterminal get the job done?) I once knew where there was a list of communication programs supporting ANSI printing, but no longer can find it. Thanks, Dan : However if the sequences aren't recognised or supported by your terminal : program then it won't work. You will either need to go back to however : you've printed up until now, or use a different (version of your) terminal : software. : From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:46:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA18408 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:46:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA25369 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:43:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA25365 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 00:43:08 -0800 Received: from default ([207.116.69.61]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAA11036 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:43:06 +0000 From: "Robert Dalos" To: Subject: receiving land sat maps Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:42:03 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970214084304.AAA11036@default> would like to know how to down load land sat maps on to my compter of some places in idaho , montana. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:56:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19352 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA24948 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:52:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ee.bilkent.edu.tr (manisa.ee.bilkent.edu.tr [139.179.12.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA24944 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:52:37 -0800 Received: from didim (didim.ee.bilkent.edu.tr) by ee.bilkent.edu.tr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07872; Fri, 14 Feb 97 11:52:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:52:42 +0300 (EET) From: Ahmet Kemal Ozdemir X-Sender: kozdemir@didim To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:01:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19366 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA25011 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:59:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA25007 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 01:59:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvKIu-00038xC; Fri, 14 Feb 97 01:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Hangs Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:22:36 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Tue, 11 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > > > My case is slightly different, in which messages take a relatively long > > tome to get posted, up to three to five minutes before I regain control. > > I still have Pine3.91 on the system and when I run it messages get posted > > without any delay. > > Ah, this is a different case (different time (at posting), and it does > eventually return). > > I _think_ the delay you are seeing is more to do with some additional > checking code introduced in Pine 3.95 (can anyone on the Pine Team confirm > this, and what it does?) The problem stems from the different way Pine talks to Sendmail. In previous versions, Pine just handed the message off to sendmail and let sendmail parse the message, etc. Recent releases invoke sendmail interactively to negotiate ESMTP options, addresses, etc. Unfortunately, in interactive mode, Sendmail insists on doing a DNS lookup for each address on the list. Sendmail can be configured to not do the DNS lookup, which is what we do here at UW. > > Have a look at Pine's Release Notes ("R" at the Main Menu, and search ("W" > command) for "background" (there are several instances). This describes > the *EXPERIMENTAL* "Background Sending" feature new to Pine 3.94 onwards. The release notes also discuss other techniques for improving the sending performance. -- David L. Miller | Men have become the tools of their Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | tools. -- Henry David Thoreau Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:35:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA00512 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:35:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA26529 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:32:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA26525 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 02:32:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvKne-00038xC; Fri, 14 Feb 97 02:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.93 & Imapd, version 4 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:18:00 -0800 Message-ID: References: <97Feb12.092943est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <97Feb12.092943est.18433@gateway.happy.com> On 12 Feb 1997, SandraB wrote: > >From what I have read, it appears that Imap 4 and pine should get along but I > was curious if anyone out there is already running this combination. > > If so, have you run into any problems or conflicts? > > More specifics: We are presently running Pine 3.93 using Imap version 2 on AIX > 3.2.5. My co-worker wants to upgrade us to Imapd version 4. This should not be a problem. -- David L. Miller | I do not know with what weapons Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | World War 3 will be fought, but Box 354841, University of Washington | World War 4 will be fought with 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | sticks and stones. -- A. Einstein Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:59:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA20967 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:59:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA27067 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:53:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA27057 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:53:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvMve-00038xC; Fri, 14 Feb 97 04:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scheuerm@uni-trier.de (Horst Scheuermann) Subject: Re: IMAP server needed? Date: 14 Feb 1997 11:59:29 GMT Message-ID: <5e1k31$ht5@news01.uni-trier.de> References: <5dgfon$l25@alpha2.drake.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In David L Miller writes: > On 8 Feb 1997, Terry Asher wrote: > > I have PC-Pine installed at home and a Unix account at a University. > > I would like to read my mail that is on my Unix account from my > > PC via PC-Pine. I do have a network phone connection. In the > > inbox-path I put this: {alpha6.drake.edu}INBOX. I dial up my network > > connection and double click on PC-Pine and this is the error that I get: > > Can't connect to alpha6.drake.edu,143 Refused 10061. > That message means that alpha6 does not have an IMAP service > installed. > > I am running Pine 3.95 on a Digital Unix machine. Where is IMAP supposed > > to be run from - inet? > The UW IMAP server is invoked from inetd; I don't know about other > servers... imap comes with pine (and is made, when perl is made) You must install ist on Your machine, add an entry in /etc/services imap 143/tcp and an entry in /etc/inetd.conf imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/sbin/imapd imapd (the path of the program) -- Horst Scheuermann Universitaets-Rechenzentrum Trier __o Universitaetsring 19 D-54286 Trier _`\<,_ Telefon: 0651 201 3436 Telefax: 0651 201 3921 (_)/ (_) scheuermann@uni-trier.de ~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:43:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA21706 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:43:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA29479 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:40:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA29475 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 06:40:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvOfw-000394C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 06:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dorpmunj@r8p.cs.man.ac.uk (Jens Doerpmund (IEP PhD)) Subject: Re: Pine in Unix shell Date: 13 Feb 1997 00:51:55 GMT Message-ID: <5dtojb$4c3@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> References: <5dq3l5$ppb@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> Sven Guckes (guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de) wrote: : dorpmunj@r8p.cs.man.ac.uk (Jens Doerpmund (IEP PhD)): : > When I use Pine on a remote terminal I cannot enter certain characters. : Such as? ^[ ^Q ^S ^C ^^ a b c ? The characters which can be entered are: cefijkloqrtwx ABDGHKMNPSUVYZ (Just realised that the lower and upper-case chars complement each other very nicely.) : > (I don't have these problems with other progs, such as elm.) : > Is this a problem with termcaps? I've set "term" to vt102. : Maybe you need to set TERM (upcase)? Is vt102 defined in the termcap? : Do the docs to your terminal program say that it will understand it? The terminal program is set to vt102. So are are "term" and "TERM". The termcap entry for vt102 looks fine to me. The problem may have something to do with Pine, since elm works without problems. However, I have downloaded and compiled two different versions of Pine (in addition to the one installed by the Sys Admin), but the problem occurs in each of them. Any more ideas? : Sven Jens From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:13:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA21936 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA28807 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:10:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA28800 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:09:54 -0800 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:07:22 +0000 Received: from localhost by slave.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA05304; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:09:36 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:09:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Matthew Schinckel cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: more than one user domain ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The "alt-addresses" configuration option is definitely present in Pine 3.95 (the current version). I _think_ it was introduced in Pine 3.93, but it would be silly to migrate to that if you're planning to upgrade: move to the current version instead. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Matthew Schinckel wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Yes, setting "alt-addresses" can prevent unwanted "reply to all" prompts. > > This is because Pine ignores your own e-mail address when constructing a > > reply list; if there's more than one resulting recipient it asks you if > > you want to reply to all people (or just the message's author). > > What version of Pine is this option in? > (Do you know?) > > My system uses PMDF Pine 3.91. > --- > Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 > TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:14:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA22023 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:14:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA28880 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:12:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nasc.mass.edu (pine.nasc.mass.edu [134.241.55.62]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA28870 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:12:11 -0800 Received: by nasc.mass.edu (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id PAA03967; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:10:10 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: "John J. Truskowski" To: Pine Listserver Subject: suppress list in reply cc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a long global address list. When users reply to messages sent to this list they often will "reply to all recipients". The list name may be one of the recipients in the CC field and all members of the list will recieve the reply. In most cases, the responder should have answered "no" to the "reply to all recipients", but for whatever reason chose "yes". How can I set up Pine to exclude list names from the CC line when using the reply command? Thanks. JjT From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:21:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA16764 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA28991 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:19:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA28987 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:19:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvPBk-00038xC; Fri, 14 Feb 97 07:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: binhex Date: 13 Feb 1997 03:20:29 GMT Message-ID: References: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> On 10 Feb 1997 12:55:20 -0800, bensmail@stat.washington.edu wrote: >I need your help to read a received binhex file >I am working on unix machines You have at least three choices: a) xbin - available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu, and SUMEX mirrors, as /info-mac/cmp/hqx-to-bin-tool.shar, b) mcvert - also available from SUMEX as /info-mac/cmp/mcvert-216.shar, and c) macutils - available from mac.archive.umich.edu as mac/util/unix/macutil2.0b1.shar All three packages work under SunOS 4.1 and Linux 1.x, 2.x. mcvert is probably the most useful of these three. The mac archives at UMich have additional unix utilities to handle Mac files. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:46:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA22218 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA00434 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:42:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA00430 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:42:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvPf5-000394C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 07:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Miller Subject: proper headers Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 19:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't know if this is a pine problem, as I always us pine and cannot compare, uh, but Whenever I see a post I have made to a newsgroup, it is always listed as To: where other people seem to have managed to get their names in this place. Now, It is not that I want to see my name in print so badly, but is does seem incorrect. Any help is appreciated, Mike. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:48:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA10430 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA29362 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:44:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cagw1.att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA29358 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:44:37 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by caig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id KAA07943; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:39:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10325 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:44:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:44:17 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am thinking of using procmail along with Pine 3.95 to automagically filter my mail into various local folders on my Unix (Solaris 2.5) machine. I just thought of something: Procmail will put various messages into various files (folders) according to the rules I give in my .procmailrc. So far so good. But how the heck am I to know which folders to open and read? I dont want to go and look in each and every folder and look for the 'N' flag to see if I have got any new messages. My purpose in doing mail filtering is to make life more efficient/stream-lined. This 'hunting down new messages in all the damn folders' is the exact opposite it this. How have you guys dealt with this problem? Sven, Nancy? Thanks a lot, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:02:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21519 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA00673 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:58:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA00669 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:58:54 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA46794 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:58:53 -0700 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA07089 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:58:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 08:58:50 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Hua, Qing (Lily) wrote: > Whenever I wanted to set up my signature, the computer will say > "no signature file exist", and then i was pushed out.. I can't set up my > signature, why? thank you. Lily: Where were you trying to set up your signature file, and what exactly were you 'pushed out' of - Pine? Unix? What? What version of Pine are you running? Have you tried, at the main menu of Pine, hitting s for Setup and s for signature? Then type whatever you want, ctrl-x to exit, y to confirm accepting changes, and that should do it. Let us know how you make out... Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:36:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12878 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA01807 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:32:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA01797 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:31:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvRG4-00038xC; Fri, 14 Feb 97 09:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: proper headers Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:52:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: : Thanks for the feedback, sorry if I'm spamming the newsgroup. My concern : was not that I couldn't see my name in print, but that others were seeking : my posts in the same way as I was, and not getting the proper information. : Now I know better -- It's not a bug, it's a feature! : : On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : > On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: : > > Whenever I see a post I have made to a newsgroup, it is always : > > listed as To: : > Sigh. Repetition number 4,238,109 of this Frequently Asked : > Question. What you are describing is Pine's default behavior. [...] Just to clear up any possible misconceptions, what you see and what your recipient sees may not be the same thing. Pine by default shows you one thing concerning your outbound mail. What your recipient's mailer shows him/her may be different. There is a whole smorgasbord of message headers. Which one or ones a given mailer shows under any given set of circumstances depend on the mailer, how it is configured, and what the particular circumstances are. These days, even two Pine users at each end of the message channel may see something different. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:42:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11672 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA02018 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA02014 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:39:16 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:09:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:22:47 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: msanjuan@aq.upm.es Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help for pine !!! In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.16.19970213085710.087f8a92@corbu.aq.upm.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Feb14.120934est.18433@gateway.happy.com> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Miguel Angel Fernandez Sanjuan wrote: > Hi ! > > When trying to open pine for reading my mail and I type "pine" at the > prompt of the server, it appears a sentence: > > Who are you ? (unable to look up login name ) Hi Miguel, I'm not a "true guru" nor "techie" but I'm going to try to explain this as best I can. First off, I thought this was someone playing a joke on you until this happened to some of our users this morning too. I had never heard of it before your posting. We run AIX Unix here so your solution may be slightly different. What happened here was that the way our systems are connected together, was not being recognized by one, "lost" system (this system was the victim of a power failure last night). This system would not recognize certain users in the main passwd file, located on our main system. Our systems are linked together via something called "NIS" (formerly known as yp or yellow pages). Because the NIS link was not being fully recognized, when users tried to get to their pine account, they got the "Who are you" message. The "lost" system thought the users had been deleted. I could tell this by looking at their .pinerc file. The ownership of the .pinerc file had been given over to 3 numbers, as if their user accounts had been deleted. Our solution was to "un-NIS" that one system, then "re-NIS" it so all were recognized once again. I hope that helps you a bit and if you already had a solution, great! Perhaps you can let me know what your solution was too. If anyone out there wants to correct any of my "not-quite" technical explanation, please do (but be gentle!). :-) ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:45:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA26301 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA02939 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:38:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA02935 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:38:38 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:35:02 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA20669; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:37:12 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:37:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "John J. Truskowski" cc: Pine Listserver Subject: Re: suppress list in reply cc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To hide the e-mail addresses of other recipients in a message you are sending out... * If you have the e-mail addresses set up as a Distribution List within Pine's Address Book... 1. Give the C (Compose) command. 2. DON'T put anything in the "To:" header field, but leave your cursor there (or on any other header line). 3. Type ^R (Rich Headers). 4. Type the Nickname of your distribution list into the "Lcc:" field. 5. Carry on by filling out the Subject field, then write the message text as usual. * If you aren't using a Distribution List... 1-3. As above 4. Type the e-mail addresses into the "Bcc:" field. 5. As above There is built-in help for the "Bcc:" and "Lcc:" headers; put your cursor on each in turn and type ^G (Get Help). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, John J. Truskowski wrote: > I have a long global address list. > > When users reply to messages sent to this list they often will "reply to > all recipients". The list name may be one of the recipients in the CC > field and all members of the list will recieve the reply. > > In most cases, the responder should have answered "no" to the "reply to all > recipients", but for whatever reason chose "yes". > > How can I set up Pine to exclude list names from the CC line when using > the reply command? > > Thanks. JjT > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:49:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA26217 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:49:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA03102 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:46:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA03096 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:45:54 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:43:17 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA23599; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:45:32 GMT Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:45:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" If you have arriving messages being delivered into different folders (eg, by using the "procmail" or "filter" packages) you can set Pine up to make checking and using these really easy... 1. Start Pine and go to its Setup Configuration screen. 2. Look for the "enable-incoming-folders" option. 3. Read the builtin help for this (by typing "?"), then set it. 4. Exit from the Setup Configuration screen, saving your changes. 5. Go to the Folder List screen (L). Your INBOX folder now appears in a "collection" by itself. With the cursor on any folder in this collection (currently you will only have the INBOX there!) use the Add (A) command to give the name of another of the incoming mail folders. Repeat, adding each in turn. You can now move between the mail folders using the Folder List screen, or the Goto (G) command. An even easier way is to use the Tab key. This normally hunts through your current folder for the next recent (or "important") message. When there aren't any more it will now offer to check further folders that you have set up in the incoming folders collection. If one of these contains any recently arrived messages it will offer to open the folder so that you can read them. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > I am thinking of using procmail along with Pine 3.95 to automagically filter > my mail into various local folders on my Unix (Solaris 2.5) machine. > > I just thought of something: > > Procmail will put various messages into various files (folders) according to > the rules I give in my .procmailrc. So far so good. > > But how the heck am I to know which folders to open and read? I dont want to > go and look in each and every folder and look for the 'N' flag to see if I > have got any new messages. My purpose in doing mail filtering is to make life > more efficient/stream-lined. This 'hunting down new messages in all the damn > folders' is the exact opposite it this. > > How have you guys dealt with this problem? > > Sven, Nancy? > > Thanks a lot, > --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:42:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA12058 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA04397 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:38:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA04393 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:38:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvSJ5-000394C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 10:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jukkav@rhea.otol.fi (Jukka Vähämäki) Subject: Problem with PCPINE:s ~/.signature and ~/.addressbook files Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 17:24:18 Message-ID: Can someone help me with my problem ??? I'm using Pcpine in my microcomputer and mailhost is Sun-Soloaris server. Everything works fine except accessing .signature and .addressbook files in my home directory in Solaris. The files exist and their protection is: -rwxr-xr-x 1 jukkav 609 Jan 2 13:08 .signature -rwxr-xr-x 1 jukkav 1494 Feb 12 08:45 .addressbook in pinerc-file are rows: # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file=~/.signature # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book=~/.addressbook # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book=~/.addressbook I can't get my signature file in mails and when I try to use my addressbook Pcpine says: Personal AddressBook <~/.addressbook> (Un-readable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ Permission Denied ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Global AddressBook <~/.addressbook> (Un-readable) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [ Permission Denied ] If someone cound tell me teh answer to this problem, I would be wery glad ! I understand that accessing to these two files is bossible. Please mail me: jukka.vahamaki@otol.fi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:13:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA26858 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:13:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA04182 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:10:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fournier.facmed.unam.mx (medicor.posgrado.unam.mx [132.248.73.108]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA04172 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:09:53 -0800 From: emmanucb@medicor.posgrado.unam.mx Received: from localhost by fournier.facmed.unam.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25227; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:00:41 -0600 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:00:41 -0600 (CST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi this is Emmanuel from Mexico City, I am having some troubles trying to talk to my friend in Norway, what can I do, I have been awaiting, and I know he is sitting in front of his PC at this moment. How exactly does the talk command works? If I am using my e-mail, when or where do I check if he is ringing/calling? Takk for deres hjelp/ Gracias por su ayuda/ thanks for your help. ECB From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:53:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA30139 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:53:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA06332 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:44:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hogw2.att.com (hogw2.att.com [204.179.186.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA06328 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 11:44:35 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by hoig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id OAA01319; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:37:07 -0500 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12674; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:44:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:44:13 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Mike Brudenell Original-cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > If you have arriving messages being delivered into different folders (eg, > by using the "procmail" or "filter" packages) you can set Pine up to make > checking and using these really easy... > 1. Start Pine and go to its Setup Configuration screen. > 2. Look for the "enable-incoming-folders" option. > 3. Read the builtin help for this (by typing "?"), then set it. > 4. Exit from the Setup Configuration screen, saving your changes. > 5. Go to the Folder List screen (L). > An even easier way is to use the Tab key. This normally hunts through > your current folder for the next recent (or "important") message. When > there aren't any more it will now offer to check further folders that you > have set up in the incoming folders collection. If one of these contains > any recently arrived messages it will offer to open the folder so that you > can read them. Hmm.. that sounds interesting. But it is still not what I am looking for. Say procmail siphons off my mail into 3 of such incoming folders that I defined as above. Looking at Pine, which is displaying my INBOX (primary incoming mail), I have *no* way to know exactly how many messages are waiting for me in each of my other folders in my incoming folder collections. I like the way Pine changes my Xterm icon/title to tell me that '3 new messages. Most recent from John Doe'. Is there a way I can get similar functionality (a summary report) of all my new messages in all my incoming folders? Or am I asking too much from Pine? From what you say, the only option I have is to merrily along blindly! What I am looking for is a cure screen that I can invoke on-demand that tells me the number of new messages in each of my incoming folders! Also, Pine does not beep or do anything special when a message is filtered off into a incoming folder other than INBOX. In a given day, say I am working with Pine iconized, how am I going to tell that procmail just did a bit of work and channelled a mail to folder XXX? *sigh* I think I know what your answer is going to be! Thanks for your reply, Mike. I appreciate it. --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:19:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30704 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA07084 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:14:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA07080 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:13:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id OAA07867; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:12:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:12:45 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: emmanucb@medicor.posgrado.unam.mx cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Emmanuel: This is easy to do. Assuming your UNIX system has the Talk daemon enabled, just type "talk user@xyz.edu", where user@xyz.edu is the fully qualified email address of your friend in Norway. Your screen will clear, and you'll get a split line, dividing the screen into two halves. You will use the top half to type your text, and their text will appear in the bottom half. While trying to connect, you'll see a message (usually) that states Talk is waiting for an answer, or that your friend is not logged on. Either way, you'll understand when you see it. To leave the talk daemon, just use your normal escape sequence, like control-c or control-d. If your friend is using PINE, they need to have the "allow talk" option set on in Setup / Configuration. This way, if you try to ring them while they are in PINE, their screen will show your incoming talk message. If you want to see if they are signed on first, just substitute "finger" for "talk" above. Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any more questions! ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 emmanucb@medicor.posgrado.unam.mx wrote: > Hi this is Emmanuel from Mexico City, I am having some troubles trying to > talk to my friend in Norway, what can I do, I have been awaiting, and I > know he is sitting in front of his PC at this moment. > > How exactly does the talk command works? If I am using my e-mail, when or > where do I check if he is ringing/calling? > > > Takk for deres hjelp/ Gracias por su ayuda/ thanks for your help. > > ECB > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:25:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30826 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:25:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05996 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:21:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (vigrid.cfar.umd.edu [128.8.132.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05992; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:20:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id PAA02780; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:20:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 15:20:53 -0500 (EST) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: David L Miller cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will these be in 4.0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ->> 3: Notification of new mail in the folders listing. ->> ->> Mailing lists for the mail, procmail for the filtering, and the $10k ->> question, which mailboxes have mail *THIS* week. Checking 20-30 mailboxes ->> each time I check mail (multiple times a day) is tedious. Wouldn't a simple ->> file with a timestamp of the last check by pine v. the current timestamp on ->> the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders? Here is an solution for this problem. It assumes that your procmail has set VERBOSE=no. What is does it display a small window in right bottom corner of your screen there the latest emails scrools (you can use the scoll bar to see what came before) I have this in my .xinitrc /usr/local/bin/maillog +ls -title "Mail Log" -geometry 80x10-0-0 -e tail -f /home/adam/mail/incoming/procmail.log & -- and output looks something like this : From owner-linux-net-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Feb 14 14:58:01 1997 Subject: Linux / IBM 3472-G Terminal Folder: linux-other 1353 From owner-linux-kernel-outgoing@vger.rutgers.edu Fri Feb 14 15:05:43 1997 Subject: Linux / IBM 3472-G Terminal Folder: linux-kernel 1359 -- However, the feature which I really miss is the 'threaded folder' ie that I can have all mail sorted by time it came by inbox, yet still have all followups to given subject under the first email w/ this subject. As I understand this should be in the Pine 4.0, thus my question, when I should expect the pine 4.0 come out... By the way does anyone know any threaded mailer? If such exist I would like to give it a try... -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:44:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA31262 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA07651 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:40:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA07647 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 12:40:31 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA28514 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 14 Feb 97 15:40:28 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id OAA25173; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:57:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:57:28 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Jukka Vdhdmdki Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with PCPINE:s ~/.signature and ~/.addressbook files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jukka, Sounds to me like you should be using the PC-Pine addressbook and signature files, as you are using PC-Pine to compose your mail. The Solaris server is only your relay host. Choose the PC-Pine filenames from your Pine setup screen (\PINE\ADDRBOOK instead of ~/.addressbook, etc.) Good luck Joe:D On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Jukka Vdhdmdki wrote: > Can someone help me with my problem ??? > > I'm using Pcpine in my microcomputer and mailhost is Sun-Soloaris server. > Everything works fine except accessing .signature and .addressbook files in my > home directory in Solaris. The files exist and their protection is: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 jukkav 609 Jan 2 13:08 .signature > -rwxr-xr-x 1 jukkav 1494 Feb 12 08:45 .addressbook > > in pinerc-file are rows: > > # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature > signature-file=~/.signature > > # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). > # Default: none > # Syntax: optnl-label path-name > global-address-book=~/.addressbook > > # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). > # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) > # Syntax: optnl-label path-name > address-book=~/.addressbook > > > I can't get my signature file in mails and when I try to use my addressbook > Pcpine says: > > Personal AddressBook <~/.addressbook> (Un-readable) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > [ Permission Denied ] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Global AddressBook <~/.addressbook> (Un-readable) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > [ Permission Denied ] > > > If someone cound tell me teh answer to this problem, I would be wery glad ! > > I understand that accessing to these two files is bossible. > > Please mail me: jukka.vahamaki@otol.fi > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:37:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19943 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:37:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA07493 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:32:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hydrogen.helios.nd.edu (hydrogen.helios.nd.edu [129.74.220.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA07485 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:32:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (cmullark@localhost) by hydrogen.helios.nd.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA15047 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:32:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:32:39 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Mullarkey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: locking failures Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII to whom it may concern: I NEED YOUR HELP!!! i have been struggling with pine problems for about 2 weeks. i have asked my university computer people what's up and they can't answer me. here's what's wrong: i accidently opened my mailtool when pine was on. i know this was stupid. ever since, i cannot exit pine, i cannot delete messages from pine and sometimes it just randomly locks up on me. what is wrong and what can i do? i really don't want to have to switch to eudora. i need telnet and pine! any help or suggestions you can give would be greatly appreciated. sincerely, chris mullarkey p.s. sometimes it reads on the bottom of the screen: "unexpected locking failure" thanks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris E. Mullarkey 423 Badin Hall Notre Dame, IN 46556-5604 Call me! I like to feel important! (219) 634-2691 Or just email me. That makes me happy too. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:13:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03352 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10923 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:10:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10910 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:10:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvXfe-000391C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 16:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: news followup when followup-to: poster ? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 21:02:58 GMT On 12 Feb 1997, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Actually, it sounds more like a problem of _your_ version :-) RFC1036 (if > I remember the number right) states, that if Followup-To: contains single > word "poster", any followup should be mailed to athor's address and _not_ > posted. So Pine 3.95 is quite correct on that matter. If the RFC says "should" rather than "must", then it's not wrong for the client agent to allow the user to choose. Thanks for the reference, though. I hadn't noticed that the RFC 1036 says this: If the keyword poster is present, follow-up messages are not permitted. The message should be mailed to the submitter of the message via mail. Which appears to forbid the client from posting. That's good, in a way, since I routinely refuse email replies[*], so it'll save me time and effort. However, I think it's somewhat counterproductive. [*]unless I perceive that it's a matter that really does require personal handling; or the poster has made a convincing argument, e.g offering a plausible promise to post a summary. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:43:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA04901 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:43:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA15045 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:39:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from steele.ohsu.EDU (steele.ohsu.edu [137.53.1.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA15041 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:38:57 -0800 Received: by steele.ohsu.EDU (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA16295; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:37:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:37:51 -0800 (PST) From: Dara Partovi X-Sender: partovid@steele To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am having trouble with using pine from my internet provider (aracnet). I can't send anymore messages and I can't open my inbox. It says things like: "quota exceeded", "inbox is not in valid mailbox format". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Dara Partovi. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:25:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA21134 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:25:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14193 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:20:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14189 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:20:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvafe-000393C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 19:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: .forward file but a twist Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:27:17 GMT Message-ID: References: <3.0.1.32.19970212083026.006fcda4@mail.pathcom.com> <5dsvcq$13e16@hpbs1500.boi.hp.com> khartung@boi.hp.com (Kris Hartung): > I have someone writing me a script that will copy new mail > in my Pine INBOX folder and mail it to another address. > The script will run continuously and will not re-send mail. So - does the script mail or does it not? > I think this will be more efficient than forwarding mail > to the same server on which the .forward file is located. Why? > I will post my results when the script is done. I am very curious about this. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:40:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07920 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:40:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA00140 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:33:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17696 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:26:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvdUj-000391C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 22:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Darren P. Chapman" Subject: PINE 3.95 Binary for HP-UX Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:57:30 -0600 Message-ID: <32F278DA.4A71@sji-sjif.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for a binary for HP-UX 9.0x that is compiled to run with Wyse 50 terminals? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:42:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA06924 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:42:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17700 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:26:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17696 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:26:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvdUj-000391C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 22:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Darren P. Chapman" Subject: PINE 3.95 Binary for HP-UX Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:57:30 -0600 Message-ID: <32F278DA.4A71@sji-sjif.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for a binary for HP-UX 9.0x that is compiled to run with Wyse 50 terminals? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:39:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA08623 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA17254 for pine-info-out; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA17250 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:36:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vveb7-000391C; Fri, 14 Feb 97 23:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <27.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:54:23 GMT Control: cancel <27.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:09:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09309 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:09:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02697 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:06:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA02693 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:06:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvg1I-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cyber-Babushka Subject: Re: Pine and Local News Spooling Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:15:38 -0500 References: <5dclsb$qfs@morgana.mat.uc.pt> In-Reply-To: <5dclsb$qfs@morgana.mat.uc.pt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Feb 1997 humpback@cygnus.ci.uc.pt wrote: >I use pine 3.93 in linux 2.0.21 (slackware 96) and i have instaled pnews >and suck, with these two programs i can build a local news spool, i have >managed to read and post news using tin in local mode (no -r option). But >i seem to be unaible to read news with pine... I think i have tried >anything... Please help.. This is why I claim this information should be in the tech-notes, and the FAQ. I had the same problem. The answer can be found in the context-sensitive help in Pine. In Setup/Config/news-collections, type '?' and you will find out that to access the local spool, you need to type '*[]' on the news-collections line. Also in Setup/Config, way down toward the bottom of all the stuff you can configure, make sure that news-spool-dir points at your news spool (mine, for example, says '/var/spool/news'). I believe the default is /usr/spool/news. Also make sure to fill in the path for your news active file. I use pnews and suck to build my news spool, and it works just fine with Pine - now that I know how to tell it where the news spool is! bonni http://wvnvm.wvnet.edu/~u6ed4/bonni.html C++ Turbo Vision archive: http://brooks.wvn.wvnet.edu/tvhome __ __ IC | XC | bonni mierzejewska "The Lone Quilter" ---+--- | u6ed4@wvnvm.wvnet.edu NI | KA | Kelly's Creek Homestead, Maidsville, WV From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:19:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09373 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:19:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18377 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:16:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA18373 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:16:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvgCo-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: how to get to bottom of file? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:45:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5e21ll$1qq@echo2.echonyc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e21ll$1qq@echo2.echonyc.com> On 14 Feb 1997, Lucy Komisar wrote: > What key strokes do you use to get in one stroke to the bottom of a file > you are reading or composing on pine? And to the top of the file? Try ^W^Y and ^W^V . Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:38:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09480 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:38:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA03056 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA03052 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 01:36:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvgVg-000391C; Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leli@wizvax.net (kevin lapalme) Subject: undisclosed recipients Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 06:06:10 GMT Message-ID: <5dub2f$khc$1@news.wizvax.net> My ISP recently made some changes to their mail set-up. Subsequently, whenever I send a message the intended recipient will see, in the to: header, their address and the phrase "undisclosed recipients.". What's up with this "undisclosed recipients" business? I didn't bcc: anyone. Is my mail being forwarded to a third party? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:50:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA10271 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA19287 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:46:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA19283 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:46:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvhd2-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 02:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mat Subject: Having Mail sorted into different folders Date: 14 Feb 1997 15:18:07 GMT Message-ID: <5e1vnf$mb0$1@news.cic.net> Can you have your mail filtered? IE Can you look for a phrase or saying and have it put in a folder owhen you load pine... TIA -- Martin Hooper - m.hooper@uclan.ac.uk - martinjh@nether.net http://jumper.mcc.ac.uk/users/compsoc/superman/frames "Sometimes you have to have patience with things that annoy you." Xena From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:53:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09809 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA19351 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:51:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA19347 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:51:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvhiL-00038xC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 02:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Big Gwynnie Subject: stupid question Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:33:45 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII just a simple-probably stupid-question. is it possible to open a personal account with pine using my home pc? up to now, i've had an account through college. i'm done with college now and they're closing my account. as i'm now familiar with pine, i wouldn't mind staying with it. if not, are there any simple alternatives? i'm not really interested in anything like aol - just something to let me email, use newsgroups, etc. thanks, jim email jg9343@acs.brockport.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:54:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA10393 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03812 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:51:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA03808 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 02:51:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvhej-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 02:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <33056B10.A48@clemson.edu> Date: 15 Feb 1997 07:57:18 GMT Control: cancel <33056B10.A48@clemson.edu> Message-ID: MMF cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 03:37:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA10035 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 03:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA04265 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 03:35:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from otto.bf.rmit.edu.au (otto.bf.rmit.edu.au [131.170.195.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA04261 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 03:35:35 -0800 Received: from localhost (niramonp@localhost) by otto.bf.rmit.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA31435 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:35:33 +1100 (EST) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:35:33 +1100 (EST) From: Niramon Passananont To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to save? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am the one using the pine pass through the system of the university. I have recieved the attachments but I can not save them into drive a. Could you please tell me how to do it? Thank you very much. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:44:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA09908 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:44:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA06339 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:42:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA06329 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:42:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvlGA-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 06:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John McCarty Subject: News Reader? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:20:01 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am useing pine to read news. But when I goto the news groups it lists all of them now if I unsubscribe to a group it does not show up the next time I goto news groups. So my questions would be: 1. How would you delete them all? 2. After I subscribe to the ones I want to read, and later on would like to see the all how would I go about bring all of them up? -- Amiga (amiga@initco.net) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:44:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA04242 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:44:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA06321 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:41:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA06317 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 06:41:23 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 15 Feb 97 15:41:16 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00416; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:48:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:48:35 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Dara Partovi cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Dara Partovi wrote: >Hi, I am having trouble with using pine from my internet provider >(aracnet). I can't send anymore messages and I can't open my inbox. It >says things like: "quota exceeded", Which is another word for: You don't have any space left on your hard drive. Delete some old messages or other files that you don't need. This can be done with the rm command. So check the man pages for quota and rm (man quota, man rm) and do what they tell you. >"inbox is not in valid mailbox format". Any help would be appreciated. Just what it says. Make sure you have a directory Mail (or whatever is in your .pinerc, and that you have a file (*not* a directory) in it: # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). Enjoy, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:35:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA12124 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA22397 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:32:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA22389 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:32:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvm1b-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 07:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Spaces in filename for attachments Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:29:48 +930 Message-ID: References: <01bc1a92$2a5b38a0$0108f6c7@pc2.cimegration.com> <5e3opp$b9d@news1.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e3opp$b9d@news1.epix.net> On 15 Feb 1997, DearOldDad wrote: > Michael Roberts (roberts@cimtegration.com) wrote: > : I am using pine 3.95. Is there a way to configure or build pine to accept > : file and directory names of attachments with spaces in them? Any and all > : answers are greatly appreciated. > > No you can't use 'spaces' in *nix filenames, but the usual way it's done > is to use an underline so for example if you want a file called "my mail" > you name it "my_mail" ... Hope that helps. BYE He does not state he is using Un*x. He could be using APine, the Amiga port of Pine, or some other port that allows spaces in filenames. Matt. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:55:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA12302 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:55:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07063 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:52:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA07059 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 07:52:35 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 15 Feb 97 16:52:27 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA00870; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:52:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:52:30 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Niramon Passananont cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to save? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Niramon Passananont wrote: > I am the one using the pine pass through the system of the >university. I have recieved the attachments but I can not save them into >drive a. Could you please tell me how to do it? Thank you very much. E(xport) the mail to your home dir, giving it a unique name. Then copy the file onto the floppy. Something like cp /dev/fd0 should work, provided your floppy is mounted. Otherwise, check if you have the mtools installed (e.g. which mcopy). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:10:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA06812 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA07209 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:07:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA07205 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:07:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvma8-00038xC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 08:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "M. Gaebler" Subject: Changing reply to field in Pine Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:48:17 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII All - Below is a reply I received to a question I posted. I don't know anything more than this, but it worked for me. - Mike G. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:11:31 -0800 (PST) From: Sean Harding To: "M. Gaebler" Subject: Re: Changing "from" or "reply-to"? Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine In article you wrote: > I have a permanent e-mail address (say "mike@foo.com") that I'd like to > maintain, so I need to messages I send through Pine e-mail to appear like > they were sent from there ("mgaebler@foo.com") as opposed to where I'm > actually sending them from ("mgaebler@u.washington.edu"). Probably the easiest way to acomplish this is to go to Setup> configure and down to Custom headers (I think that's what it says) and add in "Reply-to: mgaebler@foo.com"... Sean Harding, sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:30:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA12450 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA07436 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:27:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdlb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.162]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA07432 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:27:45 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA06189; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:53:28 +0530 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:53:27 +0530 (IST) From: sonzy X-Sender: sonzy@giasdlb To: John McCarty cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News Reader? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do one thing, go to the unix prompt and delete your .newsrc file When U come back , the folder list would be empty and then you can subscribe to each one with pressing A for subscribe. and for getting a foldder list : Press ^T Sonu. On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, John McCarty wrote: > I am useing pine to read news. But when I goto the news groups it > lists all of them now if I unsubscribe to a group it does not show up the > next time I goto news groups. So my questions would be: > 1. How would you delete them all? > 2. After I subscribe to the ones I want to read, and later on would like > to see the all how would I go about bring all of them up? > > -- Amiga > > (amiga@initco.net) > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sonu Agarwal sonzy@myself.com Check out my Indian Cuisine Page at http://members.tripod.com/~sonzy AGNI - The first Exclusive Indian Search Engine. 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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:23:26 +930 Message-ID: References: <5e21ll$1qq@echo2.echonyc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e21ll$1qq@echo2.echonyc.com> On 14 Feb 1997, Lucy Komisar wrote: > What key strokes do you use to get in one stroke to the bottom of a file > you are reading or composing on pine? And to the top of the file? ^W (WhereIs) ^Y (FirstLine) Matt. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:46:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA13135 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA23845 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:43:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA23835 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:43:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id LAA06306; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:42:20 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:42:20 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: Big Gwynnie cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: stupid question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jim: This is possible, and there are no stupid questions! :) Many ISP (Internet Service Providers) will offer users a variety of service levels that range from basic shell access to full blown PPP access with all the goodies. Most ISP's (except the heavy commercial ones like AOL, MSN, Ameritech, PacBell, Prodigy, etc.) offer shell access to a UNIX account, which normally includes PINE and/or ELM. Plus, most will offer POP3 and/or IMAP access also, so your mail possibilities are many. A good place to look for ISP's in your neighborhood is: http://www.thelist.com. You can search by area code or region to find a yellow-pages type listing of the services in your area. Just call them up beforehand and get your questions answered. See if they have a type of service that helps you out. Good luck! ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Big Gwynnie wrote: > just a simple-probably stupid-question. is it possible to open a personal > account with pine using my home pc? up to now, i've had an account > through college. i'm done with college now and they're closing my > account. as i'm now familiar with pine, i wouldn't mind staying with it. > > if not, are there any simple alternatives? i'm not really interested in > anything like aol - just something to let me email, use newsgroups, etc. > > thanks, > > jim email jg9343@acs.brockport.edu > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:12:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA29584 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA08629 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:09:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA08624 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:09:02 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 15 Feb 97 19:08:54 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA00900; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 16:56:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 16:56:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spaces in filename for attachments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Matthew Schinckel wrote: >On 15 Feb 1997, DearOldDad wrote: > >> Michael Roberts (roberts@cimtegration.com) wrote: >> : I am using pine 3.95. Is there a way to configure or build pine to accept >> : file and directory names of attachments with spaces in them? Any and all >> : answers are greatly appreciated. >> No you can't use 'spaces' in *nix filenames, but the usual way it's done >> is to use an underline so for example if you want a file called "my mail" >> you name it "my_mail" ... Hope that helps. BYE >He does not state he is using Un*x. He could be using APine, the Amiga >port of Pine, or some other port that allows spaces in filenames. Anyhow, it's *bad* style to do that :-) Just because it's allowed doesn't mean it makes sense... If he ever wants to take those files to another system, he'll end up with these horrible ~-filenames... ymmv ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA12862 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA08806 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:22:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA08802 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:22:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvogB-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 10:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lbliao@alumnae.caltech.edu (lbliao) Subject: Re: MAJOR FLAW WITH ELM, Need Urgent help! Date: 15 Feb 1997 07:05:41 GMT Message-ID: <5e3n85$oqe@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <5e0j9f$cll@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <5e0jjd$cqh@gap.cco.caltech.edu> In article <5e0jjd$cqh@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, lbliao wrote: > >I tried to search in pine and saw it did no better than elm. >Am I doing something wrong? I am novice to pine and my message file >is about 1000+ long. Is there a way to search foolproof for words? >In elm I tried both / and // with both exact, lower case, uppercahse. >In pine i tried w to search. > >In article <5e0j9f$cll@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, >lbliao wrote: >> >>I am having a major problem with elm. I have noticed for >>sometime, that it fails to search for patterns in the mail >>box. I the past I thought that I was giving wrong pattern, >>but now I have conclusively tested the program, and seen that >>grep gives the pattern, but elm fails with both single >>and double slashes. >> >>Can anyone help me out? I am looking for a mail reader program >>that has a robust searching facility and arrangement facility. >>That should be close to the unix syntax if possible. It should >>be able to search patterns in the title and the whole message. >> >>Elm version is 2.4 >> >> >>I think that it is a design flaw with elm. OK try grepping a pattern >>in your mail file and then compare the number of instances that elm >>finds of that pattern. >> > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:05:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13787 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:05:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA24826 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:02:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA24822 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:02:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvpLG-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 11:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Multiple nntp servers? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 20:32:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5e29jc$1rg@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e29jc$1rg@net161-61.student.yale.edu> On 14 Feb 1997, Jungshik Shin wrote: > I wish there would be a way to specify different "newsrc" files(as > shown below) for different news servers in future version of Pine. This feature has been discussed, but it's not as easy as it sounds. Put another way, the function is obvious, the precise details of how it should work (the elusive "right thing") are not. Some of the problems are a bit hard to explain, since there are interactions with capabilities that are new in 4.00/IMAP4. What seems to be obvious from looking at 3.95 is much less obvious in 4.00. Necessary preliminary work has been started; internally, multiple .newsrc files will be supported, there's just no way for users to get at the feature. I can't promise that it'll be in 4.00; but it would almost certainly be in 4.01. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:40:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14309 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA09916 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:37:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA09912 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:37:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvpuY-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 11:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E=mc2 Subject: Speller on Pine 3.95q Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:46:43 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The speller on the new version of Pine, called ISPELLER, is checkcing the misspelling on lines that contain ">" This does not make any sense. The old Speller did not check the linse that have ">" in them. Any ideas? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:41:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA14265 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28219 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:38:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28214 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:38:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvtfk-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 15:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniyal Ali Subject: PC PINE UNDER WINDOWS NT CONSOLE Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3305EB69.6F00@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello every one! I was wondering if any one has used pc pine as console application under windows nt to check their mail. I keep getting the message "host not found" after i run pine. I have tried playing with the pinerc file but it does not help PLEASE HELP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:45:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA08413 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA12760 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:43:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA12756 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:43:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvtku-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 15:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kenny Elliott Subject: Pine 3.95 dieing! Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:00:30 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all: Got a strange problem here we can't seem to work out. We are sunning Pine 3.95 on a Solaris 2.5 box. Pine works great for most users, however, for some it keeps giving an INBOX access error. I thought it might be the volume of mail that these users were getting but it turns out that I get much more mail then they do. I have checked all permissions and they match with my working pine's folder permissions. I have tried deleteing all of there folders and rc files. I have even copied my rc file over to there's. Basicly they are set-up exactly as my working account is (even checked mesg status) but they get this error and I NEVER do. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. \/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/ Kenny Elliott kenny@wild.net System Administrator http://www.wild.net/~kenny Wild.Net L.L.C. 504-875-9453 \/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 17:26:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA16707 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 17:26:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA14029 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 17:22:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14025 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 17:22:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00979 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:21:49 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:21:49 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending (multiple), folder >> folder Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I more than one file at a time from INBOX to some other folder? Have previously used PINE 3.93ca. And could at least line 'em up, then run down the list. But now with 3.94, has to be typed in for each command. Thanks in advance. - Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:51:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA17812 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:51:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA00648 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:48:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA00644 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 18:48:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvwct-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 18:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Maria Subject: Saving a group in the address book Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:46:13 -0900 Message-ID: <33064AC5.3136@uaa.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to create a group in pine to whom you want to send regular e-mail messages? I would like to be able to save several e-mail addresses under one name and be able to write to them all just by pulling that one name out of my addressbook. Is this possible? If it is, what do I need to do? Please reply to my e-mail address as I don't always get to check news. Thank you, Maria asmmm@uaa.alaska.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:21:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA18454 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA16224 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:18:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA16220 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 20:18:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA02311 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:17:09 -0500 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Signature. Must it be put at top? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For some reason the signature I've been constructing (two lines only, low bandwidth!) is being put at the top, when I make a . Why? Thanks in advance. - Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:05:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17435 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:05:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA16683 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdla.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA16679 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:02:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA18364; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:21:15 +0530 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:21:15 +0530 (IST) From: sonzy X-Sender: sonzy@giasdla To: Paul Kayak cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature. Must it be put at top? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Paul, Well if you want the signature at the bottom of every mail, just go to setup, configure and look for the option: " signature-at-bottom" checkmark that and That's done. Sonu. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sonu Agarwal sonzy@myself.com Check out my Indian Cuisine Page at http://members.tripod.com/~sonzy AGNI - The first Exclusive Indian Search Engine. Mail me for Ads!! Visit AGNI at http://www.indiawatch.com/agni Send a Gift to your loved ones - Pacific Gift Service - www.pgservice.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:11:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA18590 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA02295 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:08:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA02285 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:08:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvypf-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gsully@gsully.osha.igs.net (Greg Sullivan) Subject: Re: Configuration Question Date: 13 Feb 1997 18:10:13 GMT Message-ID: <5dvle5$5v8@news.inforamp.net> References: On 12 Feb 1997 13:16:31 -0800, Beth Protz wrote: >Now, I have another question! >I tried to change the column wrap-around width to 132 characters, but the >default max value is 80. >Is there any way to change that? PLEASE do not consider doing this. The majority of people read their e-mail on systems that have 80 column displays. The line-wrapping that happens to messages written with 132 characters per line does not look very nice and gets very hard on the eyes. >Oh, and one more thing... >For some reason, when I upload a text file from my word-processing program to >Pine, it's placing a blank line between each line of text. >Can this be stopped? May I recomment that you stop using a word-processing program to edit your e-mail responses and start useing a text editor [ie DOS Edit, Qedit, Windows Notepad, etc...]. Word-processors are not the greatest programs when it comes to editing simple text only files. Sully -- ________________________________________________________________________ Greg `SULLY' Sullivan | e-mail: fosteryv@istar.ca ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:20:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA19016 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA02395 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:17:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdla.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.161]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA02391 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:17:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA18968; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:35:04 +0530 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:35:04 +0530 (IST) From: sonzy X-Sender: sonzy@giasdla To: Greg Sullivan cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Question In-Reply-To: <5dvle5$5v8@news.inforamp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Feb 1997, Greg Sullivan wrote: > > May I recomment that you stop using a word-processing program to edit > your e-mail responses and start useing a text editor [ie DOS Edit, Qedit, > Windows Notepad, etc...]. Word-processors are not the greatest programs > when it comes to editing simple text only files. Hi Greg, Well even if we use a DOS EDIT or any Simple TEXT or ASCII Editor, then also when we upload the text file in the message using protocol as ASCII , then during that ASCII upload, it leaves one blank line between each line though sometimes.THis has been a problem with me also.Any reasons? Sonu. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sonu Agarwal sonzy@myself.com Check out my Indian Cuisine Page at http://members.tripod.com/~sonzy AGNI - The first Exclusive Indian Search Engine. Mail me for Ads!! Visit AGNI at http://www.indiawatch.com/agni Send a Gift to your loved ones - Pacific Gift Service - www.pgservice.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:21:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA19161 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:21:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA16887 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:18:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA16883 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:18:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvyvL-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 21:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: X-No-Archive Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:09:24 EST Message-ID: References: On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:54:34 +0000, Robert de Bath wrote: >Path: newshub.netnews.att.com!cbgw3.lucent.com!news.pbi.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!btnet!btnet-feed2!news.compulink.co.uk!usenet >Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:54:34 +0000 >Message-ID: >NNTP-Posting-Host: mayday.compulink.co.uk >Subject: Re: X-No-Archive >setup, customized-headers >(RTFM) (That's friendly BTW :-) >On Fri, 7 Feb 1997 fpjpc@MHFP.SWMED.EDU wrote: >> x-no-archive: yes Jeez.. you are following up to a Usenet posting, your subject line has a 'Re:' and still the post does not have a 'References' line to tell me what article you are following up to. I asked my newsreader to get me the parent article to this article and it said 'Article has no parent reference' ! Talk about breaking the thread for other newsreaders ! No offence.. I dont mean this to you personally..but this is just one more instance where I find that Pine as a Usenet newsreader just sucks beyond belief. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:51:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA19125 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17298 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:49:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA17293 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:49:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvzRE-00038xC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 21:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc Date: 15 Feb 1997 19:54:50 GMT Message-ID: References: vikas@insight.att.com (vikas@insight.att.com): > Procmail puts various messages into various folders according to the rules I > give in my procmailrc. But how am I to know which folders to open and read? Well, procmail's logfile will have the info on the filtered email. You can use a script to gather this info and give you a summary. However, you have to decide when to clear the log - every time you get the summary or periodically or just do it manually when you see fit. No solution is perfect. Just try and see. Or look at it the same way as with Usenet and newsgroups - start your mailer and see. I use this command to get a screenfull from the end of procmail's log: grep "^ Folder:" ~/.procmail/log | tail -${1:-$LINES} There are probably better ways - let us hear about them! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:52:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA18924 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA02812 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:49:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA02798 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:48:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vvzQR-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 21:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: undisclosed recipients Date: 15 Feb 1997 19:38:42 GMT Message-ID: References: <5dub2f$khc$1@news.wizvax.net> leli@wizvax.net (kevin lapalme): > My ISP recently made some changes to their mail set-up. Subsequently, > whenever I send a message the intended recipient will see, in the to: > header, their address and the phrase "undisclosed recipients.". > What's up with this "undisclosed recipients" business? > I didn't bcc: anyone. Is my mail being forwarded to a third party? How about asking your ISP? Sven -- echo "my mom rearranged my desk - where is my book now?" | post comp.mail.whine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:58:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA18438 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA03474 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:55:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA03470 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 22:55:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw0PY-00038qC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 22:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edmund Lau Subject: Re: reloading INBOX Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:49:36 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> <5e2a0l$1t0@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e2a0l$1t0@net161-61.student.yale.edu> On 14 Feb 1997, Jungshik Shin wrote: > Related, but different problem comes to mind. Pine queries INBOX and > other (remote) mailboxes as to whether there's any new messages at given > periodic interval( specifed somewhere in Configuration menu), so that I > can't see new messages unitl next time Pine checks INBOX even if they're > already saved in INBOX. Is there any way to enforce Pine to renew the > current "image" of INBOX ? If not, adding the feature would be > nice. > Actually there is. If you are in the INBOX all you have to do is hit the down arrow. If that doesn't work, you can try Control-L. The down arrow is faster because Control-L forces a screen rewrite. There is also a mail-check-interval that you might want to look at in the newer versions of Pine. ---------------------------------------- __ || [|-dmund L_]au `- () _ []nformation & ((omputer ((cience '' _ () |U|niversity of ((alifornia, []rvine `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:06:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA19856 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA18037 for pine-info-out; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:04:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA18033 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 1997 23:04:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw0dR-00038xC; Sat, 15 Feb 97 23:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ismail Tuncer Subject: Key mapping is possible? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3304FA3A.167E@aa.nps.navy.mil> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:50:18 GMT Is it possible to map keys in pine? I hate to use curser keys to move around and cntr-c to quit out of something. cntr-c really gets me. Why on earth I should hit 2 keys to quit. I love vi-bindings and like to use j-k and esc instead.. ismail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:38:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA20740 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04639 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:35:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA04635 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:35:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw230-00038xC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 00:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: folder;headers Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 09:24:11 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I created some folders by mistake in the Incoming Message Folders grouping (the one with the INBOX) and now I can't seem to delete them. What do I do? Also When I post to a newsgroup instead of saying my name or something in the index when you look at all the messages mine says "To:comp.mail.pine". What's up with that? any help would be appreciated please reply to personl mailbox gs From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:58:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA20842 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA19312 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:55:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA19308 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:55:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw2Jw-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 00:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martinjh@phish.nether.net (Mat) Subject: Re: I desperately need help... Date: 13 Feb 1997 10:30:43 GMT Message-ID: <5duqgj$dao$1@news.cic.net> References: George Gallianos (psylgxg@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk) wrote: : ...to export an ATTACHMENT to a seperate file so that I can use elsewhere : (e.g. say a .DOC file to ftp to Windows and then to view there). Can : anyone PLEASE help? : Thanks a lot, : George Gallianos Press V to view attachments and then S to save to a file in your home area... I think that's how you do it... -- Martin Hooper - m.hooper@uclan.ac.uk - martinjh@nether.net http://jumper.mcc.ac.uk/users/compsoc/superman/frames "Sometimes you have to have patience with things that annoy you." Xena From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 01:01:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20884 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 01:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04873 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:59:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from FRCU.EUN.EG (FRCU.EUN.EG [193.227.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04869 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:59:18 -0800 Received: from ccis.suez.eun.eg by FRCU.EUN.EG (PMDF V4.2-11 #3805) id <01IFHC8F354W000UAZ@FRCU.EUN.EG>; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:59:32 O Received: by ccis.suez.eun.eg (5.4R3.10/200.8.1.3) id AA07751; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:57:56 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:57:56 -0500 From: root@ccis.suez.eun.eg ( Special Admin login) Subject: PINE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <9702161557.AA07751@ccis.suez.eun.eg> Content-type: text Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear all ..... I'm working in a network which is connected to the Internet as a subnet We are using UNIX as our operating system ,we use shell accounts and I have been trying to download the package of PINE for mail but it does not work . Can anybody help .? Thanks in advance Ashraf Refaey Egypt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:02:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA22075 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA06197 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:00:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA06190 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:00:10 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA01527 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199702161100.DAA01527@shivax.cac.washington.edu> From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE This message is being sent to pine-info@cac.washington.edu weekly to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:02:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA19424 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:02:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA07644 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA07634 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 04:59:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw69i-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 04:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: stupid question Date: 15 Feb 1997 19:41:36 GMT Message-ID: References: jg9343@starfish.acs.brockport.edu (Big Gwynnie): > just a simple-probably stupid-question. is it possible to open a personal > account with pine using my home pc? up to now, i've had an account > through college. i'm done with college now and they're closing my account. Well, if they close down your account then you won't get any email, will you? So why bother with installing Pine on your PC? Read old email, perhaps? ;-) > as i'm now familiar with pine, i wouldn't mind staying with it. > if not, are there any simple alternatives? i'm not really interested in > anything like aol - just something to let me email, use newsgroups, etc. So you are looking for an ISP - well, wrong group. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:22:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA22855 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22339 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22331 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:07 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 16 Feb 97 14:18:00 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA01422; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:20:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:20:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Paul Kayak cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending (multiple), folder >> folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Paul Kayak wrote: >How can I more than one file at a time from INBOX to some other >folder? That's S(ave), isn't it? Anyhow, enable the following in your pinerc and read the help that comes with the entry: enable-aggregate-command-set, The availability of the aggregate operations commands is determined by the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature-list option in your Pine configuration. Note that aggregate commands may be administratively disabled by your system manager; if they don't work, please check with your local help desk before reporting a bug. Here's something from the tech-notes to toy around with, too, if you have the appropriate server at hand... >;-> The save-aggregates-copy-sequence feature is suppressed from the config screen. This feature will optimize an aggregate copy operation, if possible, by issuing a single COPY command with a list of the messages to be copied. This may save network traffic when the source and destination folders are on the same IMAP server. However, many IMAP servers (including the UW IMAP server) do not preserve the order of messages when this optimization is applied. If this feature is not enabled, or if the folders are on different IMAP servers, or the folders are local and in different formats, Pine will copy each message individually. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:22:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA12662 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22334 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22329 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:05 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 16 Feb 97 14:17:57 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA01515; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:33:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:33:41 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Ismail Tuncer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Key mapping is possible? In-Reply-To: <3304FA3A.167E@aa.nps.navy.mil> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Ismail Tuncer wrote: >Is it possible to map keys in pine? From a quick glance at pico (that's what we're talking about here, not pine), I think the answer is "no". >I hate to use curser keys to move around and cntr-c to quit out of >something. cntr-c really gets me. Why on earth I should hit 2 keys to >quit. Well, you can always hit the Big Red to quit... >I love vi-bindings and like to use j-k and esc instead.. Luvly... Try using vi as an editor in pine, then: enable-alternate-editor-implicitly, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor=vi Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:22:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA22517 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22349 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22345 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:16 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 16 Feb 97 14:18:09 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA01479; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:28:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:28:23 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: sonzy cc: Greg Sullivan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, sonzy wrote: >On 13 Feb 1997, Greg Sullivan wrote: >> May I recomment that you stop using a word-processing program to >> edit your e-mail responses and start useing a text editor [ie DOS Edit, >> Qedit, Windows Notepad, etc...]. Word-processors are not the greatest >> programs when it comes to editing simple text only files. >Hi Greg, Well even if we use a DOS EDIT or any Simple TEXT or ASCII >Editor, then also when we upload the text file in the message using >protocol as ASCII , then during that ASCII upload, it leaves one blank >line between each line though sometimes.THis has been a problem with me >also.Any reasons? Very wild guess, but where do you upload those files to? If you upload them to a u*ix-system, it could be a "dos2unix"-problem... Try this for a change: recode ibmpc:lat1 If it works, you could put it in a simple shell script... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:23:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA22873 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:23:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22343 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22336 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 05:18:10 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 16 Feb 97 14:18:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA01452; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:24:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 13:24:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Maria cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Saving a group in the address book In-Reply-To: <33064AC5.3136@uaa.alaska.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Maria wrote: >Is it possible to create a group in pine to whom you want to send >regular e-mail messages? I would like to be able to save several e-mail >addresses under one name and be able to write to them all just by >pulling that one name out of my addressbook. Is this possible? If it >is, what do I need to do? Do you want an honest answer? >;-> Let's put it this way: the following passage is from pine's on-line help for the address book... ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ The only difference between a distribution list and a simple entry with a single address, is that a distribution list has more than one address listed in the Addresses: field, whereas a simple personal entry has just one address. For individual address book entries, if there is a full name in the Fullname: field (filling in the Fullname: field is not required), it is used. If the full name is specified in the Address: field and not in the Fullname: field, then the full name from the Address: field is used. If you type the nickname of a distribution list from one of your address books in the Lcc: field, then the full name of that list is used in the To: field. If you put a list in the To: or Cc: fields, that list will be expanded into all of its addresses. If the list has a full name, then that will appear at the beginning of the addresses. Sewing Club , nancy@something.else, Sal If the first address in the distribution list also has a full name, then the list full name and that full name are combined into something like the following: Sewing Club -- John Smith If you specify a list via Lcc, the full name is used in the To: line. If you specify a list in the To: or Cc: fields, then it uses the same method as for individual entries for filling in the full name. For help with editing and navigation commands, check the Help for the Nickname: field. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ *bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz* Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 06:54:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA11733 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 06:54:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA23279 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 06:51:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA23275 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 06:51:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw7qy-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 06:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Configuration Question Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:29:07 +930 Message-ID: References: <5dvle5$5v8@news.inforamp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 15 Feb 1997, sonzy wrote: > Well even if we use a DOS EDIT or any Simple TEXT or ASCII Editor, then > also when we upload the text file in the message using protocol as ASCII , > then during that ASCII upload, it leaves one blank line between each line > though sometimes.THis has been a problem with me also.Any reasons? This is due to the way that different operating systems, and sometimes even different applications, store EOLs (End of Lines). There are two characters that can be used in ASCII - LF (Line Feed) and CR (Carriage Return). Some systems use one, some use both. Well, that's the reason. To fix it you could find some sort of translation program, or find an editor that can save as a Un*x/Mac/DOS/Amiga etc. text file. I don't know which system uses which method of storing EOLs. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:10:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA23515 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA08968 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:06:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA08964 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:06:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw86Q-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 07:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: black n white problem Date: 11 Feb 1997 13:52:29 GMT Message-ID: References: <32f6785601c9006@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp): > Ed, I don't know who you are, nor you me, and I am really glad I don't > know you. All I did was ask for some assistance, not your snide remarks. The answer you did not like was not sent by Ed. Next time you better take a second look. > You had no right lashing out at me, or telling me > what kind of operating system I should be using. But we do have a right to say what we are thinking. Whiner. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:12:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA23231 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA23518 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:10:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA23514 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 07:10:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vw8BP-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 07:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MARCUS25 Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 03:06:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: i didn't hear anything about pine 4.0 but i did hear that pine 3.96 is out unless you already knew this please send me what you know as i don't think pine 3.96 is availible to the general public yet! marcus On 5 Feb 1997, Nick Bruton wrote: > > Just wondering if anyone has any news on when the next version of pine > (4.0?) might be available > > Thanks Nick > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 08:47:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA08896 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 08:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09962 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 08:45:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdlb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.162]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA09958 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 08:45:11 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA14927; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:10:02 +0530 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:10:02 +0530 (IST) From: sonzy X-Sender: sonzy@giasdlb To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: Greg Sullivan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configuration Question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Very wild guess, but where do you upload those files to? If you upload them > to a u*ix-system, it could be a "dos2unix"-problem... Try this for a change: > recode ibmpc:lat1 > If it works, you could put it in a simple shell script... Hi Robin, Well as I already mentioned, I ASCII Upload them into the message itself i.e I insert them INLINE into the message and that's when they leave a blank line. Sonu. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sonu Agarwal sonzy@myself.com Check out my Indian Cuisine Page at http://members.tripod.com/~sonzy AGNI - The first Exclusive Indian Search Engine. Mail me for Ads!! Visit AGNI at http://www.indiawatch.com/agni Send a Gift to your loved ones - Pacific Gift Service - www.pgservice.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:15:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA14094 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA10940 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:10:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA10936 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 10:10:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwB1d-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 10:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lyndon Thickens Subject: What can be sent via e-mail Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 11:29:21 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if anyone can give me a general idea of what can be sent via e-mail. If I understand correctly uuencoding is annoying past 500 bytes. How does FTP relate to pine ? (not that I even know what FTP is yet) Is there some way for me to upload a file to my current directory from my PC or is that only possible on the machine running pine ? Is there such a thing as FTP e-mail (I had better stop here before I look "really stupid") General or specific responses to any or all of these topics would be very much appreciated. Post 'em or e-mail me please. Lyndon Thickens (soon-to-be artist) Eenie Meenie Jelly Beanie, the spirits are about to speak --Bullwinkle. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:19:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA25977 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA12472 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.gti.net (apollo.gti.net [199.171.27.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA12465 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:16:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (c128user@localhost) by apollo.gti.net (4.1/4.1) with SMTP id PAA21202 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:16:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:16:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Glenn P.," Reply-To: "Glenn P.," To: Pine Bug Report! Subject: Your Demo of "Pine 3.95" At telnet ... Message-ID: Followup-To: "Glenn P.," X-Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," Organization: GlobalNet Telecom Inc. Info: 1-(201)-285-9099 or X-Gibberish: The Elephant says "Tusk, tusk!". Contents: Original Message. Distribution: Internet E-Mail. Expiration: 30 Jun 1997 Expires: 30 Jun 1997 X-No-Archive: Yes Sensitivity: Normal Precedence: Normal Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII While telnetting to your demo program at demo.cac.washington.edu, I found two fascinating bugs. First, in the Composer, if you delete the "sent-mail" from the Fcc: line, so as to suppress file-carboning, the composer has an unnerving tendency to restore when you don't want it to! Second, when I tried to issue a bug report on this, I found that the demo does not support this feature. Duh! But then I tried to exit... and found that I couldn't! Control-C is listed as the exit key, but when I entered it I got "Command ^C not defined for this screen."!!! And in my mind's ear, Rod Serling begins speaking... and background music begins to play... Doo-dee-doo-doo, doo-dee-doo-doo, doo-dee-doo-doo, doo-dee-doo-doo... Had to do a CTRL-] to exit!!! Have FUN, boys... I'm sure you'll have a BALL... :/ -- _____ _____ ------------------ {~._.~} * Astro Boy sets the pace, * {~._.~} "Glenn P.," _( Y )_ /| On your flight into space; |\ _( Y )_ (:_~*~_:) \| What can I do, to be like you? |/ (:_~*~_:) ------------------ (_)-(_) * And become a real Astro Boy? * (_)-(_) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:53:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06919 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:53:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA29443 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:49:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cafe.berkeley.edu (cafe.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.185.134]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA29436 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:49:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (brent@localhost) by cafe.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA03364 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:47:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:47:30 -0800 (PST) From: Brent Lee To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Colors, bold in Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering--how do you put colors and bold text into Pine documents? Thanks, -brent From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:59:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA27825 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA29514 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:56:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usr01.primenet.com (usr01.primenet.com [206.165.5.101]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA29510 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:55:55 -0800 Received: from ip083.lax.primenet.com (ip083.lax.primenet.com [204.212.59.83]) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id QAA11341 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:50:57 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <3307AADD.4B5@primenet.com> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:48:29 -0800 From: James Litzinger Reply-To: jimylitz@primenet.com Organization: Primenet X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Credit Repair Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please send information about your credit repair services. Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:43:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA27645 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:43:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA15578 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:40:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA15574 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:40:38 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 17 Feb 97 01:40:30 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA02350; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:38:21 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:38:21 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Lyndon Thickens cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What can be sent via e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Lyndon Thickens wrote: > I was wondering if anyone can give me a general idea of what can be >sent via e-mail. > If I understand correctly uuencoding is annoying past 500 bytes. That's nothing to do with that... Anything above 64k is undesirable (size of Intel's segments). Anything bigger than 1MB will not be accepted anywhere, especially not at AOL (does anyone care?). > How does FTP relate to pine ? (not that I even know what FTP is yet) Not at all. FTP is a Protocol to Transport Files. It's usually done via so called FTP-servers for which you need an extra account. > Is there some way for me to upload a file to my current directory from >my PC or is that only possible on the machine running pine ? Upload where? To an ftp-server? Yes, if you have an ftp-account or the permission to anonymously upload to an ftp-server. Other people can download from there. If you mean: can I send emails containing binary files, the answer is again yes. Just attach a file to your email. It's a _very_ good idea to compress it first, using e.g. PKzip, ARJ, Compress, Gzip... It's a *very* bad idea to post larger attachments to mailing lists and newsgroups, though. > Is there such a thing as FTP e-mail (I had better stop here before >I look "really stupid") [standard disclaimer: there are not stupid questions, just AOL-users...] ftp-email is a service provided by some servers. You send them an email requesting a file and get many nice emails in return. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:26:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28318 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16070 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:20:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16065 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:20:33 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 17 Feb 97 02:20:26 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA02473; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:42:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:42:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Brent Lee cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Colors, bold in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Brent Lee wrote: >I was wondering--how do you put colors and bold text into Pine documents? Not at all. Period. There are ways to do that, but that kind of stuff is unnecessary, annoying and potentially fatal for many users on text-terminals. Any further questions? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:26:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28007 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16061 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:20:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16057 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:20:28 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 17 Feb 97 02:20:20 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA02585 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:00:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:00:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: pine user-list Subject: pgp-pine checking for sigs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there. I've been nagging the author of pgp-pine (Roland Rosenfeld (wonderful piece of soft, check it out at: http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine) about the slow performance of the scripts. He again remarked that giving the user an opportunity to decide whether he wants to run pgp over a received message or not would be a nice function to have in pine. It can be quite annoying to wait for 5 secs for some message to decode when you know that it isn't for you personally. So, I'd like to second this proposal. Strongly... Any chance to see this implemented in a future version of pine? Aldo Valente has enhanced pgppine so that it "remembers" your pass phrase and lets you send messages in the display filter. He's still looking for beta-testers. The file can be found at: http://www.rhein.de/~aldo/pine.html Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:10:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA29601 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:10:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA02458 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:06:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA02454 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:06:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwKHk-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 20:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Do Not Forward Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:42:05 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 12 Feb 1997, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > Does anyone know how to prevent a message from being forwarded? Is there > a way to control this on a per-message basis, or is it a feature which can > be set/unset? We use v3.91 here, so it may be in a later version; if so > please let me know which. I don't think this is possible, no matter how the e-mail program is configured. In any case, the recipient can just save the message body into a file and then forward it off as a "new" message. Hope this helps. :) Eric Tse [ Internet E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ] World Wide Web Page : http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ HTML, CGI, JavaScript, Comics, Arcade / Video games, Perl and more... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:17:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA30072 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:17:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA03183 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:13:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA03178 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:13:00 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA01903; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:12:56 -0800 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:12:55 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: pgp-pine checking for sigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > I've been nagging the author of pgp-pine (Roland Rosenfeld > (wonderful piece of soft, check it out at: > http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine) > about the slow performance of the scripts. > > He again remarked that giving the user an opportunity to decide whether he > wants to run pgp over a received message or not would be a nice function to > have in pine. It can be quite annoying to wait for 5 secs for some message > to decode when you know that it isn't for you personally. So, I'd like to > second this proposal. Strongly... Any chance to see this implemented in a > future version of pine? Robin, Having a command that allows you to invoke filters after you are already viewing the message seems superfluous... How would such a command differ from the existing pipe command? (e.g. "|p" --if the script was given the name "p") -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:46:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA29897 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:46:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA19092 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:42:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA19088 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 21:42:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwLmO-00038qC; Sun, 16 Feb 97 21:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rsprague@cscu.csc.edu Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:21:10 -0600 Subject: Pine: problem with Inbox...HELP PLEASE!!! Message-ID: <856145721.6157@dejanews.com> Please help: When I log into my system to check my mail with pine my Inbox goes crazy. First off, a message comes up saying that it's checking the inbox for new messages which it does every time, but now it's taking an unusally long time(minutes rather than seconds). Then a message says that inbox was open with mail lock process 8001 and that the folder is read-only. So I can't delete any messages from the inbox. All of my other folders seem to be working fine, I can move files to and from them. I can save messages to other folders from the inbox, but they still won't delete and I've got close to 200 messages and growing. Also, every time I log in it still counts all the messages in the inbox as new, even if I've read them before. Does anybody out there know what's going on and can possibly help me? I've called my sys admin but she didn't know what was going on and said that she had never seen anything like this happen before. If you can help me please mail me direct. Thanks rs -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:15:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13644 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:15:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA03873 for pine-info-out; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:12:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03869 for ; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:11:57 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id WAA16491; Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:02:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 22:02:53 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Filtering problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know this isn't the right newsgroup for this question, but humor me. ;) I tried to set up a filter for my stepmom's e-mail (Linux - not sure of the version number), but so far I haven't figured out how to get it to work like mine. I use 'filter' with a simple 'filter-rules' file, and the .forward file. It works great on mine, and I expected a minor problem or two with hers (Murphy's Law), but I couldn't get it to work with incoming mail that didn't fall into any of the filter rules; in other words, if it didn't filter the mail, instead of putting it into the standard 'INBOX' file, it would generate a filter-error saying something about 'couldn't find lock file' and then put the message into a new file in her root directory call 'EMERGENCY-MBOX'. Here's a copy of her .forward file: "|/usr/bin/filter -vo /home/csmith/.elm/filter-errors" I tried it first with just the -o, later adding the v to make it -vo. Neither made any difference. Anyone out there ever had this trouble when setting up a filtering system for yourself? I had *no* problem with mine, and following Nancy McGough's FAQ under the '4.0 Filter' section gave me no clues for troubleshooting this particular problem. Or, can someone direct me to the appropriate FAQ or newsgroup for getting to the bottom of this dilemna. I'd rather keep it simple by using 'filter' rather than trying to install and set up something like procmail, which I have yet to sit down and try to do on my system, so I don't want to experiment too much on hers. Thanks in advance. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:40:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA31759 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:40:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA05568 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:37:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA05564 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:37:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwOVa-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 00:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Bonner Message-ID: <3302824D.1734@lgx.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:54:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've got pine set to auto-move-read-msgs into a folder called saved-mail. When I access my pine mailbox from Netscape via IMAP, or use a mail checking program that checks the number of messages in my mailbox via POP3, it creates a message at the beginning of the mail file that is from "From: Mail System Internal Data" and has a subject of: "Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA". This message is marked as read, or not marked as unread. I'm not sure how that mechanism works. Anyway, Pine moves it to my saved-mail folder, if I don't delete it. Is there any way to make pine ignore that particular message? Or is there a way to make the IMAP/POP3 server create the message with the Unread bit set? Wim. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:33:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA32096 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA06080 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:29:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from becker2.u.washington.edu (becker2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.68]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06076 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:29:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (shung@localhost) by becker2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA07485 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:29:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 01:29:06 -0800 (PST) From: "S. Hung" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom it may concern, My login name for Dante is shung. My name is Stephen. Some hope I am not able to sent any message from my Dante account. It saids on the bottom Mial not sent.sending error: 452 ...insuffic Please help. Thank you very much. I am only able to use my becker account to sent mail. Sincerely, Stephen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:08:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA32587 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:08:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA21985 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:05:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.gti.net (apollo.gti.net [199.171.27.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA21981 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:05:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (c128user@localhost) by apollo.gti.net (4.1/4.1) with SMTP id FAA07660 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:05:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:05:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Glenn P.," Reply-To: "Glenn P.," To: Pine Suggestion Subject: CRITICISM/SUGGESTIONS: Re The "Newpassword" Command... Message-ID: Followup-To: "Glenn P.," X-Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," Receipt-To: "Glenn P.," Organization: GlobalNet Telecom Inc. Info: 1-(201)-285-9099 or X-Gibberish: The Elephant says "Tusk, tusk!". Contents: Original Message. Distribution: Internet E-Mail. Expiration: 30 Jun 1997 Expires: 30 Jun 1997 X-No-Archive: Yes Sensitivity: Normal Precedence: Normal Priority: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nestled among the "Setup" items (from the Main Menu) is the "Newpassword" command. Invoking it gives you the most ATROCIOUS screen I have ever seen in Unix Pine: a BLANK SCREEN with NOTHING ON IT AT ALL except the cryptic notation, "Changing password for on " plus a request for your "Old password"! In a program such as Pine, with its constant offerings of options and context-sensitive help, this is, to say the very least, disconcerting. It gives the user the uneasy feeling that he has just been abaondoned. In fact, the user HAS just been abandoned! There is... o NO context-sensitive help; o In fact, NO help at ALL; o NO information as to what this command does -- at least, none readily findeable in the course of casual experimentation! o NO way to abort it in the usual manner -- a CONTROL-C is not honored; o NO indication on how to abort it (a blank carriage return on the first prompt will do this, but we Mere Lowly Users are never told this); and o Absolutely NO warning WHATEVER that what you are about to do is to change your LOGIN password, and NOT merely to add some sort of password protection to Pine itself. I would be very hard put to conceive of a more User-UNfriendly situation; this is not only frustrating and perverse, it can be DANGEROUS! I can't *begin* to imagine what the hell you guys were smoking the day you came up with this one! To me, this is damned inexcusable. It is a TOTAL DISGRACE to a program that is RENOWNED the WORLD OVER for being *completely* User-Friendly. Not only is this a letdown to your users, it would appear to be a lapse in YOUR OWN DESIGN GOALS! Remember these...?: "...Our goal was to provide a mailer that naive users could use *without fear of making mistakes.* [Emphasis added.] We wanted to cater to users who were less interested in learning the mechanics of using electronic mail than in doing their jobs; users who perhaps had some computer anxiety. We felt the way to do this was to have a system that *didn't do surprising things and provided immediate feedback on each operation..."* [Emphasis added.] --Pine Project History. --= AND =-- "...- *Pine must be very tolerant of user errors.* [Emphasis added.] Any time a user is about to perform an irreversible act (send a message, expunge messages from a folder), Pine should ask for confirmation. "- *Users should be able to learn by exploration without fear of doing anything wrong.* [Emphasis added.] This is an important feature so the user can get started quickly without reading any manuals and so fewer manuals are required..." --Pine Technical Notes, Version 3.95, July 1996. Frankly, it just doesn't seem that the "Newpassword" command complies with these lofty standards at all! SUGGESTIONS: =========== Personally, I would prefer that the "Newpassword" command be REMOVED. It doesn't belong in Pine anyway, since it's really a Unix management command and not Pine-related at all. But if you INSIST on keeping it, here are a couple of ways in which it might be made more user-friendly: FIRST, there should AT THE VERY LEAST be "^G Get Help" and "^C Cancel" functions. "Get Help" should print text somewhat similar to what I suggest below; whereas Control-C should abort immediately to the Main Menu, without -- and I will repeat that, WITHOUT -- implementing ANY change in password. Even better still would be a short explanatory message displayed at the top of the screen. You might have something like the following: "This function is offered as a convenience to those users who use Pine as their start-up screen. It is not really a function of Pine; rather, it offers a convenient way of changing the system password used at LOGIN, when you start a new Unix session." Such a message could be improved even further by adding (of course you'd have to implement it first): "You can quit this function at any time by typing Control-C." In my opinion these SHOULD have been put in place when the command was first impleneted... but hey, better late than never, right? :/ -- _____ _____ ------------------ {~._.~} * Astro Boy sets the pace, * {~._.~} "Glenn P.," _( Y )_ /| On your flight into space; |\ _( Y )_ (:_~*~_:) \| What can I do, to be like you? |/ (:_~*~_:) ------------------ (_)-(_) * And become a real Astro Boy? * (_)-(_) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:50:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30262 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:50:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22413 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:44:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from muscat.geoquest.slb.com (omjs04.muscat.geoquest.slb.com [163.183.5.29]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA22409 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:44:28 -0800 Received: from omjs09 (omjs09.muscat.geoquest.slb.com) by muscat.geoquest.slb.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15794; Mon, 17 Feb 97 14:52:31+040 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:47:57 -0400 (GMT) From: "Samir Arora - Schlumberger GeoQuest,Oman" X-Sender: samir@omjs09 To: Kenny Elliott Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 dieing! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Check whether they are not accessing their mails using some other programs like Eudora or Netscape. This Happens when the new mails of account being accessed by multiple programms/users.Also Check whether the /var/mail is NFS mounted and may be due to network problem the net traffic gets Jammed. This error also comes if you are unable to access the Mails due to network problems. Hope this helps Regards Samir On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Kenny Elliott wrote: > > Hi all: > > Got a strange problem here we can't seem to work out. We are > sunning Pine 3.95 on a Solaris 2.5 box. Pine works great for most users, > however, for some it keeps giving an INBOX access error. I thought it > might be the volume of mail that these users were getting but it turns out > that I get much more mail then they do. I have checked all permissions and > they match with my working pine's folder permissions. I have tried > deleteing all of there folders and rc files. I have even copied my rc file > over to there's. Basicly they are set-up exactly as my working account is > (even checked mesg status) but they get this error and I NEVER do. > Suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > \/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/ > Kenny Elliott kenny@wild.net > System Administrator http://www.wild.net/~kenny > Wild.Net L.L.C. 504-875-9453 > \/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/*\/ > > > ***************************************************************************************** Samir Arora Ph: 968 562522 Ext 216 Geoquest, fax : 968 562329 Schlumberger Overseas S.A. PO 2548 Postal Code 112 Internet:samir@muscat.geoquest.slb.com Ruwi,Sultanate of Oman ****************************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:52:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA18588 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22464 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:47:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA22457 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 02:47:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwQXx-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 02:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: CC: 'ing automatically Date: 11 Feb 1997 14:11:08 EST Message-ID: References: On 11 Feb 1997 10:05:24 -0800, Michael Rosenstark wrote: >I am using UNIX pine, version 3.91, and I was wondering if anyone knew >how to set the program to always CC: a particular address (a default CC:, >if you will) Just add 'Cc: someone@somewhere.com' as a Customized-header in your Config screen (Main/Setup/Config). And since 'Cc: is already in the Default-composer-header variable (by default), any new mail you start to compose will have the 'Cc: someone@somewhere.com' value already pre-inserted! Voila! I just tried it out and it works just as I have described. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:32:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA00828 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:32:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA08245 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:27:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA08241 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 04:27:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwSAG-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 04:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Configuration Question Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:54:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Feb 1997, Beth Protz wrote: > [part of the post omitted] > > For some reason, when I upload a text file from my word-processing program to > Pine, it's placing a blank line between each line of text. > > Can this be stopped? When you are preparing a message to send out over the Internet -- which is why I presume you are uploading it so that Pine can do something with it -- I strongly urge that you do not use a word processing program at all: use a text editor. Unless users are knowledgeable and sophisticated in using their programs correctly, my observation has been that word processors cause a lot of grief, because what people see on their screens is often *NOT* what winds up going out to the world. Word processors tend to do a lot of internal jiggery-pokery with files which is not transferable to the larger world out there. One simply cannot assume that what they see is what their recipients will see -- frequently the recipients see a lot of garbage-looking characters, overlength lines, blank lines, and so on. Preparing files with a word processor for transmission is a tricky business. Word processors definitely have a place in this world, but I am not convinced that preparing files for transmission via Pine is that place. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:12:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01473 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:12:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24173 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:08:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24169 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 05:08:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwSkW-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 05:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: reloading INBOX Date: 14 Feb 1997 13:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <5e2a0l$1t0@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Jason Englander wrote: : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: : > Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the : > currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm : > looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without : > actually having to quit and restart pine. : Hit x when you're looking at the index of messages in that folder. Related, but different problem comes to mind. Pine queries INBOX and other (remote) mailboxes as to whether there's any new messages at given periodic interval( specifed somewhere in Configuration menu), so that I can't see new messages unitl next time Pine checks INBOX even if they're already saved in INBOX. Is there any way to enforce Pine to renew the current "image" of INBOX ? If not, adding the feature would be nice. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:23:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA01929 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:23:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA09416 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:18:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA09412 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:18:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwTsm-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 06:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kshapiro@julian.uwo.ca (J. Kivi Shapiro) Subject: Re: Signature. Must it be put at top? Date: 17 Feb 1997 05:46:01 GMT Message-ID: <5e8rap$g4q@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> References: In article , Matthew Schinckel wrote: >I can't understand why anyone would want their sig at the top. >Anyone? Sometimes it's useful to put the reply at the top -- kind of like appending a copy of the message to which you are replying. I agree that it shouldn't be the default, though. - Kivi -- kshapiro@julian.uwo.ca or kivi@pobox.com (Kivi Shapiro) It's all right. I'm a librarian. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:26:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA01906 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:26:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA25006 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:22:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from buffnet1.buffnet.net (buffnet1.buffnet.net [205.246.19.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA25002 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 06:22:02 -0800 Received: from buffnet3.buffnet.net by buffnet1.buffnet.net id aa27253; 17 Feb 97 9:22 EST Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:22:13 -0500 (EST) From: ROSEK To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing in telenet Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't print my email messages in telenet. How do I set-up my printer to print? I have an Epson LQ-800 printer. rosek@buffnet.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:10:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02308 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:10:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25530 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:06:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA25526 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:06:41 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA24036 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:05:04 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id SAA11101; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:03:35 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:03:34 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list cc: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5e2a0l$1t0@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Feb 1997, Jungshik Shin wrote: > Related, but different problem comes to mind. Pine queries INBOX and > other (remote) mailboxes as to whether there's any new messages at given > periodic interval( specifed somewhere in Configuration menu), so that I > can't see new messages unitl next time Pine checks INBOX even if they're > already saved in INBOX. Is there any way to enforce Pine to renew the > current "image" of INBOX ? If not, adding the feature would be > nice. > If I remember right, if you press Next key when on the last message in folder, Pine will check for new messages in this folder. I rarely use this feature, as I don't get new mail every 15 seconds ;-) greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA01869 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:17:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA10138 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:14:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA10134 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:14:40 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:11:50 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA10616; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:14:05 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:14:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: ADAM Sulmicki cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Will these be in 4.0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > ->> 3: Notification of new mail in the folders listing. > ->> > ->> Mailing lists for the mail, procmail for the filtering, and the $10k > ->> question, which mailboxes have mail *THIS* week. Checking 20-30 mailboxes > ->> each time I check mail (multiple times a day) is tedious. Wouldn't a simple > ->> file with a timestamp of the last check by pine v. the current timestamp on > ->> the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders? An easier way of managing multiple incoming folders is to list them as "incoming folders" ;-) You can do this by setting the "enable-incoming-folders" option in Pine's configuration screen. You should also read its help entry whilst there to see what it does. After setting up your incoming folders you can just use the Tab key to move between them. Within a folder this searches for the next "interesting" (unseen) message. When there aren't any more in the current folder Pine offers to check through your other incoming folders looking for one with some recently arrived messages. (Note: "recently arrived" isn't the same as "unseen".) > However, the feature which I really miss is the 'threaded folder' ie that > I can have all mail sorted by time it came by inbox, yet still have all > followups to given subject under the first email w/ this subject. The closest you can get (as you probably know?) is "Ordered Subject", which sorts first by Subject text and then by Date. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:25:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02449 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:25:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA10103 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:12:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA10099 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:12:13 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:05:04 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA07262; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:07:12 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:07:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > Hmm.. that sounds interesting. > > But it is still not what I am looking for. Say procmail siphons off my mail > into 3 of such incoming folders that I defined as above. Looking at Pine, > which is displaying my INBOX (primary incoming mail), I have *no* way to know > exactly how many messages are waiting for me in each of my other folders in my > incoming folder collections. > > I like the way Pine changes my Xterm icon/title to tell me that '3 new > messages. Most recent from John Doe'. It only does this for your INBOX folder (plus the currently open folder if not the INBOX). In particular it does not monitor the other "incoming-folders" folders to watch for new mail arriving into them. I suspect this is partly for efficiency's sake: every additional folder that has to be monitored is yet another IMAP connection to the mail server machine. > Is there a way I can get similar functionality (a summary report) of all my > new messages in all my incoming folders? Or am I asking too much from Pine? You're asking too much, I'm afraid. > From what you say, the only option I have is to merrily along blindly! > What I am looking for is a cure screen that I can invoke on-demand that tells > me the number of new messages in each of my incoming folders! Well, not quite blindly... I think it skips over any subsequent incoming-folders which don't have any recent messages in them. > Also, Pine does not beep or do anything special when a message is filtered off > into a incoming folder other than INBOX. In a given day, say I am working with > Pine iconized, how am I going to tell that procmail just did a bit of work and > channelled a mail to folder XXX? You can't (see above). I guess you'll have to start looking at running some sort of "newmail" script in the background if you want this. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:31:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02379 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25734 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:26:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw2.att.com (kcgw2.att.com [192.128.133.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA25730 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:26:02 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by kcig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id JAA26524; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:20:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00756; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:25:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:25:39 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: "Daniel M. Griswold" Original-cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 15 Feb 1997, Daniel M. Griswold wrote: > For a while I did something similar to what (aparently) you want to do. > And I found that Pine handles your concern fairly well. If you have > incoming folders set up properly in your .pinerc, then when you are done > reading all the mail in your Inbox, hitting tab should bring you to the > next folder with unread mail. If no unread mail, then you won't be forced > to look at the folder. I say this based on my recollection, so I > apologize if I am in error. Hmm.. that sounds interesting. But it is still not what I am looking for. Say procmail siphons off my mail into 3 of such incoming folders that I defined as above. Looking at Pine, which is displaying my INBOX (primary incoming mail), I have *no* way to know exactly how many messages are waiting for me in each of my other folders in my incoming folder collections. I like the way Pine changes my Xterm icon/title to tell me that '3 new messages. Most recent from John Doe'. Is there a way I can get similar functionality (a summary report) of all my new messages in all my incoming folders? Or am I asking too much from Pine? From what you say, the only option I have is to merrily along blindly! What I am looking for is a cure screen that I can invoke on-demand that tells me the number of new messages in each of my incoming folders! Also, Pine does not beep or do anything special when a message is filtered off into a incoming folder other than INBOX. In a given day, say I am working with Pine iconized, how am I going to tell that procmail just did a bit of work and channelled a mail to folder XXX? More importantly, this method forces me to read mail in a extremely *linear* fashion and to an extent, blindly! I cant see that Oh! Folder XXX has 10 messages, let me go there first. I *have* to through junk until I get to Folder XXX. Of course, I can always Goto Folder XXX but then that defeats the purpose, right? I want a summary screen of how many new messages are there in each of my incoming folders! Oh well.. I guess I am asking for too much... > The problem that I was never able to solve was now to get the frm command > to display new messages from these other folders. For some reason, frm > (and related commands) could not seem to discern message status well on > folders other than Inbox. What 'frm' command are you referring to? Thanks for responding, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:31:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02510 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:31:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25756 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:28:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA25752 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:28:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwUw6-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 07:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert de Bath Subject: MIME message/partial Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:09:37 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Very simple question; I've got 30 messages each of MIME type message/partial, how do I tell pine to stick them together ?! -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:44:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02701 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:44:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25907 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:37:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA25903 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:37:23 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 17 Feb 97 16:37:15 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA00915; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:58:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:58:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Glenn P.," cc: Pine Suggestion Subject: off-topic, was: Re: CRITICISM/SUGGESTIONS: Re The "Newpassword" , Command... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII [I didn't snip most of the text...] /---->flame on On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Glenn P., whined: >Nestled among the "Setup" items (from the Main Menu) is the "Newpassword" >command. Invoking it gives you the most ATROCIOUS screen I have ever seen >in Unix Pine: a BLANK SCREEN with NOTHING ON IT AT ALL except the cryptic >notation, "Changing password for on " plus a request >for your "Old password"! > >In a program such as Pine, with its constant offerings of options and >context-sensitive help, this is, to say the very least, disconcerting. >It gives the user the uneasy feeling that he has just been abaondoned. ^^^^ you >In fact, the user HAS just been abandoned! In fact, you haven't read the help. >There is... o NO context-sensitive help; > o In fact, NO help at ALL; > o NO information as to what this command does -- > at least, none readily findeable in the > course of casual experimentation! > o NO way to abort it in the usual manner -- > a CONTROL-C is not honored; > o NO indication on how to abort it (a blank > carriage return on the first prompt will > do this, but we Mere Lowly Users are never > told this); and > o Absolutely NO warning WHATEVER that what you > are about to do is to change your LOGIN > password, and NOT merely to add some sort > of password protection to Pine itself. So? If you're on a u*ix system, the first thing you need to do is to set up your own password. What's the point, then? >I would be very hard put to conceive of a more User-UNfriendly situation; >this is not only frustrating and perverse, it can be DANGEROUS! I can't >*begin* to imagine what the hell you guys were smoking the day you came >up with this one! Yes, I've been pondering a very similar problem lately. I've found a solution, though: It's called "kill file" and contains things like: @GTI.Net >To me, this is damned inexcusable. It is a TOTAL DISGRACE to a program that >is RENOWNED the WORLD OVER for being *completely* User-Friendly. Man, you really got us all there. [snipped GIANT soapbox] Gist: If you're dumb enough to screw up your password, you'd better use Winword to write your mails. >SUGGESTIONS: >=========== >Personally, I would prefer that the "Newpassword" command be REMOVED. It >doesn't belong in Pine anyway, since it's really a Unix management >command and not Pine-related at all. Yeah, especially for those users on systems that only have email-login shells... >But if you INSIST on keeping it, here are a couple of ways in which it >might be made more user-friendly: ^^^^ loser-friendly, you mean? >FIRST, there should AT THE VERY LEAST be "^G Get Help" and "^C Cancel" >functions. "Get Help" should print text somewhat similar to what I suggest >below; whereas Control-C should abort immediately to the Main Menu, without >-- and I will repeat that, WITHOUT -- implementing ANY change in password. ^^^^^^ Oh, good! I really didn't get it in the first place... [snipped some more stuff...] >-- _____ _____ > ------------------ {~._.~} * Astro Boy sets the pace, * > {~._.~} "Glenn P.," _( Y )_ /| On your flight into space; |\ _( Y > )_ (:_~*~_:) \| What can I do, to be like you? |/ > (:_~*~_:) (_)-(_) * And become a real Astro Boy? * (_)-(_) Oops... Get a life... flame off---->/ Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Flamewar Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:50:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02635 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA10468 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:44:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA10464 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 07:44:16 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:41:30 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA22373; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:43:36 GMT Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:43:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "Glenn P.," cc: Pine Suggestion Subject: Re: CRITICISM/SUGGESTIONS: Re The "Newpassword" Command... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hmmmm.... What a strongly worded suggestion! ;-} Pine's "Setup NewPassword" command invokes whatever command your System Administrator has set it up to use. Pine can't offer context-sensitive help about something it knows nothing about; the best it can do is to show you the command's prompts, which it does. The output you describe is actually the standard UNIX command to change your password, usually invoked as "passwd" or "yppasswd", if memory serves. You could try suggesting to your System Administrator to "wrap up" the change password functionality inside a friendlier script and have Pine invoke that. If seeing the NewPassword option present in Setup really offends you so much, you can suppress it by setting the: disable-password-cmd configuration option in either your personal or the systemwide Pine configuration file. (Note that this option is really intended for the System Administrator to use in the systemwide file, rather than users in their personal files. Ergo there is no easy user interface to set this variable in Pine's Setup Configuration screen; you will need to edit the .pinerc file with a text editor.) By the way, if you want to send a suggestion to the Pine Team the easiest and best way is to use Pine's "B" (Bug) command at its Main Menu screen. Look for the "Suggestions" option in the menu screen that follows; this will start composing a message to the proper suggestions e-mail address: Pine Developers rather than Pine-Info, which is a general discussion forum. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Glenn P., wrote: > Nestled among the "Setup" items (from the Main Menu) is the "Newpassword" > command. Invoking it gives you the most ATROCIOUS screen I have ever seen > in Unix Pine: a BLANK SCREEN with NOTHING ON IT AT ALL except the cryptic > notation, "Changing password for on " plus a request > for your "Old password"! > > In a program such as Pine, with its constant offerings of options and > context-sensitive help, this is, to say the very least, disconcerting. > It gives the user the uneasy feeling that he has just been abaondoned. > In fact, the user HAS just been abandoned! > > There is... o NO context-sensitive help; > o In fact, NO help at ALL; > o NO information as to what this command does -- > at least, none readily findeable in the > course of casual experimentation! > o NO way to abort it in the usual manner -- > a CONTROL-C is not honored; > o NO indication on how to abort it (a blank > carriage return on the first prompt will > do this, but we Mere Lowly Users are never > told this); and > o Absolutely NO warning WHATEVER that what you > are about to do is to change your LOGIN > password, and NOT merely to add some sort > of password protection to Pine itself. > > I would be very hard put to conceive of a more User-UNfriendly situation; this > is not only frustrating and perverse, it can be DANGEROUS! I can't *begin* to > imagine what the hell you guys were smoking the day you came up with this one! > > To me, this is damned inexcusable. It is a TOTAL DISGRACE to a program that > is RENOWNED the WORLD OVER for being *completely* User-Friendly. > > Not only is this a letdown to your users, it would appear to be a lapse in > YOUR OWN DESIGN GOALS! Remember these...?: > > "...Our goal was to provide a mailer that naive users could use *without > fear of making mistakes.* [Emphasis added.] We wanted to cater to users > who were less interested in learning the mechanics of using electronic > mail than in doing their jobs; users who perhaps had some computer > anxiety. We felt the way to do this was to have a system that *didn't > do surprising things and provided immediate feedback on each > operation..."* [Emphasis added.] > --Pine Project History. > > --= AND =-- > > "...- *Pine must be very tolerant of user errors.* [Emphasis added.] > Any time a user is about to perform an irreversible act (send a > message, expunge messages from a folder), Pine should ask for > confirmation. > > "- *Users should be able to learn by exploration without fear of > doing anything wrong.* [Emphasis added.] This is an important > feature so the user can get started quickly without reading any > manuals and so fewer manuals are required..." > --Pine Technical Notes, > Version 3.95, July 1996. > > Frankly, it just doesn't seem that the "Newpassword" command complies with > these lofty standards at all! > > SUGGESTIONS: > =========== > Personally, I would prefer that the "Newpassword" command be REMOVED. It > doesn't belong in Pine anyway, since it's really a Unix management command > and not Pine-related at all. But if you INSIST on keeping it, here are a > couple of ways in which it might be made more user-friendly: > > FIRST, there should AT THE VERY LEAST be "^G Get Help" and "^C Cancel" > functions. "Get Help" should print text somewhat similar to what I suggest > below; whereas Control-C should abort immediately to the Main Menu, without > -- and I will repeat that, WITHOUT -- implementing ANY change in password. > > Even better still would be a short explanatory message displayed at the > top of the screen. You might have something like the following: > > > "This function is offered as a convenience to those users > who use Pine as their start-up screen. It is not really > a function of Pine; rather, it offers a convenient way > of changing the system password used at LOGIN, when you > start a new Unix session." > > > Such a message could be improved even further by adding (of course you'd > have to implement it first): > > > "You can quit this function at any time by typing Control-C." > > > In my opinion these SHOULD have been put in place when the command was > first impleneted... but hey, better late than never, right? :/ > > -- _____ _____ > ------------------ {~._.~} * Astro Boy sets the pace, * {~._.~} > "Glenn P.," _( Y )_ /| On your flight into space; |\ _( Y )_ > (:_~*~_:) \| What can I do, to be like you? |/ (:_~*~_:) > ------------------ (_)-(_) * And become a real Astro Boy? * (_)-(_) > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:22:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA03432 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:22:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA11618 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:13:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA11614 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:13:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwWcS-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 09:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MARCUS25 Subject: Re: reloading INBOX Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:40:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> when you are in the index of that folder just hit x and it will ask you if you want to expunge those messages just hit y! if you are in a newsgroup just hit tab and it will go to the next news group and take those messages away! Marcus On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the > currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm > looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without > actually having to quit and restart pine. > > Thanks, > > Joshua Lerner > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:56:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA03807 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA12172 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:49:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12167 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 09:49:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA17012 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:48:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:48:16 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net Reply-To: Paul Kayak To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is suggested for getting Filter or Listproc (for sorting-to- INBOX?) How does one get rid of a second (INBOX B) in one's Incoming Folder "host", when it wants to keep coming back? - Paul --- "To have doubted one's first principles is the mark of a civilized man." - Oliver Wendel Homes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:47:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA03990 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA12915 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:41:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA12910 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:40:59 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA12012 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 97 13:40:57 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id NAA14809; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:35:29 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:35:29 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: rsprague@cscu.csc.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine: problem with Inbox...HELP PLEASE!!! In-Reply-To: <856145721.6157@dejanews.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sounds to me like you've got another process (or session of Pine) which is locking the INBOX. That would cause both symptoms you're describing. Make sure you're not running Pine on another terminal and if you still get the same message, you must've disconnected ungracefully and left a lock file behind somewhere. Have your SA look in /var/mail and /var/spool/locks for stray lockfiles with your name on them. Joe:D On Sun, 16 Feb 1997 rsprague@cscu.csc.edu wrote: > Please help: > > When I log into my system to check my mail with pine my Inbox goes crazy. > First off, a message comes up saying that it's checking the inbox for > new messages which it does every time, but now it's taking an unusally > long time(minutes rather than seconds). Then a message says that inbox > was open with mail lock process 8001 and that the folder is read-only. > So I can't delete any messages from the inbox. All of my other folders > seem to be working fine, I can move files to and from them. I can save > messages to other folders from the inbox, but they still won't delete and > I've got close to 200 messages and growing. Also, every time I log in it > still counts all the messages in the inbox as new, even if I've read them > before. Does anybody out there know what's going on and can possibly help > me? I've called my sys admin but she didn't know what was going on and > said that she had never seen anything like this happen before. > > If you can help me please mail me direct. > > Thanks > > rs > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:19:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA04676 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:19:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28899 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:08:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28895 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 11:08:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwYNY-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 11:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:18:44 -0800 Subject: Re: Duplication of posts in comp.mail.PINE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ## Note: This is 3 days later and the third time I see following message. Today's additions prefied with _##_. On Fri, 14 Feb 1997 hinotru@global.california.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:11:46 -0800 > From: hinotru@global.california.com > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Duplication of posts in comp.mail.PINE > > > At lease once a day I read PINEmail, such as this. ## least > Quite often there is a sense of _deja-vu_ as the same questions > and answers seem to reappear hours to perhaps a day later. > My standard reading techniques include, reading, evaluating the > message for future use and using the _D_ key followed by _Y_ to exclude ## _D, X, & Y_ in that order. > those messages. I went through 80+ posts the other evening and > methodically _excluded_ 90% of them. > > Lo and behold, the next day saw three or four reappear. ## We are now in the third day and I'm using even more bandwidth! > > My thinking is that my ISP probably has more than one source for this > newsfeed and so as no two other sites are polled at the same time the > consequence is duplication of posts separated by time. > > As a sidebar: At a USENET site I notice the same _deja-news_. Is this > typical of _fail-safe_ thinking with resultant redundacy or is it > something simpler that maybe application of a filtering program > may prevent or at least reduce? > > No hurry or crying need for responses . . . The sky isn't falling. ## yet. > Thankyou ## again for your time/ > hinotru From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:08:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA04695 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14239 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:03:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14235 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:03:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwZGn-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 12:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete Date: 13 Feb 1997 00:32:43 GMT Message-ID: References: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S. Socha): > > > mark all messages read or mark them to delete with one key stroke ? > >;aad > >(RTFM) > Cool remark. Congrats... > What Mr. Schinkel forgot to mention, though, is that you need to make a > slight adjustment to your S(etup) C(onfiguration) for that, namely: > [X] enable-aggregate-command-set > Otherwise that command won't do anything. He also forgot to mention that the computer needs to be ON, too. If people cannot be bothered to RTFM then they need to be told! Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [rtfm] RTFM "While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. RTFM It's a Spanish story about a guy named `Manual'" - Dilbert RTFM http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/rtfm/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:17:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA02264 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA00143 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:13:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA00139 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:13:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwZPN-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 12:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arifi@war.dmi.stevens-tech.edu (M. Arifi Koseoglu) Subject: [Q] Emacs RMAIL - Pine conversion Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:03:27 GMT Message-ID: Hello people, II wonder whether thereis any way to convert emacs' RMAIL file into a pine mail folder ? Will greatly appreciate any pointers, Thanks in advance, Arifi -- Arifi Koseoglu arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:38:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA31604 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14872 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:33:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA14868 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:33:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwZgh-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 12:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Deleting folder Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 10:18:40 +930 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Gary wrote: > Hi guys ...how do I go about deleting this irritating folder? I highlight > it and press (D)elete but it says it can't open and can't delete it! What > gives? Is it an Incoming Folder? If so, I had the same problem on PMDF Pine. I solved it by exiting Pine, and starting up $ MAIL, and deleting it from there. Pine won't let you delete a folder it can't open. - which is bad news if you type the wrong stuff into the incoming folder creation sequence...:-) Matt. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:40:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05875 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14856 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:33:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu (bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA14850 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:33:16 -0800 Received: from localhost (bf17922@localhost) by bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu (8.8.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA27744 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:34:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 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12:48:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15171 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:48:29 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id MAA19080; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:38:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:37:58 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Matthew Schinckel wrote: > On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Gary wrote: > > > Hi guys ...how do I go about deleting this irritating folder? I highlight > > it and press (D)elete but it says it can't open and can't delete it! What > > gives? > > Is it an Incoming Folder? > > If so, I had the same problem on PMDF Pine. I solved it by exiting Pine, > and starting up $ MAIL, and deleting it from there. > Pine won't let you delete a folder it can't open. - which is bad news if > you type the wrong stuff into the incoming folder creation sequence...:-) You can also get that if it's a subdirectory; Pine displays it like a folder, but it can't open a subdirectory. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:54:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05905 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:54:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15205 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:50:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ahu003.abh.vw.com (ahu003.abh.vw.com [199.5.32.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15201 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:50:19 -0800 Received: from conversion.ahu003.abh.vw.com by ahu003.abh.vw.com (PMDF V5.1-5 #16383) id <0E5RLUB0100MTK@ahu003.abh.vw.com> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from usvwoaahd05.abh.vw.com by ahu003.abh.vw.com (PMDF V5.1-5 #16383) with SMTP id <0E5RLUACF00IA0@ahu003.abh.vw.com> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:49:23 -0500 (EST) Received: by usvwoaahd05.abh.vw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC1CEA.8622E4D0@usvwoaahd05.abh.vw.com>; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:52:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:52:04 -0500 From: "Carey, Steven" Subject: PC Pine Help File To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, I downloaded the zip'd up pcp_w32 file and its working fine. The only problem I have is the .hlp file included with the archive isn't usable. When I try to use help within Pine, the client locks up, if I try to run the .hlp file from File Manager, I get a message stating that the help file isn't a windows help file or the file is corrupt. Has anyone seen this before? I've recently subscribed to this list so I apologize in advance if this issue has been discussed before on this list. Thanks, Steve Carey Steven.Carey@vw.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:00:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA06099 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA01032 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:57:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA01025 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 12:57:51 -0800 Received: from sphinx.vvm.com (mike.vvm.com [204.189.115.41]) by ns.vvm.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with ESMTP id OAA01938 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:57:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199702172057.OAA01938@ns.vvm.com> From: "Michael Cannon" To: Subject: PC-PINE Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:57:49 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a packet driver available that will use the Windows WINSOCK.DLL (or WINSCK32.DLL)..?? I want to use the PC-PINE for packet drivers.. but under Windows NT (via telnet).. Please reply here and via email! Thanks! -cannon@vvm.com -Mike -VVM ---------- > From: M. Arifi Koseoglu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: [Q] Emacs RMAIL - Pine conversion > Date: Monday, February 17, 1997 2:03 PM > > > Hello people, > > II wonder whether thereis any way to convert emacs' RMAIL file > into a pine mail folder ? > > Will greatly appreciate any pointers, > Thanks in advance, > Arifi > -- > Arifi Koseoglu > arifi@dmi.stevens-tech.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:30:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA06505 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA15868 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:27:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA15862 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:27:21 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA12070; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:27:18 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:27:17 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Carey, Steven" cc: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: Re: PC Pine Help File In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII PC-Pine's help file is intended to be used by pine (not the MS file mgr) in conjunction with the pine.ndx file, which contains the help file index information. Make sure pine.exe, pine.hlp, and pine.ndx are all present in the same folder. -teg On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Carey, Steven wrote: > Hello, > > I downloaded the zip'd up pcp_w32 file and its working fine. The only > problem I have is the .hlp file included with the archive isn't usable. > When I try to use help within Pine, the client locks up, if I try to run > the .hlp file from File Manager, I get a message stating that the help > file isn't a windows help file or the file is corrupt. Has anyone seen > this before? I've recently subscribed to this list so I apologize in > advance if this issue has been discussed before on this list. > > Thanks, > Steve Carey > Steven.Carey@vw.com > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:47:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA01673 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA01787 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:37:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ahu003.abh.vw.com (ahu003.abh.vw.com [199.5.32.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA01783 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:37:32 -0800 Received: from conversion.ahu003.abh.vw.com by ahu003.abh.vw.com (PMDF V5.1-5 #16383) id <0E5RO0Z010009B@ahu003.abh.vw.com> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from usvwoaahd05.abh.vw.com by ahu003.abh.vw.com (PMDF V5.1-5 #16383) with SMTP id <0E5RO0ZIB00IA0@ahu003.abh.vw.com> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:36:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by usvwoaahd05.abh.vw.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63) id <01BC1CF1.1E6087B0@usvwoaahd05.abh.vw.com>; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:39:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:39:16 -0500 From: "Carey, Steven" Subject: RE: PC Pine Help File To: "'Terry Gray'" Cc: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.994.63 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit All of the files are in the c:\pine directory from which pine is run. I'm running NT 4.0 and I tested with a 3.51 machine, same results, the pine client locks up. I let it sit for 5 minutes then had to kill the process. Any other ideas? TIA Steve >---------- >From: Terry Gray[SMTP:gray@cac.washington.edu] >Sent: Monday, February 17, 1997 4:27 PM >To: Carey, Steven; Carey, Steven >Cc: 'pine-info@cac.washington.edu' >Subject: Re: PC Pine Help File > > >PC-Pine's help file is intended to be used by pine (not the MS file mgr) >in conjunction with the pine.ndx file, which contains the help file index >information. Make sure pine.exe, pine.hlp, and pine.ndx are all present in >the same folder. > >-teg > >On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Carey, Steven wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I downloaded the zip'd up pcp_w32 file and its working fine. The only >> problem I have is the .hlp file included with the archive isn't usable. >> When I try to use help within Pine, the client locks up, if I try to run >> the .hlp file from File Manager, I get a message stating that the help >> file isn't a windows help file or the file is corrupt. Has anyone seen >> this before? I've recently subscribed to this list so I apologize in >> advance if this issue has been discussed before on this list. >> >> Thanks, >> Steve Carey >> Steven.Carey@vw.com >> > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:52:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA06548 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16109 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:42:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA16105 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:41:59 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA29899 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 97 16:41:56 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id QAA17822; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:18:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:18:24 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: ROSEK Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: printing in telenet In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How about we start with the basics: Is this a networked printer, or directly attached to your system? On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, ROSEK wrote: > I can't print my email messages in telenet. How do I set-up my printer > to print? I have an Epson LQ-800 printer. > > rosek@buffnet.net > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:28:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06922 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA16779 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:18:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA16774 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:18:14 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA12810; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:18:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 14:18:10 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Carey, Steven" cc: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" Subject: RE: PC Pine Help File In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry; none of our pc-pine users have ever reported these symptoms. -teg On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Carey, Steven wrote: > All of the files are in the c:\pine directory from which pine is run. > I'm running NT 4.0 and I tested with a 3.51 machine, same results, > the pine client locks up. I let it sit for 5 minutes then had to kill > the process. Any other ideas? > > TIA > Steve > > ---------- > From: Terry Gray[SMTP:gray@cac.washington.edu] > Sent: Monday, February 17, 1997 4:27 PM > To: Carey, Steven; Carey, Steven > Cc: 'pine-info@cac.washington.edu' > Subject: Re: PC Pine Help File > > > PC-Pine's help file is intended to be used by pine (not the MS file mgr) > in conjunction with the pine.ndx file, which contains the help file > index information. Make sure pine.exe, pine.hlp, and pine.ndx are all > present in the same folder. > > -teg > > On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Carey, Steven wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I downloaded the zip'd up pcp_w32 file and its working fine. The > only > > problem I have is the .hlp file included with the archive isn't > usable. > > When I try to use help within Pine, the client locks up, if I try to > run > > the .hlp file from File Manager, I get a message stating that the > help > > file isn't a windows help file or the file is corrupt. Has anyone > seen > > this before? I've recently subscribed to this list so I apologize > in > > advance if this issue has been discussed before on this list. > > > > Thanks, > > Steve Carey > > Steven.Carey@vw.com > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:06:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07236 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA17492 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:02:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (vigrid.cfar.umd.edu [128.8.132.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA17488 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:02:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id SAA20118; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:02:47 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:02:47 -0500 (EST) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Mike Brudenell cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Will these be in 4.0? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: ->On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: -> ->> ->> 3: Notification of new mail in the folders listing. ->> ->> ->> ->> Mailing lists for the mail, procmail for the filtering, and the $10k ->> ->> question, which mailboxes have mail *THIS* week. Checking 20-30 mailboxes ->> ->> each time I check mail (multiple times a day) is tedious. Wouldn't a simple ->> ->> file with a timestamp of the last check by pine v. the current timestamp on ->> ->> the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders? -> ->An easier way of managing multiple incoming folders is to list them as ->"incoming folders" ;-) -> ->You can do this by setting the "enable-incoming-folders" option in Pine's ->configuration screen. You should also read its help entry whilst there to ->see what it does. -> ->After setting up your incoming folders you can just use the Tab key to ->move between them. Within a folder this searches for the next ->"interesting" (unseen) message. When there aren't any more in the current ->folder Pine offers to check through your other incoming folders looking ->for one with some recently arrived messages. -> ->(Note: "recently arrived" isn't the same as "unseen".) How I could use the multiple folders w/out setting it ?? Anways, yeah I know about it, but it does not change fact that it is hardly useful when you have 15 or so incoming folders and each have few thousands emails, and 500 or new emails is coming per day. ->> However, the feature which I really miss is the 'threaded folder' ie that ->> I can have all mail sorted by time it came by inbox, yet still have all ->> followups to given subject under the first email w/ this subject. -> ->The closest you can get (as you probably know?) is "Ordered Subject", ->which sorts first by Subject text and then by Date. Yes, I know about it, but still it is little readable/helpful when there is few thousands email in a folder. -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:12:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA00313 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA17683 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:10:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA17676 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:10:19 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA07914 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 17 Feb 97 18:10:17 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id SAA03487; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:06:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:06:52 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Info Newsgroup Subject: New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's a good one...anybody ever see that message before? It pops up intermittently for no apparent reason, even when my terminal is sitting idle. What's interesting is that when I look at the mailboxes for Pine users on my system, the modification time seems to *never* change. It usually reads "Wed 31 Dec 1969" or something silly like that. Any clues? Joe:D From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:58:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA07290 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA04755 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:52:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post.cis.smu.edu (post.cis.smu.edu [129.119.64.23]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA04751 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:52:05 -0800 Received: by post.cis.smu.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.3) id ; Mon, 17 Feb 97 18:52 CST Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:52:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Daniel M. Griswold" X-Sender: dgriswol@post.cis.smu.edu To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Vikas, To recap for others (and make sure I'm on track): you want some way to tell how many (if any) new messages await you in each of your incoming folders, so that you may make your own choices of which messages to view. "Tabbing blindly" (nicely put, by whomever) is too linear and brute-force a method to satisfy you. And I agree. My attempt at a solution from some time ago was one that relied on the unix command 'frm'. What frm does is display information about mail folders. (It is the same as 'from', except that 'from' displays senders in uucp format, while 'frm' uses the person's name.) So, I used mine to tell me the status of my incoming folders if and only if they had new mail in them. I included the appropriate commands and structures in my .login file. The trouble was, the frm command could not acurately discern the status of folders other than Inbox until Pine had somehow "touched" them (for lack of a more precise term). To be more precise, this is what would happen: I would log into my account, I would get a message telling me that there were a certain number of messages in my Inbox (the regular folder, for non-filtered mail). And nothing else would appear. "Too bad," I would think. "No other mail." But then I would go into Pine, read my Inbox stuff, and then on a lark go to one of the other folders. And it would have stuff in there! Now if I then went out to Unix and ran the same command that was previously blind, it would now see. Go figure. Now I realize that you are using an X-Window system over top of Unix. And there I can't say any more. I have used X, but only a few times. Although the experience I have related here might give you some ideas to try out. Regards, Dan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Griswold internet: dgriswol@post.smu.edu 4747 N. Josey Lane #1210 dgriswold@austinc.edu Carrollton, TX 75010 amprnet: kc5gmr@wb5cqu.ampr.org phone: 972-394-2800 web: http://www.smu.edu/~dgriswol ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:58:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA09371 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA19948 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:54:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA19944 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:54:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vweky-000391C; Mon, 17 Feb 97 17:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Noam Nussbaum Subject: build pine-h on AIX 4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:32:09 GMT Message-ID: <32F4B379.41C6@tucci.technion.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi !! I tried to build pine3.95_heb2.07 on AIX 4 by the command :"build a32". But i recieved only messages like: The session id passed is not the name of an active session. Can someone help me with this strange behaviour of AIX 4? Thank You in Advance !! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:59:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA09375 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:58:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA05693 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:54:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA05687 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:54:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwekp-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 17:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bauerp@niagara.com (Patrick Bauer) Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: 2 Feb 1997 10:20:38 GMT Message-ID: <5d1ppm$s4b@cabernet.niagara.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also have this problem. The Linux user name that i use... differs from the ISP user name... and so i must telnet to the ISP's server... in order to send mail. Pat. >> I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via >> IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name than >> that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login name is my >> local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the correct one. > > I have an identical problem under Solaris 2.5. Any ideas? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:45:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA10365 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA07119 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA07115 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:39:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwgLK-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 19:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ali FAOUR Subject: Get rid of the notification BEEP Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:26:02 -0500 Message-ID: <3309052A.4E2656B0@ift.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi every body, I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Beep sound that notify the newcomming e-mails. I will be very grateful if you send me the answer to my e-mail address. I thank everyone of you for your help. Regards, E-mail : faour@ift.ulaval.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA10671 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA07604 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:07:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail3.voicenet.com (mail3.voicenet.com [207.103.0.45]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA07600 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:07:52 -0800 From: ryll@voicenet.com Received: from omni2.voicenet.com (ryll@omni2.voicenet.com [207.103.0.32]) by mail3.voicenet.com (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA08866 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:11:34 -0500 (EST) Received: (ryll@localhost) by omni2.voicenet.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) id XAA19400; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:06:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:06:30 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: ryll@omni2 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reply-to Address Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I change my reply-to address in pine? I'm not subscribed to this mailing list, so please email your response directly back to ryll@voicenet.com. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:48:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA09775 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA08040 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:43:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdlb.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.162]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA08036 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:43:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA10357; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:09:42 +0530 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:09:42 +0530 (IST) From: sonzy X-Sender: sonzy@giasdlb cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:08:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10182 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22551 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:05:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22533 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 21:04:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwhiE-00038qC; Mon, 17 Feb 97 21:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: streiner@co.iup.edu (Justin M. Streiner) Subject: pine and maildir Message-ID: Date: 16 Feb 97 15:13:05 EST Does pine presently, or will it in the future, support the maildir message format available from MTAs such as qmail? I didn't see anything about it in the docs. Thanks jms -- -- justin m streiner -------------------------------------------------------- Systems Administrator WINDOWS '95 BUG REPORT FORM IUP Math / Computer Science Please describe the bug in detail in email: streiner@co.iup.edu the space below. Write legibly. web: http://www.co.iup.edu/~streiner ____ [____] "...for when your packets absolutely, positively have to NOT get there on time..." -- JMS commenting on net traffic thru BA's Pittsburgh SMDS cloud From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:08:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11748 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:08:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA23576 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:05:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA23571 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:05:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwif5-000391C; Mon, 17 Feb 97 22:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Benny Chee Subject: [problem] X-Sender: benny@iris Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 12:15:43 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I had a problem with this x-sender thing. how come it does not show my full domain name? it should be X-Sender: benny@iris.eee.ntu.ac.sg can somebody help? Benny Chee :) | "I used to have a life, chchee@iti.gov.sg | but now I have a modem." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:45:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA12652 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA10583 for pine-info-out; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA10579 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:36:24 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id IAA13288; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:36:13 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id IAA02655; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:30:43 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Received: by mail.ife-le.de (Smail-3.2.0.91) with smtp; id for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:11:48 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:11:41 +0100 (MET) To: Patrick Bauer cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name In-Reply-To: <5d1ppm$s4b@cabernet.niagara.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Feb 1997, Patrick Bauer wrote: -> -> I also have this problem. The Linux user name that i use... differs from the ISP user name... and so i must telnet to the ISP's server... in order to send mail. -> -> Pat. -> -> >> I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via -> >> IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name than -> >> that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login name is my -> >> local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the correct one. -> > -> > I have an identical problem under Solaris 2.5. Any ideas? -> -> your inbox-configuration should be (with changes to actual values): {your.school.addr/user=your_username_on_school}inbox ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 03:17:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA14949 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 03:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA27706 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 03:13:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (vigrid.cfar.umd.edu [128.8.132.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27702 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 03:13:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id GAA27257; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:13:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 06:13:37 -0500 (EST) From: ADAM Sulmicki Reply-To: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: incoming-archive-folders anyone? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone out there using the feature : incoming-archive-folders ? I have troubles getting it to work. In my .pinerc I have defined an test folder as shown below incoming-folders= "acme" ~/mail/incoming/acme-mail . enable-incoming-folders . incoming-archive-folders=~/mail/incoming/acme-mail ~/mail/archive/acme-mail and the incoming-archive-folders as above. Yet when I move form one incoming folder to another it does not attempt to move the messages form the folder in incoming dir to the folder in archive dir. Any ideas why? -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:15:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA15761 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:15:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA15168 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:11:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA15164 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:10:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwpJ4-000393C; Tue, 18 Feb 97 05:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tobbe `tjosan` Johansson Subject: Reading news with pine is slow - why? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:29:40 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! Opening newsgroups in pine3.95 takes 1-2 minutes but opening them i tin takes only a couple of seconds. Can someone explain this phenomena to me, and even better, tell me how to solve the problem?! / Thanx ~~~~~~~~~~ I was an atheist, until I found out I was God ~~~~~~~~~~ Tobbe Johansson Student @ Software Engineering @ http://www.rby.hk-r.se/~pt95tjo University of Karlskrona/Ronneby From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:34:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA15863 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA29614 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:31:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA29610 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 05:31:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwpZZ-000393C; Tue, 18 Feb 97 05:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MARCUS25 Subject: Re: Address book... Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:51:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: what version of pine are you running? in 3.95 it is done through the t take address command it puts you in an editor that you can edit then hit controll x to save it marcus On 10 Feb 1997, JEFFREY JOHN TURVEREY wrote: > > How can I send to multiple addresses on one message? I can only see how to > write to one address... is there a way to do it from the address book? > Thank you. > > -- Jeff > -jjt600z@mail.odu.edu > -Gumby8@juno.com > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:37:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA19491 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA18645 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:31:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA18640 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:31:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwsNy-000393C; Tue, 18 Feb 97 08:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:29:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Feb 1997 vikas@insight.att.com wrote: > I am thinking of using procmail along with Pine 3.95 to automagically filter > my mail into various local folders on my Unix (Solaris 2.5) machine. > > I just thought of something: > > Procmail will put various messages into various files (folders) according to > the rules I give in my .procmailrc. So far so good. > > But how the heck am I to know which folders to open and read? [...] > > Sven, Nancy? Well, I am not Sven or Nancy, but I have a technique which may serve your purpose of knowing how many messages are in each folder managed by procmail. From your message header, you seem to be using Solaris, which is a Un*x variant. If Perl is installed on your system (and you have a WWW browser), browse my home page under the Pine and mail filtering section. I have a shell script and a Perl script which it calls which display how many messages are in each incoming folder (and something about those in the INBOX itself). You will have to adjust it according to how many folders you have and what their names are, of course. Any other needed adjustments are your own, also, but they are free for the taking. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:23:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA06766 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:23:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA05887 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:12:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA05880 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 10:12:13 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 18 Feb 97 19:12:06 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA00306; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:40:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:40:14 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Ali FAOUR cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Get rid of the notification BEEP In-Reply-To: <3309052A.4E2656B0@ift.ulaval.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Ali FAOUR wrote: > I was wondering if there is anyway to get rid of the Beep > sound that notify the newcomming e-mails. > From pine's in-built help: FEATURE: quell-status-message-beeping This feature affects Pine's behavior when it displays status message (e.g., Error complaints, New mail warnings, etc). Setting this feature will not affect the display of such messages, but will cause those that emit a beep to become silent. That's M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:08:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25074 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA07202 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:00:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA07198 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:00:41 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 18 Feb 97 20:00:33 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA01021; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:25:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:25:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: MARCUS25 cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Address book... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, MARCUS25 wrote: >On 10 Feb 1997, JEFFREY JOHN TURVEREY wrote: >> How can I send to multiple addresses on one message? I can only see how to >> write to one address... is there a way to do it from the address book? >what version of pine are you running? in 3.95 it is done through the t >take address command it puts you in an editor that you can edit then hit >controll x to save it marcus Very nice idea... maybe I'll try it one day. As for now, I prefer the regular way. Type C(ompose), ^T To AddrBk, L ListMode, X [Set/Unset]. Enjoy. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:19:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26960 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:19:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA09311 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:11:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA09303 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:11:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwvtB-00038VC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 12:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eddie Ng Subject: CC to another account. Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 21:52:35 -0500 Message-ID: <32F552F3.34D9@ipoline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have a UNIX account at school and an account from my ISP, I want to be able to read all the mails in both of the accounts. I know making a "/.forward" file will redirect all the email to a specific account to the one specified in the ".forward" file but all the mail could not be seen on that account. Is there a similar file that would send a Carbon Copy (CC) to another account so that I can read the mails of the two accounts at both accounts ? Thanks Eddie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:23:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA27048 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:23:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA25100 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:16:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA25096 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:16:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwvwK-00038TC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 12:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ahuja Asheesh Subject: Re: Supress the To: list Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:05:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <32ED72D5.1536@toy.mem.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ED72D5.1536@toy.mem.ti.com> dear fellow piners, I was wondering if you know of a way to organize the 175 newsgroups that I subscribe to into directories to make it easier to access them. thanks in advance. Please send email to me @asheesh.ahuja@colorado.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:26:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26312 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA09605 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:21:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA09601 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:21:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwvyy-00038TC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 12:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Piel Jayce Subject: Change Reply-To adress Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:26:49 +0000 Message-ID: <32F5CB79.6F7D@cavalry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I would like to know how can I change my Reply-To adress ? my problem : my actual adress is jpiel@*.unice.fr (clio for * is the standard) by using iname, I have a life-time email name : jayce@cavalry.com I would like to send my mail and that my Reply-to adress is jayce@cavalry.com Now, in the Setup, I can just change the Reply-To Host... anf then, the mails try to go on jpiel@cavalry.com ... please help me... -- -------------------------------------------- ! Jayce Piel ! ! ------------------------ ! ! Jayce on IRC... Percival owner ! ! see me on #Esterel #Jayce ! !------------------------------------------! ! WWW : http://www-mips.unice.fr/~jpiel ! !------------------------------------------! ! E-mail : jayce@cavalry.com ! -------------------------------------------- And don't forget I'm a MI : Macintosh Infantry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:07:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29144 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA27780 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:58:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orions0.orion.org (orions0.orion.org [198.209.8.195]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA27776 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:58:20 -0800 Received: from orionc0.orion.org (orionc0 [198.209.8.196]) by orions0.orion.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA04884 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:58:16 -0600 (CST) Received: by orionc0.orion.org (8.8.5) id PAA04084; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:58:15 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:58:14 -0600 (CST) From: "John M. Gariepy" X-Sender: jgariepy@orionc0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "Secrets of Pine 3.9" pamphlet please (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ..:::....:::....:::. ..|||....|||....|||. ..000....000....000. .:......:...:..:.... .|......|...|..|.... .0......0...0..0.... .:..::..:..::..:.... .|..||..|..||..|.... .0..00..0..00..0.... ..::::...:: :..:.... ..||||...|| |..|.... ..0000...00 0..0.... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:32:23 -0600 (CST) From: John M. Gariepy To: UW Email Robot Subject: "Secrets of Pine 3.9" info please Please E-mail me a copy of your introduction to PINE informational article entitled "Secrets of Pine 3.9" again. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:17:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA28808 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA12227 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:10:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw2.att.com (kcgw2.att.com [192.128.133.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA12223 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:10:26 -0800 From: vikas@joshua.insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by kcig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id QAA02426; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:04:22 -0600 Received: (from vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id RAA14581; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:10:02 -0500 (EST) Original-From: "Vikas Agnihotri [dtr]" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.mail.pine Subject: More on procmail, Pine 3.95 filtering, etc Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com X-No-Archive: Yes Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:09:55 EST [This message has also been posted to Usenet] Hello all, Thanks to everyone who responded to my earlier posting about mail filtering, procmail, etc. I just had another thought. I am using Tenex mailbox format for some of my larger folders since I found that Pine 3.95 works significantly faster when using Tenex format. So some folders are Tenex, others are regular UCB format. Of course, Pine handles them seamlessly and thats one of the things I love about Pine! That being the case, does Procmail automatically append to the mail folder in the appropriate format after first checking the existing format or does it blindly append in UCB format. If so, wont it *destroy* a Tenex format folder, thus rendering it completely unusable? This is a pretty darned important consideration before jumping into procmail and I just wanted to make sure. Thanks again, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:56:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA15875 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:56:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA29241 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:53:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (vigrid.cfar.umd.edu [128.8.132.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29237 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:53:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.8.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id RAA01894; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:53:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:53:16 -0500 (EST) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: vikas@insight.att.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More on procmail, Pine 3.95 filtering, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ->That being the case, does Procmail automatically append to the mail folder in ->the appropriate format after first checking the existing format or does it ->blindly append in UCB format. -> ->If so, wont it *destroy* a Tenex format folder, thus rendering it completely ->unusable? -> ->This is a pretty darned important consideration before jumping into procmail ->and I just wanted to make sure. You cannot use procmail to append to tenex folder. You have to do something like that (this part is from ~/.pinerc file ) ----------------- #Pine Mailing List #* ^TO.*pine-info :0: pine.lock.proc * ^From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu | FolderIt pine 2 ----------------- (and this is contest of script FolderIt) ----------------- #!/bin/csh -f umask 077 cp /dev/null /homes/adam/mail/spool/$1 sed -e 1d | tmail adam+mail/spool/$1 cat /homes/adam/mail/spool/$1 >> /homes/adam/mail/incoming/$1 if ( $2 == "2" ) then cat /homes/adam/mail/spool/$1 >> /homes/adam/mail/archive/$1 endif ----------------- of course for you the important line is just the line 4 where the mail is first pocessses by sed and then by tmail (the tmail and imap needed to compile tmail you can get from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/) so you will want put in your procmail something like | sed -e 1d | tmail vikas+mail/pine as mine script does much more, as it saves it to incoming folder and also makes backup copy it if when it is said to do one. (any one want write faster version of the FolderIt script?) Aand as a side feature you have the copy of lates email for each folder stored in the spool dir. ..the reason for umask and spool dir is mostly b/c tmail would complain if the destination folder does not exist or has wrong permissions. Beside that you can display in one window the output of procmaillog to see what new mail is coming in (tail -f ~/mail/procmail.log) as the pine does not inform well about new mail when multiple folders are used. But for this you will want make those changes to tmail.c so that it does not print all the trash out to the procmail.log 123 vigrid% diff -c tmail.c.OLD tmail.c *** tmail.c Tue Feb 18 01:05:52 1997 --- tmail.c.OLD Tue Feb 18 01:03:21 1997 *************** *** 202,211 **** while ((c = getchar ()) != EOF) putc (c,f); } else { + /* ADAM #1 + don't print info about new lines mm_log ("tmail called with LF-only newlines",WARN); + */ if ((tmp[0] != 'F') || (tmp[1] != 'r') || (tmp[2] != 'o') || (tmp[3] != 'm') || (tmp[4] != ' ')) { *s++ = '\015'; /* overwrite NL with CRLF */ --- 202,208 ---- *************** *** 418,428 **** return fail (tmp,EX_CANTCREAT); } /* note success */ + /* ADAM #2 + don't print info about delivered sprintf (tmp,"delivered to %.80s",path); mm_log (tmp,NIL); + /* /* make sure nothing evil this way comes */ return delivery_unsafe (path,uid,&sbuf,tmp); } --- 415,422 ---- and in ~/.procmailrc setup ----------------- MAILDIR=$HOME/mail/incoming LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/procmail.log VERBOSE=no LOGABSTRACT=all ----------------- and then you can add somethig like that to your .xinitrc xterm +ls -title "Mail Log" -geometry 80x10-0-0 \ -e tail -f /homes/adam/mail/incoming/procmail.log & -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:56:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30930 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:56:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA00992 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:52:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA00988 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:52:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vwzJ6-00038XC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 15:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tobbe `tjosan` Johansson Subject: Pine has gone slow! Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:55:45 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I have been using pine3.95 for quite some time now but a while ago something strange happend on our system at school. All access to folders (except INBOX) takes half an eternity (that's about 10-15 seconds). When pine tries to close a folder (not INBOX), that is when I try to open another one, it hangs and leaves a bunch of zombie-processes on the computer... There where no changes in the system (what I know about) when this problem appeared. I have talked to our sys adm and he has no idea on how to solve this... We're running Solaris on Sun Sparc 5 (and a bunch of other computers). All folders are placed on our accounts... There is no decrease of speed when accessing files on the account, like viewing the folders with a text editor... The problem appeares both when reading and writing to folders. Please HELP me... / Thanx ~~~~~~~~~~ I was an atheist, until I found out I was God ~~~~~~~~~~ Tobbe Johansson Student @ Software Engineering @ http://www.rby.hk-r.se/~pt95tjo University of Karlskrona/Ronneby From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:18:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA18415 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA15265 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:12:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA15261 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 16:12:46 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA04654 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 18 Feb 97 19:12:44 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id PAA10699; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:04:03 -0500 Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:04:03 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: ROSEK Cc: Pine Info Newsgroup Subject: Re: printing in telenet In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you have a PC, you'll need to make sure the Epson drivers for that printer are installed. I assume that's your situation, so if you get the printer working for other applications, you should be able to use the attached-to-ansi feature under (S)etup [Printer]. Joe:D On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, ROSEK wrote: > I bought the printer and its hooked up to the computer with the cables. > > rosek@buffnet.net > > On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > > > How about we start with the basics: Is this a networked printer, or directly > > attached to your system? > > > > On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, ROSEK wrote: > > > > > I can't print my email messages in telenet. How do I set-up my printer > > > to print? I have an Epson LQ-800 printer. > > > > > > rosek@buffnet.net > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:00:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA02173 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:00:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA17969 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:57:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA17965 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:57:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vx1HF-00038TC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 17:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fsfjn@aurora.alaska.edu (Frankie) Subject: Re: Kill Files Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:41:27 GMT Message-ID: <5eden7$cch@news.alaska.edu> References: <5e7bn2$hrf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Pine does not currently support kill files -frankie : How do I set up a Kill File under Pine... I am running Pine on a From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:44:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA02213 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:44:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA18719 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:42:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kmitnb05.kmitnb.ac.th (kmitnb05.kmitnb.ac.th [202.44.32.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA18713 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:42:08 -0800 Received: from 192.0.2.1 (serv.kmitnb.ac.th [202.14.164.6]) by kmitnb05.kmitnb.ac.th (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA26640 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:33:17 +0700 (GMT+0700) Message-Id: <199702190233.JAA26640@kmitnb05.kmitnb.ac.th> From: "MEAN" To: Subject: Source Code for Pine Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 09:39:17 +0700 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want source code for pine because i need present teacher... Thank you very much.. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:31:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA03467 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05606 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:27:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA05593 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:27:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vx2eb-00038TC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 19:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Signature. Must it be put at top? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:25:00 +930 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 15 Feb 1997, Paul Kayak wrote: > > For some reason the signature I've been constructing (two lines only, low > bandwidth!) is being put at the top, when I make a . Why? Try finding the signature-at-bottom option in the Setup/Config screen. Put an X in the box. I can't understand why anyone would want their sig at the top. Anyone? Matt. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:22:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04035 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:22:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20909 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:17:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA20901 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 21:17:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vx4OR-00038TC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 21:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moocat@cloud9.net (Jonathan Bobin) Subject: Re: Colors, bold in Pine Date: 18 Feb 1997 09:33:41 -0500 Message-ID: <5ecek5$rim@cloud9.net> References: In article , Robin S. Socha (uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de), spake hither: : On Sun, 16 Feb 1997, Brent Lee wrote: : : >I was wondering--how do you put colors and bold text into Pine documents? : : Not at all. Period. There are ways to do that, but that kind of stuff is : unnecessary, annoying and potentially fatal for many users on : text-terminals. You can put control characters if you select vi ass your editor (some how :) ). Still, why would you want to put control characters *anyway* ? Sayanora Jonathan -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jonathan Bobin _/ jonathan@cherry.slurpee.net _/ _/ irc.icenet.org _/ jonathan@cutey.com _/ _/ http://moocat.home.ml.org _/ jonathan@icenet.org _/ _/ "To err is human, to moo, bovine." _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 22:35:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA05379 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 22:35:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA21953 for pine-info-out; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 22:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA21949 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 1997 22:32:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vx5ZF-00038TC; Tue, 18 Feb 97 22:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kenneth A. Johnson" Subject: Re: Stopping Pine from copying mail to sent-messages Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:52:50 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5ea1cj$3f8$1@news.cic.net> On 17 Feb 1997, Mat asked the marvelous question: > How do you stop Pine from copying outgoing mail to sent-messages? > While in one of the headers, type ^r. Advance to Fcc: Use ^k to delete this line. _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ ( )/ ) ( __) ( \( ) ( \( ) ( \/ ) "Most men live lives of quiet ) ( ) _) ) ( ) ( \ / desperation." H. D. Thoreau (_)\_) (____) (_)\_) (_)\_) (__) kajohnso@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 02:01:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA05061 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 02:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA10781 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 01:57:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-relay2.its.yale.edu (mail-relay2.its.yale.edu [130.132.21.73]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA10777 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 01:57:21 -0800 Received: from minerva.cis.yale.edu (ncipolla@minerva.cis.yale.edu [130.132.143.250]) by mail-relay2.its.yale.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id EAA22636 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:57:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ncipolla@localhost) by minerva.cis.yale.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id EAA22483 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:56:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: Whigfield X-Sender: ncipolla@minerva.cis.yale.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I delete it???? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Nicholas Cipolla $ "Ego hominem callidorem vidi $ MC '99 $ neminem quam Nicholam Cipollam"$ ncipolla@minerva.cis.yale.edu $ $ $ ---Sapientissimus vir $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 03:01:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA08143 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 03:01:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11595 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 02:58:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11591 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 02:58:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vx9iI-00038UC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 02:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccrjh@cse.bris.ac.uk (RJ. Hopkins) Subject: Pine in batch mode Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 09:20:22 GMT Is there any way to get Pine (3.9.5q) to send messages offline? I'm aware of "pine address < file", which nearly does what I want, but what I really want is for it to send the file to the address as a message without any interaction from me. Much like Elm's "elm -s subject address < file" --- Richard Hopkins, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK Tel +44 117 928 7859, Fax +44 117 929 1576 RFC-822: Richard.Hopkins@bristol.ac.uk X.400: G=Richard;S=Hopkins;O=Bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 03:28:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA08363 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 03:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA25802 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 03:23:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA25796 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 03:23:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxA51-00038TC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 03:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mat Subject: Stopping Pine from copying mail to sent-messages Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:35:31 GMT Message-ID: <5ea1cj$3f8$1@news.cic.net> How do you stop Pine from copying outgoing mail to sent-messages? I would like to know as my server has hardly any users disk space at the moment. -- Martin Hooper - m.hooper@uclan.ac.uk - martinjh@nether.net http://jumper.mcc.ac.uk/users/compsoc/superman/frames "Sometimes you have to have patience with things that annoy you." Xena From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:35:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA08800 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:35:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA26716 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:31:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA26712 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:31:43 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:28:14 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id MAA21625; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:30:35 GMT Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:30:35 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "RJ. Hopkins" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine in batch mode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" At present, no you cannot send messages "offline" using Pine. It is designed primarily as an _interactive_ mail client. Try using the standard "mail" or "Mail" commands (on our SGI systems the latter is the better). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, RJ. Hopkins wrote: > Is there any way to get Pine (3.9.5q) to send messages offline? I'm aware > of "pine address < file", which nearly does what I want, but what I really > want is for it to send the file to the address as a message without any > interaction from me. > > Much like Elm's "elm -s subject address < file" > > --- > > Richard Hopkins, > Computing Service, > University of Bristol, > Bristol, BS8 1UD, UK > > Tel +44 117 928 7859, Fax +44 117 929 1576 > > RFC-822: Richard.Hopkins@bristol.ac.uk > X.400: G=Richard;S=Hopkins;O=Bristol;P=UK.AC;C=GB > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:54:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07398 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA26925 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:51:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA26921 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:51:00 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 19 Feb 97 13:50:52 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA03900; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:35:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:35:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Whigfield cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Whigfield wrote: Now, here we have a): >Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin >with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I >delete it???? And then here we have b): > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >Nicholas Cipolla $ "Ego hominem callidorem vidi $ >MC '99 $ neminem quam Nicholam Cipollam"$ >ncipolla@minerva.cis.yale.edu $ $ > $ ---Sapientissimus vir $ > $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Anyone got an idea how a) and b) relate to each other? Besides, in a phrase like the tag-line, an ablativus comparationis ... Well, never mind. Here are the three answers to today's $1.000.000 question: 1) Go the Windows way: Midnight Commander or whichever file-broser there is on your system. 2) Use the Source, Luke: RTFM. 3) Use the follwing command: rm "!rest_of_filname" Voila. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:35:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24098 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA15263 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:29:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA15259 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 07:29:54 -0800 Received: from grizzly.patriotnet.com (grizzly.patriotnet.com [206.151.9.248]) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA06661; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:24:26 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:27:16 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" X-Sender: scoile@grizzly.patriotnet.com To: Mike Brudenell cc: "RJ. Hopkins" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine in batch mode In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: >At present, no you cannot send messages "offline" using Pine. It is >designed primarily as an _interactive_ mail client. Which is annoying, since its aliases are incompatible with those used by "mail" and "Mail" (and, I'd imagine, Elm), meaning we have to maintain at least two, separate alias lists if we do both interactive and batch mailings. A definite down-side to Pine. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:39:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16732 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA03384 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:33:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu (sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu [134.129.105.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA03370 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:32:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (persons@localhost) by sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA16247 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:32:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:32:48 -0600 (CST) From: ":)anne(:" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, I'm writing to ask you if there is anyway to retrieve mail because when i was writing to one of my friends sendit logged me off, and i can't find my letter. Does it get sent to a certain place or does it just get deleted? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:01:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA17212 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:01:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA20516 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:54:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA20512 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 10:54:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxH9i-00038TC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 10:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sweth@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Sweth Chandramouli) Subject: pinerc problems Date: 19 Feb 1997 12:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <5efbnm$ngd@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> i'm running unix pine 3.89 here at gwu, where they recently installed pine 3.93 and then 3.95. since upgrading to 3.9x, however, the powers-that-be have set as unchangeable all of the settings that used to be changeable from inside the .pinerc, which is why i am still using the old version. i recently noticed, however, that the personal-name for all of the mail in my sent-mail folder is the same, even though i know that many of the letters were sent after changing that setting in the .pinerc; furthermore, they were all sent not as the default to which the sysadmins here have set pine 3.9x (which i would have understood) but instead the nickname that i was using when the switch occurred i went back and checked, and sure enough, no matter what i do to that field in the .pinerc, running any of the versions of pine installed here automatically resets the personal-name variable back to that old setting. is there any other file in which pine might store something like that, and use to update the .pinerc? or can anyone think of any other potential causes of this problem? (replies e-mailed to sweth@bivwood.com or sweth@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu in addition to being posted would be appreciated.) ineffectively .pinerc-ing, sweth. because sometimes chutzpah doesn't cut it. . -- . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:15:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA16963 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:15:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA04429 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:09:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from brain.uccs.edu (brain.uccs.edu [128.198.1.126]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA04424 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:09:16 -0800 Received: from matt.uccs.edu (linc148.uccs.edu [128.198.46.148]) by brain.uccs.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA11900 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:09:10 -0700 Message-ID: <330CA142.1AF2@brain.uccs.edu> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:08:50 -0700 From: Matt Hane X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Automatic Remail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm wondering how I can send all of my email to one address automatically. Can anyone help? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:07:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05761 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:07:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05889 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:02:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05885 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:02:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id OAA08408; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:01:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:00:58 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: Matt Hane cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Automatic Remail In-Reply-To: <330CA142.1AF2@brain.uccs.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Matt: I'm not quite sure of the forwarding strategy you desire, so I'll cover all the bases with ya.... All of the following suggestions require that you have a ".forward" file in your home directory. To create one, use a text editor, like pico or vi (use pico if you're most comfortable with pine). In that file, create the following line(s): If you want all incoming mail at your brain.uccs.edu address to be forwarded (no copy at uccs.edu) write this in .forward: mail_account@newaddress.com where mail_account@newaddress.com is the fully qulaified address that you want all your incoming mail forwarded to. If you want a copy in your uccs.edu address, but another forwarded to another address write this is .forward: mail_account1@address1.com,mail_account2@address2.com where your two desired addresses are separated by commas (no space). Make sure one is your uccs.edu address. If you want to continue to receive mail, but send notification to someone that you are currently not reading your mail (on vacation), look at the manual page for "vacation" on your system. Just type "man vacation" at your prompt. Hope this helps!!! Let me know directly if you have any other questions. ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Matt Hane wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering how I can send all of my email to one address > automatically. Can anyone help? > > Thanks. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:50:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA05541 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:50:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA08671 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:46:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA08661 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:46:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA23037; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:45:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:45:41 -0700 (MST) From: Rick To: Whigfield cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Whigfield wrote: > >Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin >with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I >delete it???? > > > The command to remove files in Unix is the "rm" command. You can normally just type "rm ", however, you must remember a couple of things, first, Unix is case-sensitive, and second, if you get some really strange filenames, such as the one with the "!" char in it, you must either put the filename in double qoutes after the "rm", or use the "\" before any occurances of the "!", and in some cases, do both. Hope this helps. :-) Amiga / / slick_rk@xmission.com 2000 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2736 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:24:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA22136 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:24:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA26523 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:20:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA26515 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 14:20:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxKKH-00038UC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 14:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Calguire Subject: Another request for future Pines Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:31:14 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine needs a "stop" button. I get particularly irritated with Pine because we use a remote news server. Sometimes, when there are network or server problems, Pine commands like "Building folder list..." or "opening newsgroup..." just take too long. In addition, sometimes, the search functions of the ";" and "W" keys, and folder index sorting take much longer than expected. Sometimes, I'd just like to be able to say "Forget it!" and move on to something else. But Pine doesn't allow that, because Pine freezes everything while it's searching, sorting, or making network connections. Come on, guys! Netscape has a "stop" button. Lynx has the "control-G" command. Why not give Pine a stop button, too? By the way, I'm using Pine 3.91. If some kind-of interrupt/stop feature has been implemented in 3.95, let me know, and I'll try to get my Free-net to upgrade. -- _____________ /_____ _____/ Tony Calguire _____/_/____ / __________/ calguire@freenet.msp.mn.us ( (__/ /____ \__/ /____/ / / /_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:26:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA23435 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11060 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:20:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu (skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.241]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA11056 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:20:43 -0800 Received: by skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu; id AA18085; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:18:34 -0600 Resent-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:15:39 -0600 From: "Federal Webmasters" Message-Id: <9702191715.ZM9865@hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:15:39 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: fedwebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Subject: Webmaster Security Seminar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-Id: <"oK5uGo1TYG5.0.q57.rdu2p"@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Resent-From: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/4 X-Loop: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FedWebmasters-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu To: Federal Webmasters From: Carlynn Thompson, Chairman, World Wide Web Federal Consortium (cthompson@dtic.mil) Subject: Webmaster Security Seminar I am representing the Federal World Wide Web Consortium. You attended one or both of our Federal Webmasters Workshops, and so we assume you'll be interested in the occasional announcement related to the topics of the Web, and Federal information services. (If you'd rather not be on this list, you can remove yourself by simply sending mail to: "fedwebmaster-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu" with the single word "unsubscribe" as the Subject: of the message.) Concern has been increasing over the past few months, with the malicious break-ins at several Federal Web sites. Federal Webmasters need to work together to share information that will increase the security of our Web servers and to understand how to respond to system attacks. On March 4, 1997, the Defense Technical Information Center will be hosting a one day WEBMASTER/UNIX SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR SECURITY SEMINAR including the topics: The Computer Criminal and the Internet; Network/System Administration Security Solutions, Industry's Role in Improving Web Security; Webmaster Security Solutions, and Available Security Support Resources. This will be a technical seminar, addressing the needs of technical webmasters and systems administrators. Participation will be limited to the first 300 registrants and is free of charge. Registration and additional information is available at: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/security-seminar.html _________________________ Carlynn Thompson, Director Research, Development and Acquisition Information Support, DTIC Current Chair, World Wide Web Federal Consortium (703)-767-9175 cthompson@dtic.mil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:29:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22684 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:29:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11184 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:25:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA11180 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:25:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxLKl-00038TC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 15:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hewett@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Rick Hewett) Subject: Re: pgp-pine checking for sigs Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:35:26 GMT Message-ID: <5ef6ju$omf@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Recently gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) wrote: > On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> He again remarked that giving the user an opportunity to decide whether he >> wants to run pgp over a received message or not would be a nice function to > Having a command that allows you to invoke filters after you are already > viewing the message seems superfluous... > How would such a command differ from the existing pipe command? > (e.g. "|p" --if the script was given the name "p") Perhaps by presenting a user with a selection of possible matching filters and allowing the user to choose the one most appropriate to the task, not forgetting that the most appropriate action in some cases is "no filter"... For example, I set up a filter to decrypt a pgp message, but the particular pgp message in fact contains an un-displayable binary file. I try to view the message, and at the moment the filter goes off and decrypts it, and pine then tries to display it. Same happens if I try to "export" the file. I can only get an un-decrypted copy if I "save" it to a new folder... The list of filters would be pre-screened so that only those appropriate to the message contents would be presented to the user. Also, using a list of filters would allow tedious things like argument lists to be hidden from the user. It's much easier to say "y" than remember that a particular printer requires (say) |lpr -Pxyz -h ... -- Rick Hewett. (alias: rick@chocky.demon.co.uk) Bishops move diagonally. That's why they often turn up where the kings don't expect them to be. -- (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA25855 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:35:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA29904 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:30:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA29899 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:30:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxMNq-00038TC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 16:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Kill Files Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 17:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5e7bn2$hrf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e7bn2$hrf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> On 16 Feb 1997, Jimmy Palatsoukas wrote: > How do I set up a Kill File under Pine... I am running Pine on a > Sun Workstation (Unix OS). Any help would be greatly appreciated and > please reply by email (jimmy@ee.mcgill.ca). Sorry, but Pine does not implement killfiles in its present incarnation. (Some day..., some day...) For incoming _mail_ you can use tools like procmail or filter. (Browse my home page to get links to take you to a lot of good mail filtering information.) For newsgroups, I use a kludge called trnkill, a shell script which invokes the newsreader trn before I start Pine to update my .newsrc file with the practical effect of killfiling. It isn't perfect, but it's better than nothing. Lack of killfiles seems to be one of Pine's major design shortcomings. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:18:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA26882 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA14128 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:14:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14119 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:14:25 -0800 Received: from homer20.u.washington.edu (homer20.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.4]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA19514 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:13:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (ickmo@localhost) by homer20.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA122964 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:14:24 -0800 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:14:23 -0800 (PST) From: "I. Chung" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I would like to let you know that I will quit the fellowsip in this U.W.. Would you help me stopping my e mail service Feb. 20th,' 97? Thanks, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:49:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA27938 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:49:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA15650 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:46:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA15646 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 18:45:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxOSV-00038TC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 18:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fsfjn@aurora.alaska.edu (Frankie) Subject: Re: help Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:37:58 GMT Message-ID: <5edegm$cch@news.alaska.edu> References: i work as a system consultant at a university NeXT lab. We get this problem rather frequently for our sister system. It means your account is oversized. You need to delete some files and or messages from your account. -frankie : Dara Partovi (partovid@ohsu.EDU) wrote: : Hi, I am having trouble with using pine from my internet provider : (aracnet). I can't send anymore messages and I can't open my inbox. It : says things like: "quota exceeded", "inbox is not in valid mailbox : format". Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Dara Partovi. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:55:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21601 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA05349 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:51:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA05345 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 21:51:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxRMJ-00038UC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 21:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Ayub Subject: Re: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email 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mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29699 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA18482 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:06:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA18478 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 22:06:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxRaG-00038TC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 22:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:03:18 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Archive-name: mail/pine-faq Posting-Frequency: monthly URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html The most Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. + The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations. You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ * If you are posting a question to the Pine Discussion Forum but do not subscribe to it, request in your message that replies be sent directly to you, with a copy to the forum. (Conversely, if you are answering a question in the Pine Discussion Forum, be sure to include the inquirer's email address in your reply, since s/he may not be a subscriber and will otherwise not see your answer). _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ Why does my message index show From: instead of To:? Applies to Pine for Unix only A number of Pine 3.95 users have reported seeing their own name, rather than the name of the recipient, in folder index listings of messages they have sent. This occurs when Pine detects the specific hostname of the computer on which it is running in the From: header. To avoid this from happening, set use-only-domain-name in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu to Yes; this strips the name of the specific host from your From: address. Alternatively, specify your domain name in user-domain (be sure you enter it correctly, otherwise all your outgoing messages will have an invalid return address! Ask your local computing support people if in doubt). When setting either of these options, also read the help screen for quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file to see whether you should enable that feature too. Administrators of systems where Pine exhibits this behavior should also check the /etc/hosts file for invalid entries; as an example, it should read: 123.456.78.90 hostname.domain hostname not just 123.456.78.90 hostname -- otherwise, users' setting of use-only-domain-name to Yes will not have the intended effect. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as fetchmail (which supercedes popclient) can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. fetchmail can be obtained from: http://locke.ccil.org:80/~esr/esr-freeware.html#fetchmail Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html _________________________________________________________________ End of Pine Frequently Asked Questions - more questions & answers about Pine can be found at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:19:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA16354 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA19516 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:16:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA19512 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:16:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxShZ-00038VC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 23:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W. Scott Moore" Subject: POP3 from pine Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:38:52 GMT Message-ID: <01bc1eb5$728a2060$77265f80@none> I am running Linux and I have Pine 3.91 and am wondering how to have Pine connect to a POP3 mail server and download the messages and keep a copy of the messages on the mail server until they are deleted in pine.... can anyone out there help me? Thanks, W. Scott Moore From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:20:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA30542 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA06451 for pine-info-out; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:16:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA06447 for ; Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:16:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxShS-00038UC; Wed, 19 Feb 97 23:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moocat@cloud9.net (Jonathan Bobin) Subject: Re: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam Date: 14 Feb 1997 19:46:19 -0500 Message-ID: <5e310r$60g@cloud9.net> References: <3300867D.276E@umich.edu> In article , Robin S. Socha (uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de), spake hither: : On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 spamstoppers@umich.edu wrote: : : >Excuse the fake address, : : There's a fake address? Where? spamstoppers@umich.edu :-) : : >but I have the same problem, but I would like to know if PINE can block : >future messages from spammers? : : Of course not. It's a mailing program, not an augury. It's not a filtering : program, either. One of those can be used, to pre-process mail before you : get to read it in pine. Get Nancy McGough's filtering FAQ for the details. Of course so (kind of). Setup/Config, select domain, and if you are bob@aol.com: User-Domain: NOSPAM-aol.com That's the only way, however it will be attached to email also. : : >I have been receiving messages from the same addresses even after I have : >requested removal from their lists. : e-mail postmaster, root, abuse@the-assholes-domain. Unless its AOL, they will be glad to help. : ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ : Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 : Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 : 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de : ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ : On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" : ... so I got myself Linux. : ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ hehe :-) : -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jonathan Bobin _/ jonathan@cherry.slurpee.net _/ _/ irc.icenet.org _/ jonathan@cutey.com _/ _/ http://moocat.home.ml.org _/ jonathan@icenet.org _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:20:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA31127 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:20:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA07253 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:16:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA07249 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:16:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxTdC-00038TC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 00:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greenleaf Subject: Schedule for E-mail Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:22:02 +0530 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, Can we create schedule's for outgoing E-mail ??? Example : Suppose at 10.10 a.m. E-mail to "A" will go. Again at 11.00 a.m. E-mail to "B" will go. Remembering that we are not logged, when the E-mail goes from our server. Am i asking too much ? Any help will be highly appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 01:08:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA30597 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 01:08:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20812 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 01:01:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA20808 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 01:01:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxUKq-00038TC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 00:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BRIAN C SIMPSON Subject: HOW'D YOU DO THAT??!!??!!??!!??!!??! Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 23:44:09 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I post a message to a newsgroup, how do I get my name beside the name of my message, instead of it saying "To: comp.mail.pine", etc.?????? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:14:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA32362 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:14:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA09285 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:12:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA09281 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:11:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxWPg-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 03:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "D. W. Wieboldt" Subject: Pine / imap / ms-exchange? Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:10:43 -0600 Message-ID: <330B8873.38BB@bev.etn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anybody gotten pine (linux) to successfully open a ms-exchange folder with imap? I keep getting either rsh-timeout errors or connection refused problems. Have tried the syntax {host.domain}INBOX and the :143 hack, all to no avail. Any ideas? -- dwiebold@aus.etn.com . . . . . . . . . . . My other computer runs Linux! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:34:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA00160 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:34:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA09509 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:30:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA09505 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 03:30:23 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:27:07 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA08296; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:29:29 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:29:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: greenleaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Schedule for E-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" This is not something that a mail client designed for interactive use (such as Pine) will allow you to do. Assuming you are using a UNIX system you may be able to do what you want by setting up a timed job using either "at" (for one-off jobs) or "crontab" (for regularly occurring jobs) to use either "mail" or "Mail" (instead of Pine) to send the message. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, greenleaf wrote: > Hi there, > > Can we create schedule's for outgoing E-mail ??? > Example : > Suppose at 10.10 a.m. E-mail to "A" will go. > Again at 11.00 a.m. E-mail to "B" will go. > > Remembering that we are not logged, when the E-mail goes from our server. > > Am i asking too much ? Any help will be highly appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:11:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA15327 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA10073 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:07:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu (skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.241]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA10069 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 04:07:18 -0800 Received: by skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu; id AA03797; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:07:59 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:03:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:03:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: webmaster@york.ac.uk To: Federal Webmasters Cc: fedwebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu, postmaster@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu, root@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Webmaster Security Seminar In-Reply-To: <9702191715.ZM9865@hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Resent-Message-Id: <"oa3L6Xt_Nr6.0.-65.Hw33p"@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Resent-From: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/5 X-Loop: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FedWebmasters-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu GET ME OFF YOUR LIST. I HAVE NEVER ATTENDED *ANY* OF YOUR SEMINARS. THE E-MAIL ADDRESS YOU SAY TO USE IN ORDER TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM YOUR LIST DOESN'T WORK; MESSAGES TO IT GET REJECTED FROM YOUR MACHINE SAYING "Addressee unknown". -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Federal Webmasters wrote: > To: Federal Webmasters > From: Carlynn Thompson, Chairman, World Wide Web Federal Consortium > (cthompson@dtic.mil) > > Subject: Webmaster Security Seminar > > I am representing the Federal World Wide Web Consortium. You attended > one or both of our Federal Webmasters Workshops, and so we assume you'll > be interested in the occasional announcement related to the topics of > the Web, and Federal information services. > > (If you'd rather not be on this list, you can remove yourself by simply > sending mail to: "fedwebmaster-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu" with the single > word "unsubscribe" as the Subject: of the message.) > > > Concern has been increasing over the past few months, with the malicious > break-ins at several Federal Web sites. Federal Webmasters need to work > together to share information that will increase the security of our Web > servers and to understand how to respond to system attacks. > > On March 4, 1997, the Defense Technical Information Center will be hosting > a one day WEBMASTER/UNIX SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR SECURITY SEMINAR including > the topics: The Computer Criminal and the Internet; Network/System > Administration Security Solutions, Industry's Role in Improving Web > Security; Webmaster Security Solutions, and Available Security Support > Resources. > > This will be a technical seminar, addressing the needs of technical > webmasters and systems administrators. Participation will be limited > to the first 300 registrants and is free of charge. Registration > and additional information is available at: > > http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/security-seminar.html > > _________________________ > Carlynn Thompson, Director Research, Development and > Acquisition Information Support, DTIC > Current Chair, World Wide Web Federal Consortium > (703)-767-9175 cthompson@dtic.mil > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:41:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01276 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA11049 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:37:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA11044 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:37:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxYeI-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 05:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Micha Weiss Subject: PC-pine on lan (novell 3.12) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:01:26 +0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi ! Is there any option to use pc-pine between users in lan (novell 3.12) with out any connection to other tcpip server. if yes I need some hints how to install. thank you. Micha Weiss Computer Unit Faculty Of Social Sciences Hebrew University Mount Scopus Jerusalem 91905 Phone : 972 - 2 - 883384 Fax : 972 - 2 - 825748 Email : msmicha@pluto.mscc.huji.ac.il From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:41:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01334 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24086 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:37:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24082 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:37:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxYdq-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 05:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pankaj@uic.edu (Pankaj Saxena) Subject: How to mark against delete? Date: 16 Feb 1997 23:04:05 GMT Message-ID: <5e83p5$416k@piglet.cc.uic.edu> I use Pine in combination with Procmail to filter mail from several mailing lists into folders and read it. Some of these mailing lists are very active, and there are often 300+ messages in a mailing list folder when I read it every 2-3 days. I delete most of these messages and save maybe 5-6 messages. As I read each message or subject line, I save the ones I want to a different folder. Then I use the select ";" and apply "a" commands to select all the messages and delete them from the folder, or else I just delete the entire folder when I'm done saving the messages I want. Procmail automatically recreates the folder the next time a message from that list arrives. I was wondering if there's an easier way to do this. Specifically, if it's possible while reading messages in a folder to flag certain messages. Then, when I use the "select" command, be able to select all messages EXCEPT those which have been flagged. Any help is appreciated. +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Pankaj Saxena email: pankaj@uic.edu University of Illinois http://www.uic.edu/~pankaj Chicago, IL, USA finger u09416@uicvm.uic.edu for PGP key +=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:52:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01359 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:52:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24190 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:47:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24183 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 05:47:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxYps-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 05:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dphenry01@aol.com (DPHenry01) Subject: Printing stops after 1 page Date: 20 Feb 1997 13:41:42 GMT Message-ID: <19970220134101.IAA03470@ladder02.news.aol.com> My PC setup is quite consistent; when using prYnt, it quits after printing approx 24 lines of a message. Config. says I'm using "attached-to-ansi" and I have also used "attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed" on the advice of our Sysop (it didn't make any difference). My communications program is Telemate for Windows 1.1 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:15:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA01135 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:15:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA11470 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:12:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA11466 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:12:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxZAX-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 06:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Colin W. Glenn" Subject: Question about setting up Pine. Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:18:27 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I've been wanting to install Pine on my home machine as a means of reading some offline mail from a local site, it there a means to implement this or does Pine insist of retrieving files from a remote server? Any answers to this will be appreciated. A Christian Web Site! The Light .
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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:59:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA31515 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:59:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA12011 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:54:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA12007 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:54:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:47:29 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA23547; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:49:50 GMT Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:49:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Pankaj Saxena cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to mark against delete? In-Reply-To: <5e83p5$416k@piglet.cc.uic.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 16 Feb 1997, Pankaj Saxena wrote: > I was wondering if there's an easier way to do this. Specifically, if it's > possible while reading messages in a folder to flag certain messages. > Then, when I use the "select" command, be able to select all messages > EXCEPT those which have been flagged. > > Any help is appreciated. Have you checked through the Setup Configuration screen within Pine? In there you should find a very interesting looking option: enable-flag-cmd complete with built-in help! In particular you want to use this to apply the "Important" flag on such interesting messages. Select can then be used to select all the other messages using: ; S ! * Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:59:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02048 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA12056 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:57:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA12052 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:57:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxZvS-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 06:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bryan H." Subject: Re: pico - right margin setting by environment parameter? Date: 17 Feb 1997 06:53:02 GMT Message-ID: <5e8v8e$sqf@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> References: <5dvi14$rcl$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> > I learned that option -r# (# is a numeral) can set the right margin for > Pico. Where is this -r# thing placed, anyway? Into the .pinerc? Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:59:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02061 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA25077 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:57:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA25073 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 06:57:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxZsS-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 06:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martinjh@phish.nether.net (Mat) Subject: Re: uudecoding (usenet) Date: 20 Feb 1997 12:55:26 GMT Message-ID: <5ehhju$ruq$1@news.cic.net> References: Phil Humpherys (humphery@beagle.imall.com) wrote: : I'm finding pine a little clumsy on uudecoding news articles. Is there a : better way to do it than to have to pipe it through uudecode? Isn't there : a way that one can mark several articles for decoding and then just do it : once when you're finished with the group? Why dont you export them all to your hiome dir and then type 'uudecode *' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:53:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03154 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:53:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA26037 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:50:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu (skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.241]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA26030 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 07:49:59 -0800 Received: by skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu; id AA09387; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:49:44 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:15 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 4.1 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:15 -0600 From: Alice Duke To: fedwebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Cc: mcallij@ex1.wes.army.mil Subject: Federal Webmasters Security Seminar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-Id: <"oR1utl3Btv9.0.X61.j973p"@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Resent-From: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8 X-Loop: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FedWebmasters-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu I received a copy of your message concerning the 4 Mar 97 seminar. Will this seminar be offered again at a later date, or better yet will the presentation material be available for distribution? We are interested in the material to be presented but may not be able to send a representative to this offering. Alice Duke Computer Scientist USAE Waterways Experiment Station Vicksburg, MS TEL: 601-634-3667 Email: dukea@ex1.wes.army.mil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:11:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA04308 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:11:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26512 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:07:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu (skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.241]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA26508 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 08:07:37 -0800 Received: by skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu; id AA10358; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:06:41 -0600 Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:59:11 -0500 Message-Id: From: "Lenkin, Dona" To: "fedwebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu" Subject: FW: Federal Webmasters Security Seminar Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:59:11 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Exchange Server Internet Mail Connector Version 4.0.995.9 Encoding: 22 TEXT Resent-Message-Id: <"E5jr8V8W9S5.0.-W2.-P73p"@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Resent-From: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/9 X-Loop: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FedWebmasters-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu For some reason I keep receiving messages to this addressee. Could you pls. correct this. thank you ---------- From: Alice Duke[SMTP:DUKEA@ex1.wes.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, February 20, 1997 10:46 AM To: fedwebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Cc: mcallij@ex1.wes.army.mil Subject: Federal Webmasters Security Seminar I received a copy of your message concerning the 4 Mar 97 seminar. Will this seminar be offered again at a later date, or better yet will the presentation material be available for distribution? We are interested in the material to be presented but may not be able to send a representative to this offering. Alice Duke Computer Scientist USAE Waterways Experiment Station Vicksburg, MS TEL: 601-634-3667 Email: dukea@ex1.wes.army.mil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:17:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA06181 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:17:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA15166 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:13:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gaudi.csufresno.edu (gaudi.csufresno.edu [129.8.50.105]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA15158 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:13:07 -0800 Received: from zimmer.csufresno.edu (root@zimmer.csufresno.edu [129.8.50.100]) by gaudi.csufresno.edu (8.7/8.7) with ESMTP id JAA23956 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from E243C ([129.8.162.43]) by zimmer.csufresno.edu (8.7/8.7) with SMTP id JAA27240 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:13:01 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <13303A44.571C@lib.csufresno.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1980 16:22:28 -0800 From: Public Web Station Organization: Henry Madden Library X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject)Human Sexuality X-URL: http://www1.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00426.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Could you please send me some information on Human Sexuality. It's for a class project that I am doing. Thank You, Julie Sousa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PLEASE TYPE ABOVE THIS LINE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE TO USERS SENDING E-MAIL FROM THE LIBRARY WEB STATIONS: Since this is a public web station, please include your e-mail address or phone number if replies are requested. Thank You -- Systems Office Your Name :Julie Sousa Telephone number :(209)439-2854 E-mail address :js174 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:43:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA06972 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:43:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA28940 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:40:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from konig.elte.hu (konig.elte.hu [157.181.6.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA28927 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:40:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (racz@localhost) by konig.elte.hu (8.8.3/8.7.3/7s) with SMTP id SAA05683 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:39:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:39:41 +0100 (MET) From: Andras Racz X-Sender: racz@konig To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: request Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear pine-info: is there any means to verify that an e-mail really arrived to where I meant? Thank you in advance Andras Racz from ELTE University, Budapest, Hungary From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA06646 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA15972 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:42:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA15967 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:42:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxcS3-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 09:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Humpherys Subject: uudecoding (usenet) Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:53:53 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm finding pine a little clumsy on uudecoding news articles. Is there a better way to do it than to have to pipe it through uudecode? Isn't there a way that one can mark several articles for decoding and then just do it once when you're finished with the group? -pH -------------- Phil Humpherys Email: ph@imall.com humphery@beagle.imall.com Systems Administrator/Engineer http://ph.imall.com/ Information Technology Services Office: +1.801.377.0899 iMALL, Inc. Pager: +1.801.276.3494 "[John Bonham] could do more on one bass drum than anybody could do on two." - Robert Plant, 1990. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:47:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07187 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:47:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA28997 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:42:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA28993 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:42:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxcRx-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 09:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fred Ringel Subject: Re: HELP PINE and PGP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:15:37 GMT Diego Perez wrote: > > HI, > > Does anybody know an interface between PINE and PGP? > > Thanks. > Sure mkpgp. There's a link to it on my PGP Users Page. http://pgp.rivertown.net Fred /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Fred B. Ringel -- Rivertown.Net Internet Access Systems Administrator -- http://www.rivertown.net and General Fixer Upper -- Voice/Fax/Support: +1.914.478.2885 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:49:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25026 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:49:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA16096 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA16092 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:11 -0800 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA03194; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:46:04 -0800 (PST) From: Stefan Kramer To: "John M. Gariepy" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Secrets of Pine 3.9" pamphlet please (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington Computing and Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, "Secrets of Pine 3.9" can be found at these URLs: http://www.washington.edu/pine/secrets.html and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/secrets.txt ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, John M. Gariepy wrote: # Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:58:14 -0600 (CST) # From: "John M. Gariepy" # To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu # Subject: "Secrets of Pine 3.9" pamphlet please (fwd) # # # # ..:::....:::....:::. ..|||....|||....|||. ..000....000....000. # .:......:...:..:.... .|......|...|..|.... .0......0...0..0.... # .:..::..:..::..:.... .|..||..|..||..|.... .0..00..0..00..0.... # ..::::...:: :..:.... ..||||...|| |..|.... ..0000...00 0..0.... # # ---------- Forwarded message ---------- # Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:32:23 -0600 (CST) # From: John M. Gariepy # To: UW Email Robot # Subject: "Secrets of Pine 3.9" info please # # # Please E-mail me a copy of your introduction to PINE informational # article entitled "Secrets of Pine 3.9" again. # # Thank you, # John Gariepy # # ..:::....:::....:::. ..|||....|||....|||. ..000....000....000. # .:......:...:..:.... .|......|...|..|.... .0......0...0..0.... # .:..::..:..::..:.... .|..||..|..||..|.... .0..00..0..00..0.... # ..::::...:: :..:.... ..||||...|| |..|.... ..0000...00 0..0.... # # # From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:58:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07094 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA29301 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:52:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA29297 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 09:52:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxcay-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 09:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruud Senden Subject: Pine for OS/2 questions Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:58:40 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a few questions regarding the OS/2 version of Pine, and Pine in general. Some of these questions are suggestions for a new version of Pine, if it isn't possible yet with the current 3.95 version: (1) Which (free, if possible) program can I use to store messages (either from a POP3 server, or from a UNIX mailbox file) in different PC Pine-folders, based on rules. It has to be a DOS or (preferred) an OS/2 program, and I want to be able to write to the folders, so they have to be written in PC-Pine mailbox format, not UNIX mailbox format. (2) Is it possible to use the newsrc file for read messages, instead of (or in addition to) deleted messages, so when I've read a message, it is either not shown, or marked as read, the next time I read that newsgroup. It would also be nice if I could choose whether to show all messages (with an indication whether they have been read or not), or only new messages. (3) It would be nice to have the option to show the total number of messages and the number of new messages in the folder overview window, for each mailbox and newsgroup. Groeten, Ruud. :""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""|""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""": : Ruud Senden | Meisjes? dat is niets voor mij. : : Dept. of Computer Science | Als zij lief doen, moet ik lachen, : : Utrecht University | Als ik lief doe, lachen zij - : : E-mail: rsenden@cs.ruu.nl | : : Fidonet: 2:280/804.2054 | Uit: 'Pieter Bas', Godfried Bomans : """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:12:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA07779 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:12:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA16670 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:07:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA16666 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:07:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxctX-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 10:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nisha Chopada Subject: posting single message to number of people, but hiding details. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:36:41 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, does anybody know how to send a single email to many people, BUT the recipient do not see anybody's name who is reciving that email. in other words, I want to send email to x, y,z. but x should not see y and z's names in the email header. I would really appreciate your help. thanks nisha From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:22:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA08180 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA29931 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:17:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA29927 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:17:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxd2Y-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 10:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ben Norwood Subject: Reply string Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:20:45 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to automatically change the reply/followup string On , wrote: to something else (eg. time, message ID)? The present format (date & sender only) can appear a little vague, especially if writing several followups to the same person on the same day. -- Ben Norwood bdn5@aber.ac.uk http://www.aber.ac.uk/~bdn5 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:39:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23657 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA17273 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:30:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA17269 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:30:43 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA15050 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:30:42 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00586 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:30:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:30:40 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: posting single message to number of people, but hiding details. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Nisha Chopada wrote: > does anybody know how to send a single email to many people, BUT the > recipient do not see anybody's name who is reciving that email. > in other words, I want to send email to x, y,z. but x should not see y > and z's names in the email header. With the cursor in the header of the outgoing message, hit ^R for Rich Header Options. Leave the To: field blank and put all the addresses in the Bcc: field, separating them with a comma. Each recipient will see that the message was sent from you to 'Undisclosed Recipients'. Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:47:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA09532 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19303 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:43:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA19297 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:43:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxeK6-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 11:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swalton@chass.utoronto.ca (Steven Walton) Subject: Knitting a Paragraph? Date: 12 Feb 1997 11:28:56 -0500 Message-ID: <5dsr48$lto@chass.utoronto.ca> Is there a way in PINE to reformat paragraphs that you haev edited and messed up the line wraps on? I used to use ELM and I think it had this feature, but if I am not mistaken, it used the stripped down emacs editor, so it was more likely a feature of the latter than the former. With all of PINE's features, it seems like it oughtta do it, but it escapes me how to get it done. Thanks SW From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:05:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA10793 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:05:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA19776 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:00:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA19772 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 11:59:56 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 20 Feb 97 20:59:49 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA02190; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:57:34 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:57:34 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Nisha Chopada cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: posting single message to number of people, but hiding details. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Nisha Chopada wrote: Yo! >does anybody know how to send a single email to many people, BUT the >recipient do not see anybody's name who is reciving that email. Sure... Check the "spam-faq", which is available from a server near you. >in other words, I want to send email to x, y,z. but x should not see y >and z's names in the email header. There is an option bcc: which will let you do exactly that. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:57:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA13593 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA05706 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:53:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA05702 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:53:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxgNt-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 13:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 12:17:54 -0800 Subject: Re: request In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Feb 1997, Andras Racz wrote: > Date: 20 Feb 1997 09:43:45 -0800 > From: Andras Racz > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: request Dear Andras, I've often wondered about this as many smaller mail applications do have a system of _Return Receipts_, but there is a rather important consequence, and that is it generates more tramsmission traffic and of course memory needs to be used to record and track each message where a return receipt was requested. However on systems for larger mail programs evidently this is perhaps too much clutter as the thinking is that recipients of messages will always indicate [respond to an RSVP] without being asked. We know from experience to get ANY feedback as to receipt of your message depends completely on the individual you contacted. As a sidenote to RSVP courtesy it was born in the day when hostesses wanted to make sure how many guests were coming. Return receipts were used postally to make certain that your business letter got to its destination. All this when telegraph and radio were in infancy and not too reliable. <> So if you add a century to that and evaluate communication reliability today be reassured by several orders of magnitude that your message got through and silence from your recipient may be more probable. - - - - I'm writing this from sunny California, USA. Your message did get through, and if one part of a web [Web] feels tremors, then the whole web is aware. Another clue is when your mail is not rejected by a mailing robot which sends messages back to you nearly all the time for improper addresses. If you don't get those then you're okay. - - - - Hope your Hungarian spring comes soon . . . hinotru > Dear pine-info: is there any means to verify that an e-mail really > arrived to where I meant? > Thank you in advance > Andras Racz from ELTE University, > Budapest, Hungary > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:01:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA13748 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA22777 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:58:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA22767 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:58:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxgT6-00038WC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 13:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: in6qc@qcunix1.acc.qc.edu (PAN JACK) Subject: Problem Setting up Pine for Pop server. Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:23:18 GMT Message-ID: <5eiism$dqm@news.cuny.edu> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:14:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA07494 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:14:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA06048 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:08:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA06043 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:08:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxgY9-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 14:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: html attachments Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 11:13:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Cyber-Babushka wrote: > Is there any way to convince Pine (in Linux) to display text/HTML > attachments, even with all the embedded html? It's pretty annoying that > the only thing I can do is save them and read them later with some other > editor. Configure an appropriate viewer for text/html in your .mailcap file, e.g. text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal Using the above, Pine will invoke Lynx to view the HTML. -- David L. Miller | When ideas fail, words come in Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | very handy. -- Goethe Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:16:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA15440 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:16:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA24561 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:08:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA24557 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:08:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxhb1-00038UC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 15:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Thad Smith" Subject: printing from pine on NT 4.0 & Win95 Message-ID: <01bc1f7f$31e7e540$08877986@cvm_nt5> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:42:32 GMT I am having trouble configuring pine to print to local printers on NT 4.0 and Win95 machines. The attached to ansi option that works so well for win 3.1 fails for these two cases. If I am glancing over something please let me know. If there is some nifty trick to it that would be great information as well. Thad Smith Systems Analyst / WSU College of VetMed thadcs@vetmed.wsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:08:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA17501 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10434 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:03:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA10429 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:03:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxjLj-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccdoug@uxmail.ust.hk (Doug C.T. Wong) Subject: PC-Pine print problem when use command "y" Date: 17 Feb 1997 06:25:26 GMT Message-ID: <5e8tkm$73a@ustsu10.ust.hk> Dear All, We have compiled the 32 bit PC-Pine using MS Visual C++ 4.2. The following are customizations that we make in the source: - remove the debugging option - redefine HORIZONTAL_MARGIN - redefine PINE_VERSION - redefine DF_LOCAL_FULLNAME and ADDRESS After the compilation, we find that all the major functions are operating fine except the "y"(prYnt) command. When using the "y" command to print, PC-Pine always gives the error message "Error starting print job: Can't start document". Printing is OK, however, when print from the FILE menu. We have downloaded the precompiled version from the Web site of U of Washington and find it does not have such print problem. Do any of you know where the problem is and the trick to solve it? Is there a bug in the source code that causes the problem? Thanks in advance. Regards, Doug -- -------------------------------------------------------------- | Doug Wong Email : ccdoug@ust.hk | | Phone : (856) 2358 6256 | | Fax : (856) 2358 0967 | | Assistant Computing Information Officer | | Centre of Computing Services & Telecommunications | | The Hong Kong University of Science & Technology | -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:43:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA18774 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:43:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA28371 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:38:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA28367 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:38:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxjrv-00038WC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jack Patton Subject: ANSI Colors using UNIX Pine? Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:48:15 GMT Message-ID: <5ei9pv$na9@netaxs.com> Hi, I noticed that ANSI color support is included in the pc code but there isn't a stand alone -DANSI_COLOR or something that I could use to enable -c in pine/pico unider unix. Is there and easy way to do this? I tried forcing the issue but it seems that the dos/ansi color code is too intermixed for a quick hack. I was just wondering since both lynx and tin have both been ansi-colorfied. Thanks, -- Jack Patton Integrated Computer Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ = Integrated Computer Services - http://www.intserv.com - 609-484-0889 = = SLIP/PPP - $19.95/mo * Unix shell - $15/mo * Telnet-in shell - $10/mo = ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:50:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA31687 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:50:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA11299 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:43:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA11295 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:43:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxjxw-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Sorting NewsGroups w/Pine Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 10:06:40 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have a question about the way Unix Pine 3.95 sorts the subjects in a NewsGroup. I use the sort by "subject" method, which gives me a alphabetical listing of the NewsGroup, but it is not sorted my date. If I use "ordered-subject" the NewsGroup is sorted by date, but not alphabetically. Is there any way that future releases of Pine that it might combine the sorting methods? So that the subjects are sorted alphabetically and then by date? Is this something in the configuration that I have overlooked? All comments welcomed, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:53:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA19110 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA28543 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:48:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA28539 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:48:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxk5R-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikeh@marcel.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Hollyman) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 and multiple folders and filtering, etc Date: 18 Feb 1997 04:34:26 GMT Message-ID: <5ebbgi$k5m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: vikas@insight.att.com writes: >I am thinking of using procmail along with Pine 3.95 to automagically filter >my mail into various local folders on my Unix (Solaris 2.5) machine. (snip) >But how the heck am I to know which folders to open and read? I dont want to >go and look in each and every folder and look for the 'N' flag to see if I >have got any new messages. My purpose in doing mail filtering is to make life >more efficient/stream-lined. This 'hunting down new messages in all the damn >folders' is the exact opposite it this. (snip) I have the solution to your problems. You have X, so there is no better app for you than XBuffy. It will watch as many folders as you want. I currently use procmail to filter on 7 folders, and eash is listed in a small window, a little bigger that the xbiff with each folders name. When new mail arrives, it changes inverse color, and or flashes the subject and who it's from. It's the best app I have running on my machine! You can get the source from: ftp://uiarchive.cso.uiuc.edu/pub/X11/contrib/utilities/xbuffy3.2.1.tar.gz Enjoy! -- Mike Hollyman www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/mikeh Computing & Communications Services Office (217) 244-8724 --finger mikeh@uiuc.edu for PGP Public Key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:01:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA18315 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:01:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA29559 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:56:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA29555 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 18:56:33 -0800 Received: from localhost by mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA17344; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:55:56 -0500 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 21:55:56 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Knitting a Paragraph? In-Reply-To: <5dsr48$lto@chass.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Feb 1997, Steven Walton wrote: > Is there a way in PINE to reformat paragraphs that you haev edited and > messed up the line wraps on? I used to use ELM and I think it had > this feature, but if I am not mistaken, it used the stripped down > emacs editor, so it was more likely a feature of the latter than the > former. With all of PINE's features, it seems like it oughtta do it, > but it escapes me how to get it done. Thanks Use the "Justify" command: Ctrl-J ------------------------------------------------------------------- Chip Old (Francis E. Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: 410-887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: 410-887-2091 320 York Road ICBM: 39.39910 North Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. 76.60300 West From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:33:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA22409 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA15854 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:24:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA15850 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:24:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxpGN-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sten.Westerback@ntc.nokia.com (Sten Westerback) Subject: Unread mails even if i have none? Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 14:49:27 GMT Message-ID: <5da6o2$oij@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> Hi! I'm just a every now and then pine user having one problem. For some reason the logon check claims that i have unread mails even if i don't have any. How can i make it check the mailbox? - Sten From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:37:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA22466 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:37:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA03322 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:34:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA03318 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:34:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxpSH-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moocat@cloud9.net (Jonathan Bobin) Subject: Re: Address book... Date: 18 Feb 1997 09:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: <5eceno$rp4@cloud9.net> References: In article , MARCUS25 (Marcus25@cris.com), spake hither: Change your Name (MARCUS25). Makes you look like an AOL-er :-) : On 10 Feb 1997, JEFFREY JOHN TURVEREY wrote: : : > : > How can I send to multiple addresses on one message? I can only see how to : > write to one address... is there a way to do it from the address book? : > Thank you. Put the addresses in comas. Ie: To : baa@baa.org, blah@blah.net, bastard@whitehouse.gov etc... Sayanora -- _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ Jonathan Bobin _/ jonathan@cherry.slurpee.net _/ _/ irc.icenet.org _/ jonathan@cutey.com _/ _/ http://moocat.home.ml.org _/ jonathan@icenet.org _/ _/ "To err is human, to moo, bovine." _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:42:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA22568 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:42:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA16062 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:39:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA16058 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:39:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxpXN-00038VC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ian Lumb {FPAS/Comp. Syst. Coord.}" Subject: Automatic Removal of Bcc Field and Entries on Forwarding Messages Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 12:35:32 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: I quite often keep copies, via Pine's Fcc field, of messages that I send out with entries in the Bcc field. When I later view these messages, I am able to view the Bcc recipients, and I consider this a feature :-) However when I forward such messages, I would like have Pine *automatically remove* the Bcc field and associated entries, *prior* to forwarding. Does this functionality exist in Pine 3.95? If so, please share your secrets. If not, perhaps this is a small suggestion for a future release of this wonderful mail-user agent :-) TIA, Ian. -- Ian Lumb, Computer Systems Coordinator Office of the Dean, Faculty of Pure and Applied Science, York University 4700 Keele Street, North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-2100 x 30757; Fax: (416) 736-5950 [Personal URL] http://java.science.yorku.ca/~ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:42:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA22153 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:42:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA03416 for pine-info-out; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:39:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA03412 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 23:39:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxpXW-00038WC; Thu, 20 Feb 97 23:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Administrador del Sistema Subject: TERM=linux to open PINE?? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:50:49 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to automatically set the TERM variable in order to work with Pine? (I mean from as root). I have a VT220 terminal attached to my server and since I upgraded from Slackware 3.0 to 3.1, when you log in from this terminal the TERM var is set to vt220 and you need to set it to TERM=linux in order to open PINE. How do I fix it? (I only know about /etc/profile to set env variables) Please e-mail me the answer, Thanks/Gracias, Gil /-----------------------------------------------------\ | root (Administrador del Sistema) | | Casa de l'Estudiant, UPC | | e-mail: root@casal.upc.es | \-----------------------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:23:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA22953 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:23:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA03957 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:19:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA03952 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:19:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxqBG-00038XC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 00:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: posting single message to number of people, but hiding details. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:07:46 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Nisha Chopada wrote: > Hi, > does anybody know how to send a single email to many people, BUT the > recipient do not see anybody's name who is reciving that email. > > in other words, I want to send email to x, y,z. but x should not see y > and z's names in the email header. > I would really appreciate your help. Use the Lcc header (hit ctrl-R for Rich Header to see it). You can make up a list of recipients in the Addressbook and enter the name for it in the Lcc line. The list name will go to the to field and the message will go the recipients, but they wont see the other names on the list. If you don't want to make up a list alias in the addressbook (say, for example, it is a one-time mailing) then send a copy to yourself in the To line and put everyone else's name in the Bcc: line (only visible in Rich Header). Ian Ollmann From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:23:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA22415 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA16606 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:19:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA16602 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:19:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxqAT-00038WC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 00:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: HOW'D YOU DO THAT??!!??!!??!!??!!??! Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:04:44 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, BRIAN C SIMPSON wrote: > When I post a message to a newsgroup, how do I get my name beside the name > of my message, instead of it saying "To: comp.mail.pine", etc.?????? Well, if it makes you feel any better, your name is beside your message on *my* copy, and I suspect everyone else's. It is just your copy that is that way. This way you can tell easily which ones you wrote so you can avoid wasting time reading them again, or single them out and read them over and over and over again, if you prefer. :-) Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:31:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA22605 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:30:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04018 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:24:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA04014 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:24:38 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 21 Feb 97 09:24:30 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03283; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:49:40 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 22:49:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Steven Walton cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Knitting a Paragraph? In-Reply-To: <5dsr48$lto@chass.utoronto.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Feb 1997, Steven Walton wrote: >Is there a way in PINE to reformat paragraphs that you haev edited and >messed up the line wraps on? I used to use ELM and I think it had this >feature, but if I am not mistaken, it used the stripped down emacs >editor, so it was more likely a feature of the latter than the former. >With all of PINE's features, it seems like it oughtta do it, but it >escapes me how to get it done. Thanks Nope... but you can invoke another editor (see Setup, Config). *really* *smart people use joe, really* weird people use vim (Huhu, Sven!) or another *monster. If you know elm, you'll probably like jmacs (joe in emcas mode... *but not Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping). JOE is available over the Internet by anonymous FTP from ftp.std.com, file: src/editors/joe*.tar.Z. Enjoy. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:32:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA23199 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17412 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:26:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA17408 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 01:25:57 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm2-adr25.interl.net [205.244.161.25]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA31312; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:20:30 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA00524; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:25:57 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:25:55 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander To: Administrador del Sistema cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: TERM=linux to open PINE?? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Administrador del Sistema wrote: > Is there a way to automatically set the TERM variable in order to work > with Pine? (I mean from as root). > > I have a VT220 terminal attached to my server and since I upgraded from > Slackware 3.0 to 3.1, when you log in from this terminal the TERM var is > set to vt220 and you need to set it to TERM=linux in order to open PINE. > How do I fix it? (I only know about /etc/profile to set env variables) > > Please e-mail me the answer, I should've gone to sleep 4 hours ago, so I might be wrong :) but assuming that you're running bash for the shell, try typing "export TERM=linux" before you run Pine. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMw1qGiGB07hAGnFhAQGtpwQAjSpagFyIG7SUOoErSxKe68aRqmJvenlu KG0mqGPS167amFf2xdf8TfUyxaDwMR81qoqlOQvoVONZ1ulbuSLAEZdSkGpHDBhV KcaIY/i4L0Ebh1GY/FprlDU0m87G43jPgt72xYiKgu10hrSloYp/Ez/NqdKhvE9y ojTgYoKmqtU= =EX+t -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net | Home : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Work : http://www.interl.net/ | PGP Key : e-mail with subj. get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:11:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA23953 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA17903 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:05:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from enrico.ied.com (miranda.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.198.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA17899 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:05:48 -0800 Received: from ann.ied.com (ann.ied.com [192.168.200.20]) by enrico.ied.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA00504 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 05:05:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 05:05:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jan Vicherek To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Fcc as process, not file Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Instead of saving it into sent-mail folder directly, I would like to do some additional processing on *every* msg that's being sent before saving it to the sent-mail folder. How do I do that ? I can think of a few ways : o define a sending filter, but then I couldn't combine it with other sending filters, like PGP. o send a copy to a user that will do the processing via procmail, but this is not elegant at all -- I would rather call procmail directly, as in third option : o in Fcc field, instead of specifying "sent-mail", specify something like : "|my_process" which would execute this process instead ! It appears to me that the third option is the most elegant one, but requires some coding. Could someone : o advise me on a better way to do it, OR o help me get it coded ? Thanx, Jan -- Gospel of Jesus is the saving power of God for all who believe -- Jan Vicherek ## To some, nothing is impossible. ## www.ied.com/~honza >>> Free Software Union President ... www.fslu.org <<< Interactive Electronic Design Inc. -#- PGP: finger honza@ied.com - - - - I wonder whether Jesus had available Unix drivers - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:11:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA23511 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA17897 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:05:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA17893 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 02:05:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:02:41 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA23241; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:05:03 GMT Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:05:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Michael cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sorting NewsGroups w/Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Michael wrote: > I have a question about the way Unix Pine 3.95 sorts the subjects in a > NewsGroup. > > I use the sort by "subject" method, which gives me a alphabetical listing > of the NewsGroup, but it is not sorted my date. Correct. > If I use "ordered-subject" the NewsGroup is sorted by date, but not > alphabetically. Not quite.... sorting by "Date" sorts by date. "OrderedSubject" groups messages sharing the same Subject text (ignoring leading "Re:"'s) together, and then sorts this sublist by Date. The main aim of OrderedSubject is to provide pseudo-threading for folders (mail or news). I admit that I've always been semi-puzzled why the Index screen doesn't then end up with the subjects arranged alphabetically. However I _suspect_ Pine is attempting to maintain the Date ordering of the start of each thread of conversation (in case, I suppose, some thread has its Subject changed as the discussion wanders ... this would hopefully end up further down the Index so you'd always encounter it _after_ reading the original material) If I'm right (and it _is_ only supposition) the algorithm is not simply the obvious: 1. Sort articles using primary key of Subject and secondary key of Date. but is instead the more complex (and theoretically useful): 1. Group articles into "threads" by common Subject (ie, get related articles together) 2. Sort each "thread" by Date (ie, order the articles within each "thread" into the order they were written). 3. Sort the different "threads" by Date (ie, order the separate conversational "threads" into chronological order by their first article). Perhaps you (or someone with a bit of spare time) would care to peer at the source code and see if this is indeed what is happening (or else suggest what the true algorithm is)? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 06:39:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA26601 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 06:39:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA08483 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 06:34:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from TTACS1.TTU.EDU (ttacs1.ttu.edu [129.118.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA08479 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 06:33:57 -0800 Received: from pegasus.acs.ttu.edu by ttacs.ttu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13298) id <01IFO6M9MOBC8X37QL@ttacs.ttu.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:34:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by pegasus.acs.ttu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15118; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:34:24 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:34:23 -0600 (CST) From: "B. N. Whittington" Subject: Problem with attachments In-reply-to: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I tried to send a message to a friend with an attachment, and this is what he got: > > --Boundary (ID vIWfs3K/n+tHa31a+O0Zhw) > > Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > > > [Text of my message] > > > > --Boundary (ID vIWfs3K/n+tHa31a+O0Zhw) > > Content-id: > > Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="DISKE:listserv.txt;1"; > > charset=US-ASCII > > Content-description: > > Content-transfer-encoding: BASE64 > > > > R3JvdXBzOiBsYXcubGlzdHNlcnZbLipdDQoNCmxhdy5saXN0c2Vydi5hYWFz > > aHJhbiANCiAgICAgSHVtYW4gUmlnaHRzIEFjdGlvbiBOZXR3b3JrIG9mIHRo > > [etc.] > > > > --Boundary (ID vIWfs3K/n+tHa31a+O0Zhw)-- When I tested it by sending it to myself (on a second account), the attachment came out fine. When I resent it to him, he received the same (encoded?) message. Does anyone know what I sent to him, and why it came out the way it did? I am using Pine 3.91 on a VAX. Thank you. ============================================================================== xybnw@ttacs.ttu.edu http://pegasus.acs.ttu.edu:80/~xybnw xybnw@pegasus.acs.ttu.edu It is remarkable that a creative process devoted to selfishness could produce organisms which, having finally discerned this creator, reflect on this central value and reject it. --Robert Wright _The Moral Animal_ ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:20:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA11651 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:20:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA21589 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:15:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA21582 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:14:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxwbm-00038VC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 07:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: posting single message to number of people, but hiding details. Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:27:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 20 Feb 1997, Lea wrote: > On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Nisha Chopada wrote: > > > does anybody know how to send a single email to many people, BUT the > > recipient do not see anybody's name who is reciving that email. > > in other words, I want to send email to x, y,z. but x should not see y > > and z's names in the email header. > > With the cursor in the header of the outgoing message, > hit ^R for Rich Header Options. Leave the To: field > blank and put all the addresses in the Bcc: field, > separating them with a comma. Each recipient will see > that the message was sent from you to 'Undisclosed > Recipients'. I believe this needs a slight correction. If you use Bcc:, then DO NOT leave To: blank. If nothing else, put your own address in there, and then discard the copy you receive. Depending on the mail transfar agent, some people who have used Bcc: while leaving To: blank have had the unfortunate experience that the transfer agent creates an Apparently-to: header for every address listed in Bcc:! This does not happen every time, necessarily, but unless you are certain that it does not happen on your system, be sure to put SOMETHING in To: when using Bcc:. The latest versions of Pine have an Lcc: option which gets around this problem. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:55:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27452 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA09632 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:50:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from antares.utu.fi (antares.utu.fi [130.232.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA09623 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:49:59 -0800 Received: from sol.utu.fi ([130.232.1.30]) by utu.fi with SMTP id <30962-13640>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:49:05 +0200 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:49:43 +0200 (EET) From: SE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: About filtering...in Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd like to ask about filtering. I receive email with different To-lines and so I want to filter my mail to different folders by recipient. I've seen the info: it tells me some words like BEGINNING and RECIPIENTS, which I can use, but how? Could someone tell me an example? I've got certain files (folders) to which I want my mail to go so that I can read them there. Love, love changes everything, hands and faces, earth and sky Yes, love, fil. yo S. Edelman, Turku, Finland love changes everything, how you live and how you die... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:10:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA25895 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22442 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:05:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from TTACS1.TTU.EDU (ttacs1.ttu.edu [129.118.1.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA22438 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:05:29 -0800 Received: from pegasus.acs.ttu.edu by ttacs.ttu.edu (PMDF V5.0-7 #13298) id <01IFO9SRSIIK8X37QL@ttacs.ttu.edu>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:05:57 -0600 (CST) Received: by pegasus.acs.ttu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13004; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:05:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:05:55 -0600 (CST) From: "B. N. Whittington" Subject: Re: Problem with attachments In-reply-to: To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > What mail program is your friend using, and on what platform? My friend is also using Pine 3.91, running on the same VAX as the one my account is on. > If it isn't Pine is it a "MIME-aware" mail program? If it isn't then it > can't understand MIME attachments. In this case either you will have to > send your file differently, or they will need to use some separate > unpacking software to decode the MIME attachment. > -- > Mike Brudenell I am confused as to why Pine would convert the attachment in MIME, and then not unconvert it for the recipient, considering that we are both using Pine 3.91 on the same VAX. Thank you for your help, Mike Brudenell. ============================================================================== xybnw@ttacs.ttu.edu http://pegasus.acs.ttu.edu:80/~xybnw xybnw@pegasus.acs.ttu.edu It is remarkable that a creative process devoted to selfishness could produce organisms which, having finally discerned this creator, reflect on this central value and reject it. --Robert Wright _The Moral Animal_ ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:18:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26686 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:18:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA10183 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:13:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA10179 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:13:08 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 21 Feb 97 17:13:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA02622; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:23:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:23:32 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jan Vicherek cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Fcc as process, not file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Jan Vicherek wrote: > Instead of saving it into sent-mail folder directly, I would like to >do some additional processing on *every* msg that's being sent before >saving it to the sent-mail folder. > > How do I do that ? > > I can think of a few ways : > o define a sending filter, but then I couldn't combine it with >other sending filters, like PGP. Wrong. At least with procmail, you can do that... and a few million things more... >;-> [...] > o in Fcc field, instead of specifying "sent-mail", specify >something like : "|my_process" which would execute this process instead ! > It appears to me that the third option is the most elegant one, but >requires some coding. Could someone : > o advise me on a better way to do it, OR > o help me get it coded ? Sure, check Nancy McGough's filtering faq. Also, check the entire procmail package *thoroughly*. Everything you need is in there. If in doubt, consult the procmail mailing list. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:39:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA27879 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:39:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA23150 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:34:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cagw1.att.com (cagw1.att.com [192.128.52.89]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA23146 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:34:22 -0800 From: vikas@joshua.insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by caig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id LAA06375; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:28:52 -0500 Received: (from vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15925; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:33:59 -0500 (EST) Original-From: "Vikas Agnihotri [dtr]" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.mail.pine Subject: Unix signals and Pine 3.95 Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com X-No-Archive: Yes Date: 21 Feb 1997 11:33:54 EST [This message has also been posted to Usenet] Just curious about something. How does Pine 3.95 handle external Unix signals like HUP, TERM, QUIT, etc. I dont want to delve through the code to get the answer if anyone out there knows it already. Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:40:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA28742 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA23241 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:36:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw2.att.com (kcgw2.att.com [192.128.133.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA23237 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 08:36:33 -0800 From: vikas@joshua.insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by kcig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id KAA20277; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:30:24 -0600 Received: (from vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA15960; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:36:07 -0500 (EST) Original-From: "Vikas Agnihotri [dtr]" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.mail.pine Subject: Dump of pinerc Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com X-No-Archive: Yes Date: 21 Feb 1997 11:35:51 EST [This message has also been posted to Usenet] Another query: Is there a documented/undocumented way to get a running Pine session to create a dump of the pinerc file it is operating under. Would be useful if say, I deleted my $HOME/.pinerc and still had a Pine session running, luckily. All I have to do is get Pine to re-create the .pinerc it is running under. Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:20:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25272 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA11724 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:15:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from physics.ubc.ca (physics.ubc.ca [137.82.43.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA11720 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:15:42 -0800 Received: from roger.physics.ubc.ca by physics.ubc.ca (4.1/UBC_Phys1.5.6) id AA08720; Fri, 21 Feb 97 09:15:40 PST Received: from localhost by roger.physics.ubc.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14840; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:15:25 -0800 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:15:24 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Howard To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems with AIX 4.2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am interested to hear if other pine users have problems running it on IBM 6000 machines with the latest version of the operating system, AIX 4.2. The unix mail command appears to work correctly, but pine hangs when an attempt is made to send mail (it handles incoming messages OK). The problem appears to be related to the new version of sendmail. I would appreciate responses by private email, as I don't subscribe to this list. Roger Howard. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:51:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA24286 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:51:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA12524 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:45:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA12518 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:45:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vxyzq-00038VC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 09:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: I S Speirs Subject: filters and killfiles Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:28:30 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use PINE 3.95 for both mail and news. Like so many others, I would like to filter out spam in the newsgroups. I don't have any problem with my mail, only news. I know PINE does not have killfiles but I'm interested in knowing some of the details of how I could filter newgroups. I tried reading the man page on procmail, which others have suggested is useful for filtering, but it mostly described using it to filter mail. I really appreciate any help on this. TIA. Ian Scott Speirs Man imagines that it is death he fears; ispeirs@polaris.umuc.edu but what he fears is the unforeseen. cirrusly@juno.com -Saint-Exupery http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/4535/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:43:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA02762 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA17056 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:37:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw2.att.com (kcgw2.att.com [192.128.133.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA17052 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:37:19 -0800 From: vikas@joshua.insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by kcig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id OAA18376; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:31:08 -0600 Received: (from vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA19056; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:36:53 -0500 (EST) Original-From: "Vikas Agnihotri [dtr]" To: rmiles@borabora.bbn.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Posted-To: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Dump of pinerc References: <5ekng7$f2p@borabora.bbn.com> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill, NJ Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com X-No-Archive: Yes Date: 21 Feb 1997 15:36:48 EST [This message has also been posted to Usenet] On 21 Feb 1997 12:54:15 -0500, Robert Miles wrote: >In article , > wrote: >>Is there a documented/undocumented way to get a running Pine session to create >>a dump of the pinerc file it is operating under. >Why don't you copy .pinerc under another name, start pine, delete .pinerc, >and see if this works? If it does, you might try again to see if going >into setup config without changing a value is enough. And then let us >know what happened. Excellent idea. I never thought of that. Oh well.. Blame it on Friday.. ;-) Yes, Pine *does* create a new .pinerc if one does not exist. Just entering/leaving setup/config is *not* enough. You have to make a actual change and of course, answer Yes to the 'Save changes?' prompt. But here is what I did..I deleted my $HOME/.pinerc I just went down to one of the features in the feature-list and hit 'Enter' *twice*. This toggled it twice, thus keeping it the same ! This time, Pine *did* think that something had changed and so it prompted me to 'Save changes?' and when I replied 'Y', it *created* a new .pinerc Thanks a lot, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:43:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA04279 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:43:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18341 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:37:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw1.att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA18333; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:37:02 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by kcig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id PAA05967; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:30:43 -0600 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19577; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:36:39 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:36:29 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Pine Developers Original-cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID HN8Q8) : 'From ' header when 'Exporting' and 'Printing' Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-162216788-856560989=:15592" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-162216788-856560989=:15592 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The first line in any mail(s) I print out to a local printer or export to a Unix files always have the date/time stamp as the *current* date/time instead of the date/time in the mail messages in question. Could you please look into it and let me know? Thanks, --Vikas Agnihotri Pine 3.95/Solaris 2.5 ---559023410-162216788-856560989=:15592 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Mon Jul 15 14:52:34 PDT 1996 on host: robin ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = vikas, full = Vikas Agnihotri [dtr] home = /home/vikas home_dir= /home/vikas hostname= joshua.insight.att.com localdom= insight.att.com userdom= insight.att.com maildom= insight.att.com cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /var/mail/vikas msgmap: tot=6, cur=6, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/91, size=25x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Vikas Agnihotri user-id : vikas user-domain : insight.att.com nntp-server : news.netnews.att.com inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : "" default-fcc : /home/vikas/mail/.outmail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : include-text-in-reply : save-will-advance : expunge-without-confirm : enable-tab-completion : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-full-header-cmd : show-cursor : print-includes-from-line : enable-dot-folders : enable-dot-files : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : print-formfeed-between-messages : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : news-post-without-validation : reply-always-uses-reply-to : auto-zoom-after-select : delete-skips-deleted : news-approximates-new-status : auto-unzoom-after-apply : auto-open-next-unread : save-will-quote-leading-froms : enable-suspend : use-subshell-for-suspend : tab-visits-next-new-message-only : use-current-dir : quell-status-message-beeping initial-keystroke-li : I default-composer-hdr : To: : Cc: : Subject: customized-hdrs : Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com : X-No-Archive: Yes : References: : Followup-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : iso-8859-1 editor : vim composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : To? To you, of course! :) image-viewer : /usr/local/bin/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp -d7d425a_dup personal-print-categ : 2 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.95 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 alt-addresses : vikas@insight.att.com : vikas@ulysses.att.com : vikas@ulysses.homer.att.com viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 1 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 15 newsrc-path : /home/vikas/.pine.newsrc elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/vikas/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Vikas Agnihotri user-domain : insight.att.com nntp-server : news.netnews.att.com folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : "" default-fcc : /home/vikas/mail/.outmail feature-list : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : include-text-in-reply : save-will-advance : expunge-without-confirm : enable-tab-completion : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-full-header-cmd : show-cursor : print-includes-from-line : enable-dot-folders : enable-dot-files : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : print-formfeed-between-messages : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : news-post-without-validation : reply-always-uses-reply-to : auto-zoom-after-select : delete-skips-deleted : news-approximates-new-status : auto-unzoom-after-apply : auto-open-next-unread : save-will-quote-leading-froms : enable-suspend : use-subshell-for-suspend : tab-visits-next-new-message-only : use-current-dir : quell-status-message-beeping initial-keystroke-li : I default-composer-hdr : To: : Cc: : Subject: customized-hdrs : Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com : X-No-Archive: Yes : References: : Followup-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender sort-key : Arrival character-set : iso-8859-1 editor : vim empty-header-message : To? To you, of course! :) image-viewer : /usr/local/bin/xv printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp -d7d425a_dup personal-print-categ : 2 last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.95 alt-addresses : vikas@insight.att.com : vikas@ulysses.att.com : vikas@ulysses.homer.att.com scroll-margin : 1 mail-check-interval : 15 newsrc-path : /home/vikas/.pine.newsrc ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete enable-dot-files enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-goto-in-file-browser no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-mouse-in-xterm enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled print-formfeed-between-messages quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list tab-visits-next-new-message-only use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) g (0x0067) J (0x004a) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) g (0x0067) ^C (0x0003) - (0x002d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) (0x0020) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) - (0x002d) - (0x002d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) TAB (0x0009) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) g (0x0067) . (0x002e) o (0x006f) u (0x0075) t (0x0074) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) g (0x0067) . (0x002e) o (0x006f) u (0x0075) t (0x0074) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) s (0x0073) . (0x002e) o (0x006f) u (0x0075) t (0x0074) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) g (0x0067) P (0x0050) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) (0x0020) g (0x0067) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ^H (0x0008) c (0x0063) ^C (0x0003) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) y (0x0079) g (0x0067) M (0x004d) i (0x0069) s (0x0073) TAB (0x0009) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) y (0x0079) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ---559023410-162216788-856560989=:15592-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:46:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA04387 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:46:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA00981 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:40:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw2.att.com (kcgw2.att.com [192.128.133.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA00977 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:40:53 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from joshua.insight.att.com by kcig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id PAA26606; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:34:43 -0600 Received: from localhost (vikas@localhost) by joshua.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA19607 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:40:28 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:40:24 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re-opening INBOX without re-starting Pine 3.95 Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just wanted to point out something in the Release Notes --------------------------------------------------------------------------- RELEASE NOTES for PINE -- A Program for Internet News and Email Version 3.95 (built Mon Jul 15 14:52:34 PDT 1996) University of Washington MISC o Can re-open INBOX without restarting Pine --------------------------------------------------------------------------- How, exactly, can I re-open INBOX without restarting Pine? I have never been able to do that. Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:58:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA04848 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18817 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:52:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu (newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.2.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18807 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 13:52:30 -0800 Received: from hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu (hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.21.56]) by newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA25612 for <@newton.ncsa.uiuc.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:52:28 -0600 (CST) Received: by hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id PAA03570; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:52:24 -0600 From: "Federal Webmasters" Message-Id: <9702211552.ZM3568@hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:52:23 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Apology: FedWebmasters mail list mixup. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu We of the Federal Webmasters Consortium would like to extend our sincere apologies for the intrusion, inconvenience, and annoyance our mail caused the readers of your list Wednesday and yesterday. By means we're not yet certain of, "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" was somehow accidentally included in our normal distribution list. It has since been removed. It was never our intention to send mail to your list, nor to cause the confusion we did. Again, we apologize for this unfortunate mishap. Sincerely, NSF/NCSA Federal Consortium Webmasters From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:05:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA22053 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:05:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA01556 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:01:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from enrico.ied.com (miranda.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.198.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA01551 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 14:00:59 -0800 Received: from ann.ied.com (ann.ied.com [192.168.200.20]) by enrico.ied.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01443; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:00:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:00:51 -0500 (EST) From: Jan Vicherek To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Fcc as process, not file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Jan Vicherek wrote: > > > Instead of saving it into sent-mail folder directly, I would like to > >do some additional processing on *every* msg that's being sent before > >saving it to the sent-mail folder. > > > > How do I do that ? > > > > I can think of a few ways : > > o define a sending filter, but then I couldn't combine it with > >other sending filters, like PGP. > > Wrong. At least with procmail, you can do that... and a few million things > more... >;-> I know I can do that with procmail. But I don't know how to tell Pine that I want to process all msgs with one of the sending filters, and then, transparently, with the procmail filter, instead of saving it into sent-mail. Thanx TTYL, Jan -- Gospel of Jesus is the saving power of God for all who believe -- Jan Vicherek ## To some, nothing is impossible. ## www.ied.com/~honza >>> Free Software Union President ... www.fslu.org <<< Interactive Electronic Design Inc. -#- PGP: finger honza@ied.com - - - - I wonder whether Jesus had available Unix drivers - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:50:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA08045 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA04292 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:41:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA04288 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:41:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vy4Yf-00038ZC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 15:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: About filtering...in Pine Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:35:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Feb 1997, SE wrote: > I'd like to ask about filtering. I receive email with different > To-lines and so I want to filter my mail to different folders by > recipient. I've seen the info: it tells me some words like BEGINNING and > RECIPIENTS, which I can use, but how? > Could someone tell me an example? I've got certain files (folders) > to which I want my mail to go so that I can read them there. Pine does not do email filtering. It was not designed to do so. You need a tool which will deliver the mail to different incoming folders before you start Pine. If you have a World Wide Web browser, browse my home page and follow the link to Nancy McGough's informative page. A few levels in you will come to considerable useful material on mail filtering. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:41:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08502 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:41:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA23412 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:36:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA23408 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 16:36:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vy5Ok-00038XC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 16:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gbeacock@uoguelph.ca (Gord F Beacock) Subject: can't access address book from compose of forward Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:00:15 GMT Message-ID: <5el5tf$gqg@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> For some reason, when I try to forward mail or compose from elsewhere that the address book (using the 'c' command) I can't take an address out of the address book. My standard proceedure is to Ctrl+T to get to the address book and 's' or 'enter' to select. The program will return to the letter but will not copy the address. I have no idea why not. It use to work last time I was set up on pine. It has nothing to do with the machine, or server. Please help thanks ------------------------------------------------------------- Gord Beacock the Mad Doctor I'm one of the puppy people lying naked in the periwinkle I also bark, growl and hate cats Here's to rewriting the human race http://www.uoguelph.ca/~gbeacock From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:36:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA27816 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07070 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:31:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA07063 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:31:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vy6If-00038WC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 17:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daniel W. Erskine" Subject: Re: Use PINE With Internet Service Provider via Modem Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 11:29:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <33038A31.3578@SSW.ALCOA.COM> <330B230D.522A@edwardjones.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Daniel Erskine wrote: > > [...] > > MIME is a method of handling Email attachments. [...] > > A small correction. MIME is used for more than just attachments. > For example, if you want to use character sets other than US-ASCII > (not everybody in the world uses English, folks), MIME provides a > standardized way for doing so. Pine's use of MIME can help make > non-ASCII character sets transparent. > > Paul > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Greetings: Thank you for your input! ------------------------------------------------------ THE PRECEDING REFLECTS THE VIEWS OF THE AUTHOR AND NOT, NECESSARILY, THE VIEWS OF EDWARD JONES. ------------------------------------------------------ Daniel W. Erskine "mailto:derskine@swbell.net" (314) 515-1406 "mailto:sys0087@edwardjones.com" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:20:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11002 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA26075 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:16:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA26071 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 19:16:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vy7sb-00038WC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 19:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: HOW'D YOU DO THAT??!!??!!??!!??!!??! Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 20:29:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, BRIAN C SIMPSON wrote: > When I post a message to a newsgroup, how do I get my name beside the name > of my message, instead of it saying "To: comp.mail.pine", etc.?????? Assuming you are using a fairly current version of Pine, go into your configuration and read the online help for index-format. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:05:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA11722 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:05:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA09069 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:01:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA09065 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 20:01:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vy8cR-00038WC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 19:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anyanwu@fas.harvard.edu (Azunna Anyanwu) Subject: Re: can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly Date: 22 Feb 1997 01:51:47 GMT Message-ID: <5eljfj$tv1$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> References: Conway Chen (chiapet@nwu.edu) wrote: : In article : , : Mark Crispin wrote: : >On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Administrador del Sistema wrote: : >> Since I reinstalled Slackware 3.1 with Pine 3.95, some users have their : >> inbox locked. The message when opening Pine is : >> 'can't open mailbox lock, access is readonly' : >> and the result is that they can't delete any mail from Pine (readonly). : I recently installed mklinux on a machine, upgraded to 8.8.5 of sendmail : and built pine on it. However, I get this error whenever I send a piece of : mail with pine, exit and then come back into pine. The only way the : message will go away is when I use the mail command and delete the new : message. Augh! I tried the above, but it didn't help. Anyone have any : suggestions? At our school, the file(s) to look for are /usr/spool/mail/username.lock. Harvard is running Digital Unix and so things might be different but I know we have this mailbox locking problem pretty frequently and deleting that file solves everything. -- Azunna Anyanwu '00 Union Dorms User Assistant anyanwu@fas.harvard.edu http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~anyanwu/ Computer Science Concentrator / Pre-med From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:11:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12372 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:11:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA27599 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:06:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA27595 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:06:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vy9fE-00038WC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 21:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Hussain T. Hasan" Subject: Consultant needed for Pine Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:32:17 -0600 Message-ID: <330A1FE0.3395@neiu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, We here at Northeastern Illinois University are currently using Pine for campus e-mail provided by our ISP (on Sun servers). We are moving to a new provider and need to move all the e-mail functionality to our own servers. This will require running the new and the old system in parallel for a couple of months and then doing a final cutover if everything works fine. Our old pine is running on a Sun and the new one is on DEC Alpha. To make this transition smooth for our users we need some consulting help. If you have experince or know somebody who does and will be interested, can you please contact me at the address given below. Thanks -- Hussain T. Hasan E-Mail: H-Hasan@neiu.edu Assistant Director Network & Distributed Services Northeastern Illinois University 5500 North St. Louis Ave., Ph: (773)794-6696 Fax: (773)794-6148 Chicago, IL 60625 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:22:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA09924 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA27782 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:18:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from enrico.ied.com (miranda.uwaterloo.ca [129.97.198.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA27778 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 21:18:34 -0800 Received: from ann.ied.com (ann.ied.com [192.168.200.20]) by enrico.ied.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA02313; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 00:18:27 -0500 Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 00:18:25 -0500 (EST) From: Jan Vicherek To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Fcc as process, not file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > [...] > > o in Fcc field, instead of specifying "sent-mail", specify > >something like : "|my_process" which would execute this process instead ! > > > > It appears to me that the third option is the most elegant one, but > >requires some coding. Could someone : > > o advise me on a better way to do it, OR > > o help me get it coded ? > > Sure, check Nancy McGough's filtering faq. Also, check the entire procmail > package *thoroughly*. Everything you need is in there. If in doubt, consult > the procmail mailing list. I read the whole FAQ, but didn't find a way to tell Pine to process every msg with a certain process before saving it to sent-mail. Any hints ? Thanx, Jan -- Gospel of Jesus is the saving power of God for all who believe -- Jan Vicherek ## To some, nothing is impossible. ## www.ied.com/~honza >>> Free Software Union President ... www.fslu.org <<< Interactive Electronic Design Inc. -#- PGP: finger honza@ied.com - - - - I wonder whether Jesus had available Unix drivers - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:31:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA00371 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:31:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA10977 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:26:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA10973 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:26:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyAsw-00038WC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 22:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Gerald Pfeifer) Subject: Re: Spaces in filename for attachments Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:26:08 GMT Message-ID: <330de828.98520405@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <01bc1a92$2a5b38a0$0108f6c7@pc2.cimegration.com> <5e3opp$b9d@news1.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 15 Feb 1997, dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) wrote: > No you can't use 'spaces' in *nix filenames [...] Please do not advise, if you don't know better: You definitely CAN use spaces in filenames in most/all(?) Unix file and operating systems. Gerald ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- .. Gerald Pfeifer (Jerry) Vienna University of Technology . .. pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/ . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:31:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12919 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:31:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA28567 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:26:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA28563 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 22:26:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyAt5-00038XC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 22:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmiles@borabora.bbn.com (Robert Miles) Subject: Re: Dump of pinerc Date: 21 Feb 1997 12:54:15 -0500 Message-ID: <5ekng7$f2p@borabora.bbn.com> References: In article , wrote: >Is there a documented/undocumented way to get a running Pine session to create >a dump of the pinerc file it is operating under. I'd expect Pine to write a new .pinerc file if you go into setup config and change a value - any value - and then shut down Pine. Of course, you then have to remember what you changed so you can change it back. Why don't you copy .pinerc under another name, start pine, delete .pinerc, and see if this works? If it does, you might try again to see if going into setup config without changing a value is enough. And then let us know what happened. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 23:45:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA17726 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 23:45:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA11875 for pine-info-out; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 23:42:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA11871 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 23:41:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyC4M-00038XC; Fri, 21 Feb 97 23:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Schneider Subject: Re: Command-line startup (compose, subject) Date: 20 Feb 1997 13:13:40 GMT Message-ID: <5ehim4$fu0@steinfurt.westfalen.de> References: <5ed5mc$nh6@steinfurt.westfalen.de> Paul O Bartlett wrote: > is it any more work to type in the subject in a header line on a > display screen than it is to key it in on the command line? Do you > start pine for every separate email? Are you restarting > Pine over and over for every piece of mail you want to send? No. Inside TIN (my Newsreader) I just press "r" for Reply and it starts automatically Pine with the "pine < text" command. Text is created by TIN an contains the article to which I answer with quote marks in front of each line. If I could get an command for include a subject I could integrate it into the command issued by tin. > Considering that one way or the other you have to type in the address > and subject for every mail, why not just start Pine once and type in > what you need for each email? As you see I do not type in the email address myself. TIN does that for me ;-). -- Daniel Schneider http://www.westfalen.de/terrania/ http://www.westfalen.de/terrania/english.html (English) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:48:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA16654 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:48:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA17286 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:43:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA17279 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:42:57 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 22 Feb 97 16:42:49 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA00729; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:49:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:49:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Gerald Pfeifer cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spaces in filename for attachments In-Reply-To: <330de828.98520405@news.tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: >On 15 Feb 1997, dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) wrote: >> No you can't use 'spaces' in *nix filenames [...] > >Please do not advise, if you don't know better: You definitely CAN use >spaces in filenames in most/all(?) Unix file and operating systems. Yeah, right! >;-> Besides, it u*ix, not *nix. *giggle* BTW, it's horribly bad style to use spaces in u*ix filenames. Anyone wants to start a flamewar on a personal basis? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:48:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA16478 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:48:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA17292 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:43:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA17282 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 07:42:59 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 22 Feb 97 16:42:50 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA00688; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:45:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 08:45:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jan Vicherek cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Fcc as process, not file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Jan Vicherek wrote: >On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> [...] >> > o in Fcc field, instead of specifying "sent-mail", specify >> >something like : "|my_process" which would execute this process >> >instead ! >> >> >> > It appears to me that the third option is the most elegant >> >one, but requires some coding. Could someone : >> > o advise me on a better way to do it, OR >> > o help me get it coded ? >> >> Sure, check Nancy McGough's filtering faq. Also, check the entire >> procmail package *thoroughly*. Everything you need is in there. If in >> doubt, consult the procmail mailing list. > > I read the whole FAQ, but didn't find a way to tell Pine to process >every msg with a certain process before saving it to sent-mail. > > Any hints ? man procmail. man formail. man pine... In the latter, it says "no filtering..." DESCRIPTION formail is a filter that can be used to force mail into mailbox format, perform From ' escaping, generate auto-replying headers, do simple header munging/extracting or split up a mailbox/digest/articles file. The mail/mailbox/article contents will be expected on stdin. [giant blablabla to follow...] How come I always get this weird feeling somethings *very* fishy when I hear someone say the magic words: "I read the whole FAQ, but didn't find a way to ..." Don't take this personally (that was just a touch of politeness---please do take it personally), but this is the wrong list to discuss filtering matters. Really. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 11:36:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA18194 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 11:36:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA20257 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 11:32:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA20252 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 11:32:18 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 22 Feb 97 20:32:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA02201 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:53:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:53:15 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: pine user-list Subject: Implementing external programs into pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's one of those weekends... on which people get high on Coke and French fries and start messing around with their systems. Sometimes, these people stumble across strange programs and then... they decide that this: On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:14:45 -0500, Foo wrote: just *won't* do... This: On Pungenday, the 53rd day of Chaos in the YOLD 3163, Foo said: would be a lot nicer... Could someone give me a little help with implementing ddate into pine instead of date? It would be pretty easy for someone who knows the source, I guess. ddate is available at: http://jubal.westnet.com:80/hyperdiscordia/ddate.html and it rules! Besides, I'd like to customize the reply-message in the above-mentioned way, but randomly, i.e. invoking a small program that will provide me with more than just the usual "wrote" ... TIA and have a nice weekend. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:53:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA20819 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA09820 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:48:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA09816 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:48:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyPJ8-00038YC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 13:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Mitchell Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 13:29:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 19 Feb 1997, Whigfield wrote: > > Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin > with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I > delete it???? > Assuming you are using a Unix machine, try: rm \!yourfile rm "!yourfile" or lastly, alias rm to rm -i (how you do this will depend on which shell you are running), and do a rm * (saying no to every file but the one you wish to delete). Paul Mitchell ============================================================================== Paul Mitchell email: paulm@thing.oit.unc.edu Office of Information Technology phone: (919) 962-5259 University of North Carolina ============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:57:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA20258 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:57:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA22259 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:53:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA22255 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:53:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyPJG-00038ZC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 13:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lou3@netcom.com (Louis Lesko) Subject: Pine as a newsreader, posting prob. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:27:33 GMT Pine experts, I've just converted to pine from elm about 60 minutes ago. I was wondering what peoples opinions of the newsreading capabilities of pine were? How do they compare to trn which I currently use? All opinions appreciated. Secondly, I tried to post to this news group from pine and I got a "No permission to talk error." I was wondering anyone could help me out with this or is it just the sys admin at netcom that is not allowing this. Thanks in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:02:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA20893 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:02:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA09918 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:58:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA09914 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:58:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyPPB-00038XC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 13:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pico Justification? Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:35:57 GMT Message-ID: <5enlbd$csm@due.unit.no> References: In article , Michael wrote: > >If you are using Pine3.95, go into setup amd towards the bottom there will >be a line that looks like this... > >composer-wrap-column = 75 (my setting is 75) As far as can determine, pico does not read the .pinerc when run as a standalone program. (At least it didn't complain when I replaced .pinerc with garbage.) In that case you need to do pico -r75 Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:02:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA20845 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:02:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA22308 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:58:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA22304 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 13:58:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyPQX-00038YC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 13:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fucuco@hamlet.net (Good Friend) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:19:33 GMT Message-ID: Subject: cmsg cancel <330d76b0.5360651@news.uoknor.edu> Control: cancel <330d76b0.5360651@news.uoknor.edu> ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Fri Feb 21 15:14:09 1997 Original subject was: Learn to Make $$$FAST CASH$$$ With Honest Work From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:59:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA22067 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:59:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA24611 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:54:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA24607 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:54:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyS7z-00038XC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 16:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Kill Files Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:04:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5e7bn2$hrf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> <5eden7$cch@news.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Nico Hailey wrote: : > But you can have a delivery program like procmail or slocal do it for you. : > That's what I do. : : For me procmail only filters mail, how do you get it to filter news? : a previous post on this thread sugested trnkill for news... Procmail does not filter news. It only deals with mail. I was the one who suggested running trnkill before reading news with Pine. It is a short Un*x script, and I will append it below my signature. There are several aspects that are necessary to know about using it. 1) Obviously, it only works on Un*x systems. 2) trn must be installed on your system and in your $PATH. 3) You must have killfiles. That is a small subject in itself which I won't go into here, although they are not too difficult to set up for basic operations. man trn can supply some information. 4) There is one minor glitch in the interface with Pine. Suppose at the moment, the highest-numbered message on your system for newsgroup soc.culture.junk.trash is 12345. It just so happens that that article meets a killfile criterion, so trnkill updates your .newsrc to mark 12345 as read. Now you are going from newsgroup to newsgroup in Pine with the key. If the next group you tab to is soc.culture.junk.trash, Pine sees that the highest-numbered article in the group right now is the same as the highest-numbered article marked as read in .newsrc, so it skips the whole newsgroup. Pine does not notice that there are some intermediate numbers which have not been marked as read. However, you can manually go back to the folder display, highlight the group, and open it "by hand." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart #!/bin/sh # trnkill - shell script to apply trn KILL files in the background # 14 Mar 89 created for rn by Jim Olsen # 10 Sep 93 modified for trn 3 (or 2) by Wayne Davison # 16 Nov 94 complete rewrite; via e-mail from Chin Huang # # Options: -d debug mode -- you see all gory action as it happens. # # Visit all newsgroups (if trn asks about anything else, just say no) export TRNINIT TRNMACRO RNMACRO TRNINIT='-q -s -T -t -x +X' TRNMACRO=/tmp/trnkill$$ # support for trn 2.x RNMACRO=$TRNMACRO trap 'rm -f $TRNMACRO; exit' 1 2 3 15 cat >$TRNMACRO <<'EOF' z %(%m=[nf]?.q^J:n)^(z^) ^m ^(z^) ^j ^(z^) EOF if test X$1 = X-d; then echo "z" | trn else echo "z" | trn >/dev/null 2>&1 fi rm -f $TRNMACRO exit 0 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:19:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA22466 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA12513 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:14:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA12509 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:14:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vySSv-00038XC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 17:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bruce H. McIntosh" Subject: NEWSRC location? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does the .newsrc file have to be on the local machine running pine? Is there some way I can keep my newsrc file on, say, the imap server? I read news from work and from home and I'd like to keep the newsreading "synced up" between home and work. Any suggestions? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce H. McIntosh brucem@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Senior Engineer http://www.afn.org/~afn37319 UF/Northeast Regional Data Center 352-392-2061 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:20:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA21392 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:20:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA24875 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:15:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA24865 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:15:43 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 23 Feb 97 02:15:35 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA04958; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:46:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 00:46:32 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Paul Mitchell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Paul Mitchell wrote: >On 19 Feb 1997, Whigfield wrote: >> Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin >> with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I >> delete it???? >Assuming you are using a Unix machine, try: > rm \!yourfile > rm "!yourfile" >or lastly, alias rm to rm -i (how you do this will depend on which shell ^^^^^ >you are running), and do a rm * (saying no to every file but the one you >wish to delete). Err... I don't think that's a good idea... Rather, try man rm and man shell (maybe man bash or whatever...) and READ man rm. Paul's idea will *probably* work, but with the "rm *" command, I'd really be careful. R_E_A_L_L_Y... There's no undelete, and that command will remove almost everything... except for directories and important files. So---why not, give it a try, because it's WEEKEND! BTW, where did billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) go? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:59:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA22147 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA12971 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from legolas.mdh.se (legolas.mdh.se [130.238.251.203]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12967 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:55:25 -0800 Received: from legolas.mdh.se (legolas.mdh.se [130.238.251.203]) by legolas.mdh.se (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA27032; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:57:42 +0100 (MET) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:57:42 +0100 (MET) From: Emil Isberg Reply-To: Emil Isberg To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: Paul Mitchell , "Robin S. Socha" Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whigfield wrote: > Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin > with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I > delete it???? Robin S. Socha wrote: > Assuming you are using a Unix machine, try: > rm \!yourfile > rm "!yourfile" > or lastly, alias rm to rm -i (how you do this will depend on which shell > you are running), and do a rm * (saying no to every file but the one you > wish to delete). Paul Mitchell wrote: > Err... I don't think that's a good idea... Rather, try man rm and man shell > (maybe man bash or whatever...) and READ man rm. Paul's idea will > *probably* work, but with the "rm *" command, I'd really be careful. > R_E_A_L_L_Y... There's no undelete, and that command will remove almost > everything... except for directories and important files. So---why not, give > it a try, because it's WEEKEND! Hmm .. in bash-v2.00 does rm \!file and rm '!file' work as do rm -i ?file (could be several files) .. rm "!file" don't work (history expansion) .. [But if you need to be "really" sure be sure that the file will be removed type rm -rf / (readmail -realfast). Disclaimer: I will take no repsonsibility if anyone types this command.] > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux. > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ That's a one very good line .. if your signature where a little more compact (less spaces in it/only two seperators/less lines) It would too be a great one .. :-) /Emil "The last good thing written in C was Franz Schubert's Symphony number 9." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 19:03:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA23081 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 19:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA25985 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:59:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA25981 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:59:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyU7F-00038YC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:04:50 GMT Message-ID: <5enjh2$c7h@due.unit.no> References: In article , Whigfield wrote: > >Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin >with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I >delete it???? Some people have erroneously suggested putting the filename in double quotes; However this only works for most special characters, not ! and $. Single quotes are more reliable. rm '!whatever' And as mentioned, you can also put \ before special characters. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 20:58:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA19115 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 20:58:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA14960 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 20:52:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com (emout19.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.45]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA14956 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 20:52:24 -0800 From: Moudie@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id XAA18860 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:52:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:52:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970222235222_-1876401136@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: i was woundering Hi I was Woundering if you could tell me how to send anonymous e-mail. Without breaking the law (.i.e.haching) It is for a school assignment, and i was just woundering. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:44:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA15090 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA16894 for pine-info-out; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:40:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA16890 for ; Sat, 22 Feb 1997 23:40:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyYUr-00038XC; Sat, 22 Feb 97 23:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdnoh@icaen.uiowa.edu () Subject: PC-Pine Installation Help Date: 23 Feb 1997 04:10:49 GMT Message-ID: <5eog09$eug@server05.icaen.uiowa.edu> I just downloaded PC-pine to my computer and tried to install it without success. My computer is connected to a mail server through win95 TCP/IP. In pine setup, I entered {hostname}INBOX in inbox-path. However, PINE keeps saying "connection refused" without asking me to type username or password. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------- Myounggyu Daniel Noh mdnoh@icaen.uiowa.edu Assistant Research Scientist (Neurosurgery) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:59:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA26146 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA01586 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:55:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA01582 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 02:55:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyba8-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 02:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniyal Ali Subject: PC PINE UNDER WINDOWS NT CONSOLE Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 11:59:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3305EB69.6F00@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello every one! I was wondering if any one has used pc pine as console application under windows nt to check their mail. I keep getting the message "host not found" after i run pine. I have tried playing with the pinerc file but it does not help PLEASE HELP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:04:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27349 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:04:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA01652 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:00:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA01646 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:00:10 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA26059 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Message-Id: <199702231100.DAA26059@shivax.cac.washington.edu> From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE This message is being sent to pine-info@cac.washington.edu weekly to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:40:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA27512 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA02926 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:34:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA02919 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:34:32 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 23 Feb 97 13:34:25 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00617; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:22:46 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:22:46 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Moudie@aol.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: i was woundering In-Reply-To: <970222235222_-1876401136@emout19.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 Moudie@aol.com wrote: ^^^^^^^^ >Hi I was Woundering if you could tell me how to send anonymous e-mail. > Without breaking the law (.i.e.haching) It is for a school assignment, > and i was just woundering. What's that assignment? Contributing to a.s.s. or breaking the record for "ME TOO's" sent on one day? Check the internet for anonymous mail-servers. a.s.s. (which you probably know already) should give you many examples. This is _not_ a pine related question. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49 228 22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:40:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA21911 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:40:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA02932 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:34:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA02928 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:34:43 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 23 Feb 97 13:34:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00595; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:18:27 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:18:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Emil Isberg cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >>>>Whigfield wrote: >>>Paul Mitchell wrote: >>Robin S. Socha wrote: >On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Emil Isberg crapped: Sorry for this lengthy piece of email, but a) darling Emil screwed up the quotations, and b) there is something in the message (type rm -rf / (readmail -realfast)) that needs a little clarification: >[But if you need to be "really" sure be sure that the file will be >removed type rm -rf / (readmail -realfast). Disclaimer: I will take no >repsonsibility if anyone types this command.] This is neither funny nor responsible. In short: This command will make an attempt at removing (rm) everything on your disk recursively (/ -r), without waiting for your permission (-f force). This won't work, of course, but might do some damage to your homedir. It originated as a joke in response to a spammer's request for help: :>In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup :>comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten :>wrote: :>How can i send 1000s of emails ?? :type :'rm -rf * pine' :at a Unix shell prompt. :The "rm" means "read mail" and the "-rf" option means "really fast", which :is most appropriate when you are sending out more than 100 pieces at a :time. The "*" means for the "readmail" command to send to as many addresses :as it can find, and the "pine" of course means to use pine to do it. :The "readmail" command is named that way for historic reasons. Don't ask. To put it in a "poetic" way: You say: "readmail -realfast" and you claim these words as your own but I'm well-read, have heard them said a hundred times (maybe less, maybe more) if you must write prose/poems the words you use should be your own don't plagarise or take "on loan" there's alway someone, somewhere with a big nose, who knows and who trips you up and laughs when you fall. Morrissey would probably kill me for this >;-> It's Cemetry Gates off the Smiths' "The Queen is dead". Now for the rest (which is totally irrelevant, so don't read any further). >>>>Whigfield wrote: >>>> Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin >>>> with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I >>>> delete it???? >>> Paul Mitchell wrote: >>> Assuming you are using a Unix machine, try: >>> rm \!yourfile >>> rm "!yourfile" >>> or lastly, alias rm to rm -i (how you do this will depend on which shell >>> you are running), and do a rm * (saying no to every file but the one you >>> wish to delete). >> Robin S. Socha wrote: >> Err... I don't think that's a good idea... Rather, try man rm and man >> shell (maybe man bash or whatever...) and READ man rm. Paul's idea will >> *probably* work, but with the "rm *" command, I'd really be careful. >> R_E_A_L_L_Y... There's no undelete, and that command will remove almost >> everything... except for directories and important files. So---why not, >> give it a try, because it's WEEKEND! >Hmm .. in bash-v2.00 does rm \!file and rm '!file' work as do rm -i >?file (could be several files) .. > rm "!file" don't work (history expansion) .. Does anyone give a toss? /--->FLAME ON I suppose you're not billd@voicenet.com (Bill D), so here's my very personal opinion of this suggestion: 1) We've had this before, but at the time it was a) appropriate and b) funny. 2) I strongly suspect that you've never touched a computer running u*ix before, otherwise you'd know that the command won't do what you seemingly think it will. 3) For historic reasons, I don't like Swedes. I don't like pathetic little show-offs, either. You seem to be both. Could you please stick you head up a dead pig? >> ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ >> On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" >> ... so I got myself Linux. >> ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ >That's a one very good line .. if your signature where a little more >compact (less spaces in it/only two seperators/less lines) It would too be >a great one .. :-) ..."too"... like whose? If your "mails" were a little shorter (like 0kb?), you might make less innovative contributions to the yet unwritten pamphlet "How to rape the English language". Don't bother responding. FLAME OFF---->/ Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49 228 22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:40:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA27785 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:40:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA02922 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:34:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA02917 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 04:34:31 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 23 Feb 97 13:34:22 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00401; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:32:35 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:32:35 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Bruce H. McIntosh" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NEWSRC location? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Bruce H. McIntosh wrote: >Does the .newsrc file have to be on the local machine running pine? Is >there some way I can keep my newsrc file on, say, the imap server? I read >news from work and from home and I'd like to keep the newsreading "synced >up" between home and work. Any suggestions? From pine's built-in help: ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # Full path and name of NEWSRC file newsrc-path= OPTION: newsrc-path This option overrides the default name Pine uses for your "newsrc" news status and subscription file. If set, Pine will take this value as the full pathname for the desired newsrc file. If this option is not set, Unix Pine looks for the file ~/.newsrc and PC-Pine looks first for $HOME\NEWSRC (where $HOME defaults to the root of the current drive, e.g. "C:\" ) and then it looks in the same directory as your pinerc file for NEWSRC. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49 228 22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 05:14:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA23255 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 05:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA03346 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 05:09:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from CPIMAILMTY1 (cpimailmty1 [148.246.247.106]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA03342 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 05:09:44 -0800 Received: from afn - 148.246.179.11 by infosel.net.mx with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:06:28 -0600 From: "Agustin Fragoso Navar" To: Subject: Apple IMAGEWRITER II--How do I print in color? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:08:59 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <063972806131727CPIMAILMTY1@infosel.net.mx> AFN Cuernavaca. I'm using an Imagewriter II with a PC computer I've tried the various configurations, but nothing works. E-mail replies, please. Many thanks! -- Agustin Fragoso franavar@infosel.net.mx Cuernavaca, Mor. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:09:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA28322 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA21560 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:05:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA21556 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:05:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyeYM-00038ZC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 06:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sergio Tessaris Subject: Problem with SENDER identification Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 15:43:16 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have a problem with Folder Index SENDER field identification. It seems that pine doesn't recognize a mail sent/saved by myself. Usually it correctly reports a 'To: ...' line but sometimes it writes my name instead. The problem seems to be related to not fully qualified address in 'From:' line. Pine doesn't recognize an unqualified hostname as a local domain host. Now we are using version 3.95q, the old 3.91 version doesn't seem to be affected by this problem, mail messages are correctly reported with 'To:' also for unqualified address. How we could reconfigure pine 3.95 for the old behavior? This problem makes big folders completely unreadable. (please reply also by email) --sergio -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sergio Tessaris International Center for Theoretical Physics Scientific Computing Services str. Costiera 11, I-34100 Trieste, Italy Fax: +39 40 2241 63 e-mail: tessaris@ictp.trieste.it Phone: +39 40 2240 600 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:54:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA28498 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA22027 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:50:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA22023 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 06:50:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (pilgrim@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id HAA25659 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:49:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:49:59 -0700 (MST) From: Papa Pilgrim Reply-To: Papa Pilgrim To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "Read Only" ??? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Something strange is happening with my inbox. all of a sudden I am unable to delete any of the incoming messages. Instead I get the cue: "[Can't delete message. Folder is read-only.]" I have done nothing in Config file or anywhere else. Someone please tell me how to delete from the inbox. Thank you. -pilgrim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:04:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24725 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:04:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA04583 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:00:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA04577 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 07:00:19 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 23 Feb 97 16:00:12 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA00865; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:24:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:24:55 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Agustin Fragoso Navar cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Apple IMAGEWRITER II--How do I print in color? In-Reply-To: <063972806131727CPIMAILMTY1@infosel.net.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Agustin Fragoso Navar wrote: >AFN Cuernavaca. Yo! >I'm using an Imagewriter II with a PC computer I've tried the various >configurations, but nothing works. Dear AFN, this is a mailing list that deals with questions about the email-program pine. You might want to post your question to one of the following news-groups: comp.periphs.printers comp.sys.mac.printing misc.forsale.computers.printers Please don't reply to the list. TIA. Cheers, Robin Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 08:51:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA29184 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 08:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA05825 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 08:46:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA05821 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 08:46:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vygzB-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 08:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 08:31:34 -0600 Subject: Schedule for E-mail Message-ID: <856362445.14723@dejanews.com> Hi there, Can we create schedule's for outgoing E-mail ??? Example : Suppose at 10.10 a.m. E-mail to "A" will go. Again at 11.00 a.m. E-mail to "B" will go. Remembering that we are not logged, when the E-mail goes from our server. Am i asking too much ? Any help will be highly appreciated. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:37:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA29798 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:37:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA23868 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:31:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA23864 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:31:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyhhr-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 09:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mic@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Michael Salzmann) Subject: Re: Will these be in 4.0? Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:31:37 GMT Message-ID: <5e9tkp$hkg$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , adam@cfar.umd.edu (ADAM Sulmicki) writes: > > By the way does anyone know any threaded mailer? If such exist I would > like to give it a try... > Try mutt ("the mailer that sucks less" - M.E.) http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/ -- Michael Salzmann * mic@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:31:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22330 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA24535 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:26:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA24531 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:26:09 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 23 Feb 97 19:26:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA01731; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:50:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:50:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Papa Pilgrim cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Read Only" ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Papa Pilgrim wrote: >Something strange is happening with my inbox. all of a sudden I am >unable to delete any of the incoming messages. Instead I get the cue: >"[Can't delete message. Folder is read-only.]" For a detailled answer, we need a little more information about your system. What flavour of u*ix are you running, where is your inbox, are you running pine locally or on a remote system, blablabla... ? However, the error-message is pretty much self-explanatory. The folder in which your incoming mail is stored has been made read-only for you. Talk to your sysadmin to change that. IMVHO, that's a lot easier than exchanging everybody's favourite remedy here :-) If you insist on checking what's wrong, though, check where your "inbox" is (Setup, Config, inbox-path) and then try to do a ls -alF to check ownership and permissions for that file. Maybe you've *accidentally* changed something there. Then chmod u+w would do the trick. Don't forget to consult the appropriate man pages ;-) >I have done nothing in Config file or anywhere else. Someone please tell >me how to delete from the inbox. That's what they all claim... whiner! >;-> Cheers, Robin Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de Dresden 45 Tschernobyl 85 Windows 95 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:35:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA30664 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:35:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA07779 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:31:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA07775 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 11:31:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyjcS-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 11:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Re-opening INBOX without re-starting Pine 3.95 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:22:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: from anywhere in pine type the letter g for go to foler you can type inbox if it is not already there and pine will reopen it for you marcus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:17:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15239 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA25806 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:11:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA25802 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:11:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vykFE-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 12:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruud Senden Subject: tmail Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 20:32:23 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone been able to compile tmail under OS/2 using gcc? I want to process messages (retreived from a POP-server) with procmail (which I have been able to compile, but some things don't work correctly yet), and store them into Tenex/MTX-format, so I can read them with Pine for OS/2. I've downloaded imap-utils.tar.gz, imap.tar.gz and pine.tar.gz (all from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/), but when trying to compile tmail, I get all kinds of errors. I've been able to solve some of them, but most errors not. Does anybody perhaps have working executables for tmail and/or procmail, or could someone who is better at porting than me, try to compile them succesfully? Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Ruud. :""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""|""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""": : Ruud Senden | Meisjes? dat is niets voor mij. : : Dept. of Computer Science | Als zij lief doen, moet ik lachen, : : Utrecht University | Als ik lief doe, lachen zij - : : E-mail: rsenden@cs.ruu.nl | : : Fidonet: 2:280/804.2054 | Uit: 'Pieter Bas', Godfried Bomans : """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:56:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30487 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA08715 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:51:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA08711 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 12:51:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vykt8-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 12:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: How Far Is Down !!! Subject: *Help*:Different return address Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't know if This is possible in Pine: I want to send e-mail from my first account but the return address shown in the e-mail to be ONLY my second e-mail account. hummmmm Gholo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~A B A D A N H O M E P A G E ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Http://www.abadan.com _ Shahram _ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:41:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA32168 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28296 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:37:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28284 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 15:36:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vynT5-00038YC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 15:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Pico Justification? Date: 23 Feb 1997 23:33:59 GMT Message-ID: <5eqk57$clg@due.unit.no> References: <5enlbd$csm@due.unit.no> In article , Michael wrote: > >Sorry, I was under the impression that the poster was trying to set the >length when Pico was invoked by Pine. I don't know what the poster was trying, but in any case there isn't a uniform pico interface, so if he uses it both ways he needs both methods. Something for a future release? Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:11:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA32642 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:11:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA11166 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:07:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA11162 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:07:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vynun-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 16:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hart Larry <74273.1770@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Is their a folders solution? Date: 23 Feb 1997 23:52:11 GMT Message-ID: <5eql7b$hlo$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Hi All: First of all thank you for the Pine slow link solution. Please tell me if there is a similar fix for folders, as they still read the last item then the current item. Thank you much -- I love hi-energy dance and techno music Hart Larry Culver City, CA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:36:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA01023 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA00638 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:32:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA00634 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:32:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyqBW-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 18:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Pico Version Number? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 13:28:04 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi Bill, On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Bill Fairchild wrote: : Could anyone tell me the current PICO version number? : I know of only the version we have here and that is version 2.9. C-ya, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:37:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02508 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:37:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA15788 for pine-info-out; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:32:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA15784 for ; Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:32:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vytwD-00038XC; Sun, 23 Feb 97 22:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Fujyh Luo" Subject: Forward mail form one account to another Date: 24 Feb 1997 06:15:59 GMT Message-ID: <01bc221a$d1048640$2fc3b8cd@fujyh> Hi: Does anybody know how to forward an e-mail from 'A' account to 'B' account automatically? In addition, it will left a copy on 'A' account which means both 'A' and 'B' get e-mail. Thank in advacne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:42:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA22514 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:42:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04953 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:38:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA04949 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:38:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyvsO-00038YC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 00:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine Editor <===*A Question No One Could Answer Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:50:50 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199702232327.QAB14225@xmission.xmission.com> {soc.culture.iranian trimmed out of followup} On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Papa Pilgrim wrote: > In article you wrote: > : The solution is very simple. You can use the Bcc: or Lcc: headers > : if your version supports them. Lcc: is the cleanest. However, your > : message header indicates a Pine version of 3.91, which is old and does > : not support Lcc:. > I use Bcc a lot but I not that you recommend Lcc. What is > Lcc and I would I use it-the same as Bcc? First, you must be using a sufficiently recent version of Pine in order to have Lcc:. (I do not recall exactly with what version it came in.) Lcc: and Bcc: are similar in purpose -- to conceal recipients of the same email from one another for some reason -- but Lcc: is cleaner to use. For technical reasons, you should make some kind of entry in the To: header field when using Bcc:. This is not necessary with Lcc:. Also, with Lcc:, the nickname of the distribution list is what appears to the recipients when they open the mail. (This is going from memory, as I have not had reason to use Lcc: myself. Others on the newsgroup can correct or amplify my answer.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:00:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03537 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA17506 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:54:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA17500 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:54:28 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id JAA12330; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:54:25 +0100 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA15247 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:51:27 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA00939; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:17:23 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:17:20 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Michael Salzmann cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mutt (was: Re: Will these be in 4.0?) In-Reply-To: <5e9tkp$hkg$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 17 Feb 1997, Michael Salzmann wrote: > In article , > adam@cfar.umd.edu (ADAM Sulmicki) writes: > > > > By the way does anyone know any threaded mailer? If such exist I would > > like to give it a try... > > > > Try mutt ("the mailer that sucks less" - M.E.) > http://www.cs.hmc.edu/~me/mutt/ > Mutt doesn't seem to support IMAP. Or does it? thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:16:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03900 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17785 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:12:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ren.ren.nic.in (ren.nic.in [164.100.10.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA17781 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:12:19 -0800 From: jag@csrrltrd.ren.nic.in Received: by ren.ren.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15200; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:48:19 +0530 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:48:19 +0530 Message-Id: <199702240918.OAA15200@ren.ren.nic.in> Subject: Pine Config Problems Received: from csrrltrd by ren.nic.in; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:48 IST Content-Type: text Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Hi.........! I have PINE 3.91 running in Linux which came with slackware. When I receive the message with content type message/partial as the only part of the message pine could show me only the raw text of base 64 coded message. I have a mailcap file defining showpartial content type and the showpartial program came metamail program also installed in the path. But in my knowledge pine consults the mailcap file only for attachments. How to configure pine to display this type of message. The original message was send using mailto of metamail. At present I am not in this list. So please set your CC: jag@csrrltrd.ren.nic.in Thanks in advance for any ideas Jagannathan.R ------------------------------------------------------------------ JAGANNATHAN.R Email: jag@csrrltrd.ren.nic.in Scientist & Sysadm Phone: 0091 471 490674 Regional Research Laboratory Fax : 0091 471 490186, 491712 Trivandrum - 695 019 Telex: 0435 - 6232 Kerala, India Grams: CONSEARCH ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:29:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03992 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:29:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA05591 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:24:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA05587 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:24:01 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:35:43 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA03120; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:32:29 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:32:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Schedule for E-mail In-Reply-To: <856362445.14723@dejanews.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323584-589518276-856747949=:3072" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323584-589518276-856747949=:3072 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Setting Orange, the 55th day of Chaos in the YOLD 3163 grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in wrote: >Can we create schedules for outgoing E-mail ??? > >Example : >Suppose at 10.10 a.m. E-mail to "A" will go. >Again at 11.00 a.m. E-mail to "B" will go. >Remembering that we are not logged, when the E-mail goes from our server. >Am i asking too much ? Any help will be highly appreciated. I've included a small script by Leif Erlingsson that will "Queue Remote Mail + Deliver Local Mail". You'll still need to set up a cron-job on the server. Still, the script is IMVHO *really* neat, so I dare put it on the list. Flame me at random if you like ;-) BTW, I still haven't received an answer for a problem I've been whining about before: When there are more than two potential recipients in a reply, how can I tell pine that I might want only a few of them, but not "all recipients"? *nag* Cheers, Robin Robin S. 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(8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA06031 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:52:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06027 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:52:23 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:49:22 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA22546; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:51:52 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:51:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "Bruce H. McIntosh" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NEWSRC location? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" If you are using NNTP to _read_ Usenet News (it's always used to _post_ News articles) then your .newsrc file has to be visible to your local machine. By this I mean it is usually on its hard disk, but may in some setups be one a disk mounted over the network using (for example) NFS. The actual location of this newsrc file can be set in the Setup Configuration screen. However it is also possible to _read_ Usenet News over an IMAP connection (instead on an NNTP one). This assumes, of course, that your IMAP server machine has been configured to allow this! If you _do_ elect to use an IMAP connection to read News then the IMAP server itself maintains the newsrc file, rather than your local machine upon which your client software is running. This therefore means the same newsrc file gets used (by the IMAP server) regardless of the client software you are using or where it is running from. To set this up on your client you need to: * Set up the nntp-server variable as usual (so that you can _post_ News articles). * Set up the news-collections variable to a value along the lines of: Usenet News *{news.york.ac.uk}[] Because this latter omits the "/nntp" protocol specifier it defaults to use an IMAP connection to the host. However, as I said before, this will only work if your IMAP server has been configured to provide access to Usenet News. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Bruce H. McIntosh wrote: > Does the .newsrc file have to be on the local machine running pine? Is > there some way I can keep my newsrc file on, say, the imap server? I read > news from work and from home and I'd like to keep the newsreading "synced > up" between home and work. Any suggestions? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bruce H. McIntosh brucem@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu > Senior Engineer http://www.afn.org/~afn37319 > UF/Northeast Regional Data Center 352-392-2061 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:42:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA32306 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA19533 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:38:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA19529 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 03:38:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vyyj0-00038YC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 03:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@linux.scott.home (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Forward mail form one account to another Date: 24 Feb 1997 11:02:28 GMT Message-ID: References: <01bc221a$d1048640$2fc3b8cd@fujyh> On 24 Feb 1997 06:15:59 GMT, Fujyh Luo wrote: >Hi: > >Does anybody know how to forward an e-mail from 'A' account to 'B' account >automatically? In addition, it will left a copy on 'A' account which means >both 'A' and 'B' get e-mail. > >Thank in advacne If your A account is a unix account, in your home directory, in file .forward (make sure you put in the "."), usernameonB@somewhere.com will forward the mail to B. But, it won't leave it on A, so \usernameonA usernameonB@somewhere.com will do it. Maybe. Sorry, I don't remember the exact syntax. Anybody? ".forward" also needs to be world-readable, I think. "chmod o+r .forward" Just the opposite on B, if you want mail arriving at B to go to A as well. Caveat - this *may* create an endless mail loop. See man procmailex and man procmail for ways around this. -- -- Scott Buntin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:18:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA03478 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA08340 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:13:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA08336 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:13:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vz0Bo-00038YC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 05:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: "Read Only" ??? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:36:25 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199702232322.QAA11348@xmission.xmission.com> On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Papa Pilgrim wrote: > In article you wrote: > : On 23 Feb 1997, Papa Pilgrim wrote: > > : One of the most common causes for this condition on Un*x systems > : is starting two or more sessions of Pine. [...] > : I have found that the cleanest solution is to > : gracefully quit (if possible) or kill (if necessary) ALL of the Pine > : sessions and start over. > I think that is exactly what has happened. How do I "gracefully quit (if > possible) or kill (if necessary) ALL of the Pine sessions and start over" > please? Well, you quit whatever Pine session you are in -- i.e., what you see on your display -- in the normal way with Pine's standard Quit command. From here on out, it is no longer a Pine question but a Un*x question. On most Un*x systems, the 'ps' command will display all running processes for your login session. It may be possible to bring a background Pine session to the foreground with an appropriate use of the 'fg' command; if that is successful, you can quit it like any other Pine session. Otherwise you will have to use the 'kill' command (in extreme cases the 'kill -9' command). Documentation for all these commands should be available online from your shell prompt via the 'man' command (as this is not really a Un*x tutorial newsgroup). If you still have problems, contact me privately, although I am not a Un*x guru and am not online 24 hours a day. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:48:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA32112 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA21767 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:43:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA21763 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 06:43:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vz1Z6-00038YC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 06:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae986@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Mavis Spence) Subject: bad contex Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:01:45 GMT Message-ID: <5es709$pb5@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> -Every time I check for mail in Pine I receive this message "bad contex, no "[" in contex - mail" Could someone tell me what that means and how to correct it. It also gives me a "beep-beep" like I am doing something wrong! Mavis. m From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:24:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA01274 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA09951 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:20:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA09947 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 07:20:10 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:17:04 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA16138; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:19:34 GMT Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:19:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Mavis Spence cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: bad contex In-Reply-To: <5es709$pb5@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" You probably _are_ doing something wrong ;-) The "bad context" message you're seeing is because the folder specification is missing the "[]" placeholder string. This is the point at which Pine inserts the name of the folder you're trying to open. Thus, for example, a folder-collection should be specificed along the lines of: folder-collections = Mail {imap.york.ac.uk}Mail/[] This is taken from my own settings, which use IMAP to access the folders stored in the subdirectory called "Mail" within my home directory. If you can't spot where your problem lies e-mail a copy of your .pinerc file to the list and I'm sure some pair of sharp eyes will be able to assist. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 24 Feb 1997, Mavis Spence wrote: > > > -Every time I check for mail in Pine I receive this message "bad contex, > no "[" in contex - mail" Could someone tell me what that means and how to > correct it. It also gives me a "beep-beep" like I am doing something > wrong! > > Mavis. > > m > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:19:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA10956 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:19:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA17006 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:11:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from falcon.inetnebr.com (falcon.inetnebr.com [199.184.119.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA17002 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:11:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (stvoldue@localhost) by falcon.inetnebr.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA00243 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:11:53 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:11:52 -0600 (CST) From: affection X-Sender: stvoldue@falcon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: My msgs seem to be out of order anyway Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have it set in the sort-key section to order the msgs by the to filed. I'd like to know why are some msgs not in order? I mean most are but some arent and it bothers me cuz since i tok the time to do this i'd like it done like it is spose to be. Like One list then another then another or peson or whatever. Also does this have anything to do with whether u are in or out of pine when new msgs come in? thanks for your help in advance. sincerely scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:02:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA16129 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA01112 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:57:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from falcon.inetnebr.com (falcon.inetnebr.com [199.184.119.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA01108 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 12:56:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (stv@localhost) by falcon.inetnebr.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA03548 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:56:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:56:53 -0600 (CST) From: lovable X-Sender: stv@falcon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: this is stvoldue. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well i am sorry.i chnaged my name just now. So this is where to send any replies to thank you for baring with me and i just chaged it to this and now im gona keep this for a while forever. scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:28:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17744 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:28:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA20531 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:22:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA20525 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:22:30 -0800 Received: from grizzly.patriotnet.com (grizzly.patriotnet.com [206.151.9.248]) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01362 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:18:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:23:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" X-Sender: scoile@grizzly.patriotnet.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Will Pine remember my IMAP password? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to configure UNIX Pine to remember my IMAP password so that I don't have to type it in each time I start-up Pine? -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:30:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17263 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:30:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA03392 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:24:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA03388 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:24:49 -0800 Received: from grizzly.patriotnet.com (grizzly.patriotnet.com [206.151.9.248]) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01655 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:21:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:26:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" X-Sender: scoile@grizzly.patriotnet.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Configure Pine to use same IMAP connection for all mailboxes? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have Pine configured to access multiple incoming mail folders on my IMAP server. Being the system manager of the IMAP server (), I can review the connection logs. I notice that Pine seems to be establishing a new connection (including login) each time I move between folders. Is there a way to cut-down on this, so that Pine logs in only once and uses the same connection regardless of which folder I'm looking at? The current method seems like something of a network waste. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:34:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17834 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA20718 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:29:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA20711 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:29:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vz8qX-00038ZC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 14:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Pico Justification? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:17:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5enlbd$csm@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi Jie, On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Jie Yuan wrote: : So, can one specify an environment so that Pico can be launched with a : right margine of, say, 75 columns, independent of Pine? : Create an ALIAS in your .login... alias pico 'pico -r75' ...that should do the trick. L8R, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:00:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19653 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA05727 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:56:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bc.seflin.org (bc.seflin.org [199.227.192.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA05723 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:56:17 -0800 Received: (from z600264a@localhost) by bc.seflin.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA08224; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:55:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:55:52 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Blank To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe Bill Blank z600264a@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:07:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA13006 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:07:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05925 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:05:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA05918 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 16:05:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzAJf-00038aC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 16:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jon Crookston Subject: From + To fields with usenet Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:42:48 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As you will see on this posting, where everyone else's messages give their names in the index page, mine gives To:comp.mail.pine. Why is this? Why doesn't it give my name? Any help gratefully accepted. Cheers, P.S. Usually (not always, using ^O to postpone a composition doesn't save the message, but cancels and writes dead.letter. What's wrong? Thanks. (Jon Crookston, Materials Engineering With Russian) When in charge, delegate When in trouble, ponder When in doubt, mumble. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:31:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA21814 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07983 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:28:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cornell.edu (cornell.edu [132.236.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA07979 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 17:28:20 -0800 Received: from hawk.aben.cornell.edu (HAWK.ABEN.CORNELL.EDU [128.253.239.152]) by cornell.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA25616 for <@router.mail.cornell.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:28:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost by hawk.aben.cornell.edu via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) for id UAA03096; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:30:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:30:03 -0500 (EST) From: Teresa Nam To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP with erased message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I had several important messages which suddenly disappeared (some were even only an hour old). Are there any ways to check if these messages have truely been erased? Thanks ahead of time for the help. Teresa K. Nam Dept of Ag & Bio Engineering Cornell University 305 Riley-Robb Hall Ithaca, NY 14853 e-mail: tkn1@cornell.edu phone: (607)254-7247 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:52:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA22691 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:52:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA09521 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:49:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.iusb.edu (mail.iusb.edu [149.161.1.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA09517 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:49:02 -0800 Received: from oit1.iusb.edu (awasmer@sun1.iusb.edu [149.161.1.2]) by mail.iusb.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA18951 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:48:34 -0500 Received: by oit1.iusb.edu id VAA21091; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:48:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:48:53 -0500 (EST) From: April L Wasmer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing an email message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have received an email letter which I would like to print on my Lexmark 1020 colorfine 2 printer on Lpt1. Can you help me configure my computer to allow this? Thank you. A. Wasmer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:28:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA22321 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:28:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA10046 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:25:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA10042 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:25:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzDUU-00038aC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 19:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: VIEW IT NOW!!!! Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:15:39 GMT Message-ID: <5enk5b$ce3@due.unit.no> References: In article , BRIAN C SIMPSON wrote: >A friend of mine recently sent me an email message with an attachment on >it. Pine wouldn't let me view it, stating that it > >"Doesn't know how to read Application/OCTET-STREAM attachments." That is the attachment type used when the sending mail program doesn't know what type the file is. And of course, that makes pine at the receiving end unable to know, as well. In other words, it could be almost anything. The best bet is to look at the filename it suggests when saving, and run the appropriate program "by hand" on the saved file. You may want to start with 'less filename' in case the format is something resembling ordinary text. A couple of common file types: .gif, .jpeg - use an image viewer, e.g. xv. .doc - Microsoft Word documents, you need to get it to a PC. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:43:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA08576 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA27642 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA27638 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:40:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzDjz-00038aC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 19:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Sending takes too long Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:50:04 GMT On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > Main -> Setup -> Configuration -> enable-background-sending > > assuming you're not using QDOS++ What is QDOS++??? I just tried to set enable-background-sending in the Windows 95 version of Pine and it's not in the list of possible variables. Does anyone know why this variable isn't in this version? Thanks, Nancy -- .-. / \ .-. .-. / / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / /Nancy McGough--Infinite Ink/---\---/-\---/---\http://www.ii.com -/-- \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / `-' `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:47:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA23387 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA10312 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:45:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA10308 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:45:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzDml-00038ZC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 19:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jie.yuan@uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Pico Justification? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 10:15:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5enlbd$csm@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , Michael wrote: > : pico -r75 > : > > Sorry, I was under the impression that the poster was trying to set the > length when Pico was invoked by Pine. Well, I was not trying to invoke Pico by Pine. I was using Pico directly from command line. I was trying to figure out whether there was an environment parameter that affects Pico in the same way as the -r option. I am well aware of the configuration options in the .pinerc file for Pico under Pine. So, can one specify an environment so that Pico can be launched with a right margine of, say, 75 columns, independent of Pine? Thanks for your responses though! Jie --Jie Yuan - Pharmacology & Cell Biophysics - U. Cincinnati -- ==POBox 670575, 231 Bethesda Av., Cincinnati, OH 45267-0575 == ==513-558-2352=x-1169(fax)=jie.yuan@uc.edu=http://uc.edu/~yuanj== ==PGP: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu=using NewsWatcher(Mac)== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:53:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA24160 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:53:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA28666 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:50:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA28662 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 20:50:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzEnP-00038ZC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 20:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Dame Subject: Japanese Support for Pine Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 15:54:34 -0600 Message-ID: <330E199A.5C1E@mem.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does any know if there is Japanese support for PINE? (canna) Either reading and sending? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------Mike Dame Texas Instruments Inc. HPUX System Administration Dallas, Texas 75243 mdame@ti.com E-:-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:44:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA24509 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:44:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA11900 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:41:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha1.albany.edu (alpha1.albany.edu [169.226.1.25]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA11893 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 21:41:34 -0800 Received: from cnsvax.albany.edu by cnsvax.albany.edu (PMDF V5.1-6 #18385) id <01IFTBBARLPKHSMC5B@cnsvax.albany.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:43:05 EST Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:43:05 -0500 (EST) From: el2063@cnsvax.albany.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just wanted to know how I could send a message to everybody in my address book without typing everybody's name in seperately. Thanks. -Erin Lawlor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:13:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12680 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:13:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29825 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:08:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccserv.cc.nccu.edu.tw (ccserv.cc.nccu.edu.tw [140.119.2.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29821 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:08:46 -0800 Received: from localhost (roberta@localhost) by ccserv.cc.nccu.edu.tw (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA17573 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:07:59 +0800 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:07:59 +0800 (CST) From: roberta To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT I seem to have a problem after I log in and write pine. The process goes through, but before it does, the computer beeps and says, "incomplete maildomain cc.serve." The it tells me the address may be incorrect. Why is it saying this? Is there anything I should do? Or should I just ignore it? Thanks for your help. Roberta Rosenberg, National Chengchi University, Taiwan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:45:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA25624 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12830 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:43:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12826 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:43:37 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA00939; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:43:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 22:43:25 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configure Pine to use same IMAP connection for all mailboxes? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve, Pine 4.x will take advantage of the STATUS command in the IMAP4rev1 spec to cut down on the number of separate sessions. This should help quite a bit; however, it will always be necessary to open an additional stream when a second folder is actually opened, as the INBOX stream is always kept open. (And IMAP sessions can only have one folder open at a time; i.e. it relies on TCP's multiplexing abilities, rather than defining --reinventing-- such capabilities in the application protocol.) It's true that this does result in some additional authentication overhead, however. -teg On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > I have Pine configured to access multiple incoming mail folders on my > IMAP server. Being the system manager of the IMAP server (), I can > review the connection logs. I notice that Pine seems to be establishing > a new connection (including login) each time I move between folders. > Is there a way to cut-down on this, so that Pine logs in only once and > uses the same connection regardless of which folder I'm looking at? > The current method seems like something of a network waste. > > -- > Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering > scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:33:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA25575 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA13392 for pine-info-out; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:31:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA13388 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 1997 23:31:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzHIb-00038aC; Mon, 24 Feb 97 23:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: a100700@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk (Jim Law) Subject: Folder is corrupt!! Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 07:18:24 GMT Message-ID: <5eu3o2$1n9@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> Recently, when I started pine. The follow message appeared. Folder is corrupt!! I can't read it!! Then I tried to edit the mbox is see what's going wrong. Unfortunately, I cannot figer our the problem. Does anyone know is there any program that can fixed corrupt mailbox. Would you please let me know can I found one. Regards, Jim Law The Chinese University of Hong Kong From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:43:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA26549 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA01976 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:41:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA01972 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 00:41:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzINj-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 00:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MARCUS25 Subject: Re: Hi. Pine 3.95 is irritating Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5dm1kc$oqa@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dm1kc$oqa@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> to go forward a page in the index hit the space bar. to go back a page hit dash marcus this si also true in the index On 10 Feb 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > I'd like to say that since using 3.95 over 3.91, I find one thing very > bothersome. When the cursor is at the top or bottom of the index screen, > I can no longer cursor up or down to go to the next or previous page. > > Instead Pine insists on scrolling ONE more line on screen. Why does it do > this silly thing? > > It's was much nicer before when cursoring up would proceed to the previous > page of the index. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:33:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA11315 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:33:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02572 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:30:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02568 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 01:30:54 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:27:50 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA14552; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:30:24 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:30:23 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jon Crookston cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: From + To fields with usenet In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Jon Crookston wrote: > As you will see on this posting, where everyone else's messages give their > names in the index page, mine gives To:comp.mail.pine. Why is this? Why > doesn't it give my name? Any help gratefully accepted. Extract from the built-in help for the Index screen ("?" command): ===== SENDER: The name or email address of the sender. If you are the sender, then the first recipient's name is shown here. In Newsgroups, if you are the sender and there are no email recipients, the newsgroup name will be listed. ===== This is done because Pine assumes that you know your own name, and hence can *imply* the message is from you by the presence of the "To:" prefix. The remaining space is then used to display the first recipient or newsgroup name. Only your own Index screen is affected; other people see you name in the Index screens. This feature is incredibly useful when viewing the Index of folders containing outgoing messages (eg, your "sent-mail" folder if you have one), or a mix of incoming and outgoing messages. It really does help you locate a particular message "by eye". If you *really* can't live with this feature you can redefine the appearance of the Indx screen in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. Look for the "index-format" variable and read its built-in help. (Hint: set up a definition similar to the default given in the help screen, but with FROMORTO replaced by FROM.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:09:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA27212 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA16786 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:06:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA16782 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:06:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzLak-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 04:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Victoria Stanfield Subject: Two signature files Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:02:31 -0600 Message-ID: <33122C17.66E9E3FC@traveller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there currently any way to attach one of two signature files depending on whether the mail is leaving your domain or not? I believe elm supports this. I wouldn't care, but my employer wants all e-mail leaving to have a company signature file instead of my private sig. Would it be possible to include this capability in a future release of Pine? Thanks, vicki stanfield vicki@traveller.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:20:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA12015 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA04516 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:17:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA04507 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:17:22 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 25 Feb 97 13:17:15 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00538; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:10:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:10:30 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: el2063@cnsvax.albany.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 el2063@cnsvax.albany.edu wrote: >I just wanted to know how I could send a message to everybody in my >address book without typing everybody's name in seperately. Thanks. Type C(ompose), ^T (To AddrBk), L (ListMode), and X [Set/Unset] the people you need. That's in Pine 3.95. Cheers, Robin Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:40:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA29287 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA05503 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:37:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA05499 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:37:47 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id OAA05460; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:37:26 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id OAA03664; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:30:34 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Received: by mail.ife-le.de (Smail-3.2.0.91) with smtp; id for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:42:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:41:49 +0100 (MET) To: Victoria Stanfield cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Two signature files In-Reply-To: <33122C17.66E9E3FC@traveller.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Victoria Stanfield wrote: -> Is there currently any way to attach one of two signature files -> depending -> on whether the mail is leaving your domain or not? I believe elm -> supports -> this. I wouldn't care, but my employer wants all e-mail leaving to have -> a -> company signature file instead of my private sig. Would it be possible -> to -> include this capability in a future release of Pine? -> -> Thanks, -> -> vicki stanfield -> vicki@traveller.com -> Hallo Vicki, you can configure your needs. Type 'S','C' in the main screen and see HELP on items 'sending-filters' and 'compose-send-offers-first-filter'. Hope, this could help. Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:04:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA29230 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:04:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA05768 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:01:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA05764 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 06:01:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzNRW-00038aC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 06:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Animal Subject: Re: Dump of pinerc Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 05:53:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Feb 1997 vikas@joshua.insight.att.com wrote: |Is there a documented/undocumented way to get a running Pine session to create |a dump of the pinerc file it is operating under. | |Would be useful if say, I deleted my $HOME/.pinerc and still had a Pine |session running, luckily. All I have to do is get Pine to re-create the |.pinerc it is running under. | Choose "setup/configure" from pine main menu, then change one setting. When you exit configuration it will ask if you want to save changes. Answering "yes" will write new .pinerc with options you had set plus the one change you made. ============================================= = animal@mclv.net * http://mclv.net/animal/ = ============================================= There are those who would have us believe that if we surrender enough of our civil rights that crime could be drastically reduced. Even if this ridiculous assumption were true the loss of personal freedom is _not_ an acceptable trade-off. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:52:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA15679 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA19802 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:49:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu.psi.com (uu.psi.com [38.9.86.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA19792 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 07:49:50 -0800 Received: from emma.troy.ny.us by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA21070 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 25 Feb 97 10:49:42 -0500 Received: by emma.troy.ny.us (8.6.10/SMI-4.1) id PAA10947; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:45:29 GMT Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:45:28 -0500 (EST) From: Lynn Burdick X-Sender: lynnb@emma To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Building Pine on SCO Unixware Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am attempting to build pine on unixware. When I give the build uw2 command I am getting the following errors. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Making c-client, mtest and imapd UX:sh (build): ERROR: make: not found Making Pico and Pilot UX:sh (build): Error:make: not found Making Pine Ux:sh (build): ERROR:make: not found Links to executables are in bin directory: Ux:sh (build) : ERROR: size not found Done. Also the bin directory is empty. Thanks! lynnb@emma.troy.ny.us ____________________________ Lynn M. Burdick Emma Willard School lynnb@emma.troy.ny.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:03:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA31939 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:03:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA21419 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:58:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21415 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 08:58:35 -0800 Received: from forbin.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.3DC60670@mailer.syr.edu>; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:58:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (dmpeluso@localhost) by forbin.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23595 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:58:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: forbin.syr.edu: dmpeluso owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:58:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel M. Peluso" X-Sender: dmpeluso@forbin.syr.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: E-mail Sucks!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI................ I don't know what's wrong with my e-mail but I know for a fact that people are writing me and I am not recieving their messages. At first I thought it was definately disk space but I cleared out a bunch of messages but it didn't seem to help!!!!!! Please Help Me!! Dan Peluso Syracuse University dmpeluso@mailbox.syr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:57:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA00033 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:57:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA22928 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:52:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA22924 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:52:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzR27-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 09:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) Subject: Re: Schedule for E-mail Date: 25 Feb 1997 12:50:50 GMT Message-ID: <5eun7a$tgc@sugar.h.belgacom.be> References: <856362445.14723@dejanews.com> grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in wrote: : Hi there, : Can we create schedule's for outgoing E-mail ??? : Example : : Suppose at 10.10 a.m. E-mail to "A" will go. : Again at 11.00 a.m. E-mail to "B" will go. : Remembering that we are not logged, when the E-mail goes from our server. : Am i asking too much ? Any help will be highly appreciated. Very easy, you can send email simply using: mail -s 'subject' user@domain and if you want schedule this, simply enter it into a crontab... ex: 10 10 * * * mail -s 'Hello' grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in 00 11 * * * mail -s 'Hello2' your_userB@... and every days, at 10.10, you'll received a mail... You can even send a file by mail like this: mail user@... Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:03:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA18947 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA24628 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:58:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cougar.isg.siue.edu (cougar.isg.siue.edu [146.163.5.29]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA24615 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 10:58:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (fblumbe@localhost) by cougar.isg.siue.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA16373 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:02:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:02:37 -0600 (CST) From: Fred Joseph To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Newsgroups Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help! I cannot seem to find out how to subscribe to newsgroups. Is there a certain server that I need to be in? If you have any information, please send it to me. Thanks for your time fblumbe@siue.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:16:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA01348 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:16:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA12434 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:12:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA12430 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:12:13 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA27246 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 25 Feb 97 14:12:07 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id NAA09304; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:49:34 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:49:34 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: "Daniel M. Peluso" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: E-mail Sucks!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just couldn't resist this one. Dear boy, there are many reasons why you may not be receiving your mail. Very few of them relate directly to Pine, but you may want to make sure you have your INBOX path set correctly for starters. Aside from that, have you checked with your System Admin regarding possible problems? This would be another good place to start. Once you can substantiate that the problem is Pine-related, write back, and we'll try to help you out. Until then, please direct your exasperation some- where else. Joe:D PS: If you read all this, then you *are* receiving mail, aren't you?! On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Daniel M. Peluso wrote: > > HI................ > > I don't know what's wrong with my e-mail but I know for a fact > that people are writing me and I am not recieving their messages. At > first I thought it was definately disk space but I cleared out a bunch of > messages but it didn't seem to help!!!!!! Please Help Me!! > > Dan Peluso > > Syracuse University > > dmpeluso@mailbox.syr.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:52:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA02444 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13417 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:48:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13409 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:48:35 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18434>; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:28:20 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:45:25 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine remember my IMAP password? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Feb25.142820est.18434@gateway.happy.com> Steve, This isn't a matter of pine "remembering". In order to get around your problem, your system administrator (you?) has to put you in a "trusted user" file on the system such as "/etc/hosts.equiv". The users listed in that file are not required to type in their password everytime they start pine. (BTW, hosts.equiv is what we use on the AIX flavor of Unix, I'm sure about the exact name on other Unix systems). I hope that puts you in the right direction. ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > > Is there any way to configure UNIX Pine to remember my IMAP password so > that I don't have to type it in each time I start-up Pine? > > -- > Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering > scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:27:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA01412 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:27:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA26554 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:21:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26550 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:21:01 -0800 Received: from grizzly.patriotnet.com (grizzly.patriotnet.com [206.151.9.248]) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA25615; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:16:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:22:35 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" X-Sender: scoile@grizzly.patriotnet.com To: SandraB cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine remember my IMAP password? In-Reply-To: <97Feb25.142820est.18434@gateway.happy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, SandraB wrote: [...] >In order to get around your problem, your system administrator (you?) has to >put you in a "trusted user" file on the system such as "/etc/hosts.equiv". >The users listed in that file are not required to type in their password >everytime they start pine. > >(BTW, hosts.equiv is what we use on the AIX flavor of Unix, I'm sure about >the exact name on other Unix systems). Sounds like you're using "rimap" to retreive mail with IMAP, rather than accessing the IMAP server directly. When using "rimap", Pine will attempt to connect to your account on the server using rsh, then invoke rimap from there. If the r-services are set-up and your account information is valid on the server end, the method you describe will work; unfortunately, our environment isn't secure enough to allow use of the r-services, so that's not an option. Thanks for the suggestion, though. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:07:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA07143 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:07:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA15226 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:02:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA15215 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 13:02:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzTz2-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 13:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sondage <94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Subject: Q: IMAP Server, PC Pine config Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 11:40:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3313161B.7835@callisto.si.usherb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just configured PC Pine for Windows but I keep getting the "access refused" message. My inbox file is /var/mail/spool/94251116 in my host machine, callisto.si.usherb.ca Then the inbox path would be: {callisto.si.usherb.ca}/var/mail/spool/94251116 Am I correct? Another question: My sysadmin is not even sure they have IMAP configured. Running AIX 4.1, how can he figure out if it is? Alos, I dont undesrtand how I am validated as the legit mail user 94251116@callisto.si.usherb.ca Does that mean anyone can read my email by configuring PCPINE? Where is the password configured? Many questions, so little time.. Thanks for any advice. Fabian Rodriguez From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:59:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06020 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:59:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA00571 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:53:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA00565 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:53:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzVhg-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 14:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: E-mail Sucks!! Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:10:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Feb 1997, Daniel M. Peluso wrote: > I don't know what's wrong with my e-mail but I know for a fact > that people are writing me and I am not recieving their messages. At > first I thought it was definately disk space but I cleared out a bunch of > messages but it didn't seem to help!!!!!! Please Help Me!! First, there is no assurance that this is a Pine problem and that therefore this is the best venue for resolving your problem. Second, you didn't really provide enough information for people to make much of a start on your problem. Third, you identify yourself as having some kind of affiliation with Syracuse University. Most universities providing end-user computing services have some sort of help desk or information center. They may be able to help you faster that we can, especially if it is not a Pine problem (and not receiving mail more likely is not). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:48:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA23777 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:48:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA21430 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:43:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA21426 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:43:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzXOe-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 16:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Pico Version Number? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:38:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Bill Fairchild wrote: > Could anyone tell me the current PICO version number? Pico 2.9 is the one that comes with Pine 3.95. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:04:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA09936 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA05440 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:58:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA05436 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:58:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzYZj-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 17:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roger Southwick Subject: Re: Digest bursting in Pine (3.95q)? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:13:20 -0800 Message-ID: <33138020.2781E494@mdhost.cse.tek.com> References: <33135F58.41C67EA6@mdhost.cse.tek.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger Southwick wrote: > > Under MH (6.8.3) there was a command "burst" to take E-Mail digests and > break them up into individual E-mail messages. Never mind, we figured out how to do this with "formail": formail +1 -ds >> folderfile worked great. -- -Roger (Roger.S.Southwick@tek.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:26:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA04628 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:26:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA23540 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:23:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA23536 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:23:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzZ0S-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 18:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matsushj@rintintin.colorado.edu Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:33:01 -0600 Subject: how do I automatically send a message Message-ID: <856894772.24658@dejanews.com> Hello! I was wondering how to send a message automatically that tells people that I'm not around on a certain account anymore and tell them how to reach me. Is there a way to do this in pine (UNIX)? Thanks in advance! --Jody -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:41:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA10376 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA23770 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:38:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA23764 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:38:37 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id SAA22512; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:22:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 18:22:52 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: matsushj@rintintin.colorado.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I automatically send a message In-Reply-To: <856894772.24658@dejanews.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Check out the MAN page for 'vacation.' Greg batchman@liberty.com On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 matsushj@rintintin.colorado.edu wrote: > Hello! > > I was wondering how to send a message automatically that tells people that > I'm not around on a certain account anymore and tell them how to reach me. > Is there a way to do this in pine (UNIX)? > > Thanks in advance! > > --Jody > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:59:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA07542 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA07157 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:57:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA07147 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 19:57:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA12130; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:57:02 -0500 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:57:02 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net To: Peter Karlsson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pico Version Number? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why does one use something like Pico? On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Bill Fairchild wrote: > > Could anyone tell me the current PICO version number? > Pico 2.9 is the one that comes with Pine 3.95. > \\// > Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ > - Paul --- "To have doubted one's first principles is the mark of a civilized man." - Oliver Wendell Holmes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:10:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA30144 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA24990 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:04:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from unicorn.it.wsu.edu (unicorn.it.wsu.edu [134.121.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA24986 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:04:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (99729619@localhost) by unicorn.it.wsu.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA31537 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:04:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:04:42 -0800 (PST) From: Sean King Donovan <99729619@wsunix.wsu.edu> X-Sender: 99729619@unicorn.it.wsu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to view an attachment Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to know how I can view the picture someone sent me using the pine system. If it is possible please tell me how I should go about it. Thank you. Sean Donovan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:56:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA03865 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA25670 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:53:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA25666 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:53:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzbM5-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 20:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: opus123456789@juno.com Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:51:22 -0600 Subject: Spam Blocker email address headers? Message-ID: <856849387.3274@dejanews.com> Hi All, I have seen other people adjust their email address in the header so when they post to Usenet they don't get a deluge of spam and ads. We have a UW account using Pine and would like to do this also. We use M$ Terminal to log on if that helps. My guess would be to open up Setup in Pine but if someone could guide me thru what to copy in on what line of the set up. We would like to change our email address to spamblock@u.washington.edu that way the spam will bounce back to the unsolicited advertiser. Thank you for any help. Take care, J Melusky __ o ___|[]| ___ o ^. .^ \__|______| |\/ o\ o ( @ ) snowplow, fish, pig /-(o_o_o_o) |/\___/ -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:21:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA09072 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:21:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA08339 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:18:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA08333 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:18:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzbjG-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 21:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Milton Escobar Subject: Soccer Mad Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:10:48 +1000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anybody is welcome to join this group. Soccer is the world game. So let me know what do you want to know about the following League. I watch the Italian League, Spanish League, and English League. At the moment I think that the Spanish League is the best. What do you think? ___________________________________________________________________________ I hope to hear from you very soon. Your Soccer mad student Siete. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:51:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA11086 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26474 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26469 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:48:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzcBd-00038ZC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 21:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Luke Grant Subject: Help Me Please Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:36:45 +1000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yesterday I sent an E-mail to find out how to export from pine and the response I got was extremely helpful but I now have another problem. How do I use FTP ? If anyone knows of an internet site of has any information I would be extremely greatful. Thanks in advance Luke Grant :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:51:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA09669 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA08812 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:48:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA08808 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:48:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzcDV-00038aC; Tue, 25 Feb 97 21:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Glenn Fullager Subject: Removing attachments before posting Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:39:07 +1100 Message-ID: <3313CC7B.6DE7@telstra.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If I've attached a file/document to an email, and then before sending the message realise I don't want it attached anymore, how do I get rid of it? Just erasing the Attachmnt: header line doesn't work as it doesn't let me erase the attachment number, and then won't let me send the email without putting some sort of attachment in there. There is probably an easy solution to what I'm doing, but I'll be buggered if I can find it. Any help appreciated. -- Glenn Fullager | Email : g.fullager@telstra.com.au CDN/B Network Software | Snail : PO Box 226, Clayton VIC, 3168. ITG | Phone : +61 3 9253-8609 Fax: +61 3 9253-8577 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:13:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12119 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA09112 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:10:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dat95pkn.campus.mdh.se (dat95pkn.campus.mdh.se [130.238.247.110]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA09108 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:10:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (peter@localhost) by dat95pkn.campus.mdh.se (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA00137; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:10:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 07:10:02 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Karlsson To: Paul Kayak cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pico Version Number? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-Warning: Junk / bulk email will be reported Organization: 2:206/221.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Paul Kayak wrote: > Why does one use something like Pico? To edit text files, I would guess ;) \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:52:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12601 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:52:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA09783 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:49:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from falcon.inetnebr.com (falcon.inetnebr.com [199.184.119.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA09776 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:49:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (stv@localhost) by falcon.inetnebr.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA24616 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:49:44 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:49:44 -0600 (CST) From: lovable X-Sender: stv@falcon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pissible bug in pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have it so my msgs are supposed sorted by the to field. Well it does fine in most cases, but once in a while i see msgs sneaking in between the thing i was reading earlier and then it goes back to it. Whats the deal. Why is pine behaving like this. i use pine 3.95. Anyone that cangive me a suggestion please? thanks in advance. scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:53:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA10395 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA28579 for pine-info-out; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:50:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA28575 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 1997 23:50:30 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 26 Feb 97 08:50:22 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA01190; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:23:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:23:32 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Lynn Burdick cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Building Pine on SCO Unixware In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Lynn Burdick wrote: >I am attempting to build pine on unixware. When I give the build uw2 >command I am getting the following errors. Any suggestions would be >greatly appreciated. > >Ux:sh (build): ERROR:make: not found >Ux:sh (build) : ERROR: size not found Just what it says, I'd say: size and make are not in your path or even not on the system. >Also the bin directory is empty. Which one? You could try: locate make / size or which make / size to see if those commands really aren't on your system. Cheers, Robin Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:11:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA10388 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:11:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28800 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:09:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA28794 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:09:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzeOo-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 00:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Gonzalez Subject: Tagging and applying? Date: 26 Feb 1997 07:48:04 GMT Message-ID: <5f0prk$kcv@nexp.crl.com> Anyone know how I can tag all the files I want to save to the "saved" folder? I'd like to tag all those files then save them to the saved folder all at once. Right now I have to press "s" for save and save them one at a time. Thanks -Tony . . . . . . . . . . . . ._______________________________________. | oak@crl.com | http://www.crl.com/~oak | |_____________|___ Southern California _| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:54:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA13783 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:54:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA11472 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:49:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA11468 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 00:49:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzf2M-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 00:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Kalisch III Subject: "Path:"-Header Bug Fix Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:31:28 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2143964720-524104804-856902688=:17174" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2143964720-524104804-856902688=:17174 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [Posted to comp.mail.pine and Cced to the Pine Developers] These are instructions on editing the Pine source code to fix a bug in the way pine generates "Path:" headers when a user is posting to newsgroups. Under the current distribution, if the use of alternate "From:" headers is enabled a compile-time, and one uses an alternate "From:" header, the "Path:" header that is generated by Pine is bogus. Example: Normally, a post from this account and machine (sjkiii, crl4.crl.com) would partially read: Path: ...!nexp.crl.com!crl4.crl.com!sjkiii From: Stan Kalisch III But let's say I want to use an alternative e-mail address in my "From:" header, thus causing Pine to generate an "X-Sender:" or "Sender:" header. This is what happens: Path: ...!nexp.crl.com!crl4.crl.com!coolio From: Stan Kalisch III X-Sender: sjkiii@crl4.crl.com Only problem is that I am not user coolio on this machine--in fact, on this machine user coolio doesn't exist! Ooops... To fix this problem, edit the imap/ANSI/c-client/nntp.c or imap/non-ANSI/c-client/nntp.c (depending, of course, on your kind of compiler) in your Pine source distribution, and find the following two lines: sprintf (tmp,"Path: %s!%s\015\012",tcp_localhost (stream->tcpstream), env->from ? env->from->mailbox : "foo"); Edit the second of these two lines so that these lines read sprintf (tmp,"Path: %s!%s\015\012",tcp_localhost (stream->tcpstream), "not-for-mail"); This is the quickest, most painless fix you can apply to your Pine source code for this problem, and barring ridiculous circumstances, shouldn't cause you a problem. Thus, the previous example Path: ...!nexp.crl.com!crl4.crl.com!coolio From: Stan Kalisch III X-Sender: sjkiii@crl4.crl.com would be modified to read as the following: Path: ...!nexp.crl.com!crl4.crl.com!not-for-mail From: Stan Kalisch III X-Sender: sjkiii@crl4.crl.com The "not-for-mail" follows the convention adopted in the INN news-server software. As this is an unofficial modification to the Pine source code, you should add the letter "L" to your version number of Pine before compiling, as specified in the Pine Legal Notices that come as part of the Pine source distribution. Best regards, Stan Stan Kalisch III sjkiii@crl.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: http://www.crl.com/~sjkiii/PGP.Current_Public_Key iQCVAwUBMxNMLpyiGl9g1kgJAQH2NgP/Rp4zOkT41e1wXCjXQYvUPtnU3E35GIrt icJj7R4fGjDfbb3GrvNbOFw+/YSXOXIRKox5Nq3iZTCQwE3hwYd/FziyexLMlmsl 55IUjZVi3qnuYyc0RUorhdnbQPRJv8ZwdDBgQ+ZhANXhF1MCWqJAlQhDh6HZAUZ2 v8WmXHTB4wA= =9Lbw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---2143964720-524104804-856902688=:17174-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:11:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA12056 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA29599 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:09:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA29595 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:09:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzfKI-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Newsgroups Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:00:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ok first before i go into this let me say if you are running pine 3.89 or earlier, you cannot subscribe to news groups! ok now go into your inbox and hit "l". then hit your right arrow then hit return or enter. then hit a and you shoudl be able to hit the news group! if you dont know the exact name you can enter just a word and then controll x in pine 3.91 or just return in 3.95! it wil then show you a list of news groups and then you can arrow right to go forward and left arrow to go back! hit return whe you find the group you want! to open these groups in the future go into your inbox and hit l then right arrow then return and you will see the groups you subscribed to! you can then press return after hiting the right and left arrows til you come to the one you wnt! oh i forgot you must press return twice after hiting the right or left arrows after first arrowing to the proper news group when first subscribing to it! hope this helps marcus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:21:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA21336 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA29746 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:19:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA29742 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:19:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzfT3-00038aC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anton Tomas Subject: Re: PGP for PINE and EUDORA Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 20:09:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5emqm2$kp3@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5emqm2$kp3@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 22 Feb 1997, j.r. bolton wrote: > I am a novice about PGP, so I would appreciate some information. > > Is there a PGP "attachment" for the unix PINE mailer program or the PC > Eudorra Windows program? If not, what mailers do have PGP capability? Hi, There exist several pgp filters for unix pine. I've made one myself as I was not satisfied by the existing ones. Look for 'pinepgp' on http://www.aigis.demon.nl . Anton Tomas anton@aigis.demon.nl PGP-key on http://www.aigis.demon.nl -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQEVAwUBMxM5AcsuwpawRoVxAQHN/QgAnSwqVY11PrBJv9k0UODR6/css7F2HEIr +EaT8a2yNbqs6IeUu8w6CeyOPb/RdNzSqZWegF4c1PMcBvkEWxrAMO/lo3IVvdw+ zFE5b5H+00PRnJh2qZS5SdfnrsRKP511av0/9w6UVezuu0oqLyUBNWKiyntwk7ll /Qy59qgAxbVU+4vqwaykIXhMocIRxKsALBBakwvIJd5XqXf3jyXJosXhnciSwa8Q A1WzH5IFNQKofwJ6TpTy+Q4XABsR5kIYF66b4+DhFBiXovvs9gfNzTMAqkZ5DMFk VBtqu4EOSKmJr25BZMXmwJDbOBN55PyXxtIq7KdUf0voxBdU2iUR9w== =Db6e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:22:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13251 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:22:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA11891 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:19:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA11887 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:19:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzfSI-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Re: how do I delete files beginning with a "!"??? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 22:54:28 GMT References: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) writes: > >Does anyone know how to delete files from my home directory that begin > >with an "!" the ! character is for some reason not allowed. How do I > >delete it???? > > Some people have erroneously suggested putting the filename in double > quotes; However this only works for most special characters, not ! and > $. Single quotes are more reliable. > > rm '!whatever' > > And as mentioned, you can also put \ before special characters. Two other simple ways are using Emacs' "dired" (ESC-x dired RET) or, easier yet, Lynx's "dired" (g . RET). _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:36:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA14123 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA12095 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:34:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA12091 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:34:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzfgG-00038cC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Kalisch III Subject: Procmail Vs. Listproc in Sorting Mail (was: Re: Untitled) Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 08:01:50 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [posted and mailed] On 17 Feb 1997, Paul Kayak wrote: > What is suggested for getting Filter or Listproc (for sorting-to- > INBOX?) I currently subscribe to a mailing list run via Listproc. The code is so buggy, that it assumes the "Version" line in a PGP signature is giving Listproc some kind of command, and it returns an error--except it doesn't inform the submitter of the post that his/her post has been rejected. Procmail, on the other hand, is very robust, widely respected, and generally acknowledged as the best mail processing program available. if you can think of it, it can probably do it. There's also a Procmail mailing-list for especially troublesome questions; its address is in the Procmail documentation. Stan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: http://www.crl.com/~sjkiii/PGP.Current_Public_Key iQCVAwUBMwnSe5yiGl9g1kgJAQFFlgP+M00ClMc9E+BLULD+6E1ImkvKR1zbhT9A McWXwwb5/8Esw+TWVtP/SQTgO8fXRe9KoGRDhV/hHnc/wcyBMvYZxtlXt4CRNy5E +4jC9pCCwQHYItKllzeSK99BBYiOpHcwyoh+q85B1BADR9rN0axQOYbzgWow9XlX rM52zEqCPc0= =S+zN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:02:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA00109 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:02:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA00387 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:59:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA00383 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:59:25 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19274; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:58:40 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:58:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Tony Gonzalez cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tagging and applying? In-Reply-To: <5f0prk$kcv@nexp.crl.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 26 Feb 1997, Tony Gonzalez wrote: > Anyone know how I can tag all the files I want to save to the "saved" > folder? I'd like to tag all those files then save them to the saved > folder all at once. Right now I have to press "s" for save and save > them one at a time. First go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) and make sure that the "enable-aggregate-command'set" option is checked. Whilst there, read its built-in help (by typing ?) which explains what this setting does, and the new commands it gives you. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06770 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:28:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00742 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:24:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA00735 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:24:23 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 26 Feb 97 11:24:15 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00672; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:01:16 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:01:16 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: opus123456789@juno.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spam Blocker email address headers? In-Reply-To: <856849387.3274@dejanews.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Feb 1997 opus123456789@juno.com wrote: > I have seen other people adjust their email address in the header so >when they post to Usenet they don't get a deluge of spam and ads. We have >a UW account using Pine and would like to do this also. We use M$ >Terminal to log on if that helps. My guess would be to open up Setup in >Pine but if someone could guide me thru what to copy in on what line of >the set up. > We would like to change our email address to >spamblock@u.washington.edu that way the spam will bounce back to the >unsolicited advertiser. What for? There are less annoying means to acheave that, without making people c&p your address into the header each time they want to write to you. Check this document for further information: http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html Filtering those addresses is certainly more effective in the long run ;-) Cheers, Robin Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:28:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA14691 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00738 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:24:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA00733 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:24:21 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 26 Feb 97 11:24:13 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id IAA00646; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:57:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:57:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sean King Donovan <99729619@wsunix.wsu.edu> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to view an attachment In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Sean King Donovan wrote: > I would like to know how I can view the picture someone sent me >using the pine system. If it is possible please tell me how I should go >about it. Thank you. Probably the easiest thing to do is to use Metamail, infrastructure for mailcap-based multimedia mail handling. Get it from the internet, adjust the necessary values in the mailcap file, make sure you got the paths right in your .pinerc -- finished. Cheers, Robin Robin S. Socha | Bonner Talweg 56 | Tel: +49 228 22217-8 Political Science Dept. | 53113 Bonn | Fax: +49 228 22217-9 Bonn University | Germany | email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:34:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA16267 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:34:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA14464 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tapti.hss.hns.com (tapti.hss.hns.com [139.85.242.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA14460 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:31:31 -0800 Received: from sharyu.hss.hns.com (sharyu.hss.hns.com [139.85.242.20]) by tapti.hss.hns.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA08191 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:00:04 +0500 (IST) From: C_Mallikarjuna Received: (from cmalik@localhost) by sharyu.hss.hns.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id RAA16993 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:58:45 +0500 (IST) Message-Id: <199702261258.RAA16993@sharyu.hss.hns.com> Subject: Pid 27539 killed due to text modification or page I/O error To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:58:44 IST X-Mailer: Elm [revision: 109.18] hi using pine 3.95 on hp-ux 7.09 on hp 735 machine i am gettting this error when ever i start pine Pid 27539 killed due to text modification or page I/O error Killed and aborts From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:08:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA16854 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA03403 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 05:59:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA03399 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 05:59:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzjqQ-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 05:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Re-opening INBOX without re-starting Pine 3.95 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 03:34:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: hmm may be you should try to get into a news group then tab through all your news groups and then even though it says no more folders to tab to press tab anyway and it will ask you if you want to return to your inbox and hit y see if that helps! that is my last suggestion! marcus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:19:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA16591 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA15784 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:12:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA15780 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 06:12:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05030 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:41:17 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:41:17 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII help which From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:07:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA07744 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA17459 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:00:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA17455 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:00:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzliv-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 07:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: proper headers Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:03:21 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 14 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: > > : Thanks for the feedback, sorry if I'm spamming the newsgroup. My concern > : was not that I couldn't see my name in print, but that others were seeking > : my posts in the same way as I was, and not getting the proper information. > : Now I know better -- It's not a bug, it's a feature! > : > : On Thu, 13 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > : > On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, Mike Miller wrote: > : > > Whenever I see a post I have made to a newsgroup, it is always > : > > listed as To: > : > Sigh. Repetition number 4,238,109 of this Frequently Asked > : > Question. What you are describing is Pine's default behavior. [...] > > Just to clear up any possible misconceptions, what you see and what > your recipient sees may not be the same thing. Pine by default shows > you one thing concerning your outbound mail. What your recipient's > mailer shows him/her may be different. There is a whole smorgasbord of > message headers. Which one or ones a given mailer shows under any > given set of circumstances depend on the mailer, how it is configured, > and what the particular circumstances are. These days, even two Pine > users at each end of the message channel may see something different. > I was just in another ng and I saw another person's (not mine) mail headers listed that way. Only this one guy's posts were listed this way. gs From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:23:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA17840 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:23:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA05959 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:20:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA05955 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:20:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzm1D-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 08:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anindya@durga.mindspring.com (AC) Subject: cut&paste in X doesn't work for pine 3.9.5! Date: 26 Feb 1997 14:20:23 GMT Message-ID: <5f1gr7$ee6@camel2.mindspring.com> Hi everyone, I apologize if this question has already been posed in this newsgroup. but I am having the incredibly annoying problem of not being able to cut and paste from pine 3.9.5 when it runs inside an xterm. I am using Debian Linux, kernel 2.0.27, libc.so.5.4.13, and "vanilla" xterms -- I have the "enable-mouse-in-Xterm" option enabled, only it seems to do nothing. DO I need to downgrade to 3.94? Is this a known bug? How can I fix this? Thanks in advance, --ANindya Network Engineer/DNS Admin anindya@mindspring.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:03:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA20110 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA20473 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:00:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20463 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:59:56 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:56:52 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id RAA03487; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:59:27 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:59:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: AC cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cut&paste in X doesn't work for pine 3.9.5! In-Reply-To: <5f1gr7$ee6@camel2.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 26 Feb 1997, AC wrote: > I apologize if this question has already been posed in this newsgroup. but I am > having the incredibly annoying problem of not being able to cut and paste > from pine 3.9.5 when it runs inside an xterm. I am using Debian Linux, > kernel 2.0.27, libc.so.5.4.13, and "vanilla" xterms -- I have the > "enable-mouse-in-Xterm" option enabled, only it seems to do nothing. > DO I need to downgrade to 3.94? Extract from the built-in help for the "enable-mouse-in-xterm" variable in the Setup Configuration screen: ***** Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. ***** Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:42:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA23158 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:42:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA24341 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:31:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA24337 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:31:55 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA23035; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:31:36 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:31:36 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net To: Mike Brudenell cc: Tony Gonzalez , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tagging and applying? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What should I reply, when PINE asks me for Select criteria? (Which will be after I type <;> . Thanks in advance. On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On 26 Feb 1997, Tony Gonzalez wrote: > > Anyone know how I can tag all the files I want to save to the "saved" > > folder? > > First go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) > and make sure that the "enable-aggregate-command'set" option is checked. > Whilst there, read its built-in help (by typing ?) which explains what > this setting does, and the new commands it gives you. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:43:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA23907 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA24564 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:40:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA24558 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:40:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzq4l-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 12:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Pico Version Number? Date: 23 Feb 1997 21:41:53 GMT Message-ID: References: On Sun, 23 Feb 1997 19:37:37 GMT, Bill Fairchild wrote: > > >Could anyone tell me the current PICO version number? > I think that pico is at version 2.9 later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:06:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA08231 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA13307 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:00:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA13303 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:00:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzqOa-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 12:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: "Read Only" ??? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:52:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Feb 1997, Papa Pilgrim wrote: > Something strange is happening with my inbox. all of a sudden I am unable > to delete any of the incoming messages. Instead I get the cue: "[Can't > delete message. Folder is read-only.]" > > I have done nothing in Config file or anywhere else. Someone please > tell me how to delete from the inbox. One of the most common causes for this condition on Un*x systems is starting two or more sessions of Pine. It is easy to do without realizing it, as I have found out myself. If you start a second session of Pine, the first session (usually in the background) holds a lock on the INBOX, so the second session cannot write to the INBOX and reports that it is read-only. I cannot say for sure that this is the cause of your situation, but it is such a common problem that it is worth checking for. I have found that the cleanest solution is to gracefully quit (if possible) or kill (if necessary) ALL of the Pine sessions and start over. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:51:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25071 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:51:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA26002 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:45:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA25998 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 13:45:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzr61-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 13:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Kill Files Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 16:57:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5e7bn2$hrf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Cuentas Eduardo wrote: > Reading the 2 previous postings I get kill files are just intended to > be used with USENET, what if I want to kill mail messages coming from > an specific e-mail Adress? Does anybody know if it is possible? Yes, it is certainly possible, but you have to use some other tool in addition to Pine. From your message header, I am not certain what kind of operating system you are using. If it is a version of Unix, you can use a tool such a procmail or filter, if they are installed on your system. To get information on mail filtering, if you have a WWW browser, browse my home page and follow the link to Nancy McGough's informational material. Several links in, she has a lot of valuable information on mail filtering (in English). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:21:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA18599 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:21:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA15340 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:15:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA15335 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:15:20 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA11828; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:14:58 -0800 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:14:57 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert Reply-To: Steve Hubert To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Larsen?= cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME type Application/Directory In-Reply-To: <1997Jan23.090805.11947@imada.ou.dk> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications X-Face: ABC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT It is documented in an Internet-Draft (draft-ietf-asid-mime-direct-03.txt). Unfortunately, some of the syntax has changed since the version that pine 3.95 is based on. There is also another draft which is probably relevant and which didn't exist when 3.95 came out. It is draft-ietf-asid-mime-vcard-01.txt. I'm guessing that we will change pine so that it generates vcard when forwarding address book entries, and so that it recognizes both that and the pine 3.95-style attachments. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Søren Larsen wrote: > It is possible to forward an entry from Pine's address book via email, in > which case it gets attached as an item of MIME type Application/Directory. > Is this type documented in an RFC? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Søren Larsen Email: larsen@imada.ou.dk > Dept. of Math. & Comp. Sci. URL: http://www.imada.ou.dk/~larsen/ > Odense University, Campusvej 55 phone: +45 6557 2312 > DK-5230 Odense M, Denmark fax: +45 6593 2691 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:40:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA05213 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:40:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA15898 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA15894 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:35:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzrt1-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 14:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel.Fournier@courrier.usherb.ca (Daniel Fournier) Subject: imapd security question Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 19:04:31 GMT Message-ID: <5f2136$cl6$4@news.si.usherb.ca> Hello, We have an AIX 4.1.5 UNIX system with Pine version 3.91. Some of our users would like to use PC Pine when accessing our system remotely. For this we would need to install imapd on our server. At first glance imapd seems secure enough in that it will disconnect after 3 consecutive bad login attempts. Are there anyother security implications involved in installing imapd? Please respond directly to me by e-mail. Thanks! Daniel.Fournier@courrier.usherb.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:59:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA25712 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:59:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA27731 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:55:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA27721 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:55:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzsEx-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 14:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Morrison Subject: compiling pine for irix 3.3.1 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:34:48 -0600 Message-ID: <3314BA88.7792@okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. Is is possible to compile pine on an old Iris 4d/20, running Irix 3.3.1? Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:03:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA26031 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:03:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA27799 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:58:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA27792 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 14:58:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA25768 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:58:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:58:44 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net Reply-To: Paul Kayak To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: INBOX B refuses to go away Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one get rid of a second inbox, "B", in one's Incoming Message Folders area? That is: After pressing Delete & confirming /Y on it, exiting PINE to then return, I will find the little b@!#!!~# to have come right back. Enable Incoming Folders +/- I have tried in most but not all executions (punning) of this. Thanks in advance. - Paul --- "To have doubted one's first principles is the mark of a civilized man." - Oliver Wendel Homes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:46:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA28096 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA19092 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:41:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA19088 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:41:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vztqj-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 16:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert de Bath Subject: Re: Sending takes too long Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:55:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Robert de Bath wrote: > > Main -> Setup -> Configuration -> enable-background-sending > > > > assuming you're not using QDOS++ > > What is QDOS++??? I just tried to set enable-background-sending in Sorry, I was being a little too obscure :-) QDOS is what MSDOS used to be called before MS bought it, it stood for 'Quick and Dirty Operating System' MSDOS++ is a possible alias for the more recent versions of dos or Windows95. QDOS++ is obviously a very Dirty operating system :-) > the Windows 95 version of Pine and it's not in the list of possible > variables. Does anyone know why this variable isn't in this > version? Because it will only work with OS's that can multi-task, contrary to Gates propaganda Windoze 95 does _not_ multi task. Eg. My slow old 486 can run a tape backup, pickup email, pickup news run a BJ10E printer through a postscript intepreter, as well as what ever I'm actually doing at that moment all at the same time ... I don't run Windows 95. -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:41:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28565 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:41:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA01909 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:36:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA01905 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:36:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vzuiC-00038ZC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 17:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Downloading Mail Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:31:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 25 Feb 1997, Edwin Roedder wrote: > It seems that I can only save my mail & attaachments to the server, rather > than on my local drive. I believe my server must be running unix/linux. Is > there any way to save my mail on my local drive? I also need to be able to > upload my mail as well. > > Any help would be _greatly_ appreciated! And additional and comprehensive technical information on your server and your local system would be _greatly_ appreciated. There is no single answer to your question. It all depends......... (Regrettably, habitues of this newsgroup are not mind readers or telepathic to know what your setup it.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:21:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA29311 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA21242 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:18:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from carbon.cary.mci.net (carbon.Cary.mci.net [204.70.140.28]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA21238 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:18:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by carbon.cary.mci.net (8.8.5/kaw-mci.net/feb95) id CAA21378; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:18:33 GMT Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:18:32 -0500 (EST) From: Dave Goodwin X-Sender: dgoodwin@carbon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Setting up a Reply-To: header Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NOTE: Please respond to Dave.Goodwin@mci.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Pine 3.95 on SunOS 4.1.4 and Pine 3.95q on Linux. I have been using Pine as my e-mail reader for 3-4 years now, but it wasn't until recently that I've ever dug into any of the cool customizable options. One thing I've recently started to do is check multiple POP and IMAP mailboxes, and filter my mailspool into folders with procmail. In order to be able to send/receive e-mail for all of my e-mail addresses from one central location, I need to be able to use a Reply-To: header. From reading the help screens for a few features, this is what I've done: default-composer-hdrs = To: Cc: Reply-To: Attchmnt: Subject: customized-hdrs = Reply-To: Now, when I compose a new message, a Reply-To header appears. When I send a message with that header filled in to myself, and read it when it returns, the Reply-To is included in the sent message, and when I select Reply, it even asks me if I'd like to use Reply-To instead of Reply. If I hit Yes... Well, it lies. It isn't actually using the Reply-To, it uses the original sender. What must I do? -Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA30113 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA04102 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:03:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [206.196.133.82]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA04098 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:03:25 -0800 Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (egate.mnet.uswest.com [151.116.23.138]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19918 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:03:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub.mnet.uswest.com (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id VAA11028 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:03:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from netmail4.uswc.uswest.com (netmail4.uswc.uswest.com [137.108.162.49]) by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (8.6.11/8.6.11) with ESMTP id WAA28988 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:05:41 -0600 Received: from pls3c2019 ([137.108.172.216]) by netmail4.uswc.uswest.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with SMTP id AAA14520 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 21:03:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:03:19 -0600 (CST) From: "David A. Henning" X-Sender: dahenni@pls3c2019 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Get Mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm using PINE 3.95 for Unix. Where do I find how to set-up Pine to automatically go and look for new mail. I have set "enable-mail-check-cue" and set "mail-check-interval" to 60, but Pine doesn't seem to check for new mail. The only way I have been able to get new mail is to "Quit" Pine and go back in again. Any help would be appreciated. Dave Henning dahenni@uswest.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:29:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA29929 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:29:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA23018 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:26:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from melvax.sonoma.edu (melvax.sonoma.edu [130.157.12.42]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA23014 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:26:30 -0800 Received: from SONOMA.EDU by SONOMA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #8366) id <01IFVUX9HFME9S4LYP@SONOMA.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:26:02 PST Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:26:01 -0800 (PST) From: madison@SONOMA.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, I have a problem with pine and hoped someone could help me out. When I write a letter and make a spelling errob, like right there, and then I need to correct it without retyping the whole of my document, pine has no mechanism to do this. I find this exceedingly lame. Must I write in WORD and then copy and paste it to the pine compose screen to send? Is there something I'm not understanding about the word processing capabilities of pine? Let me know. Yours, madison@sonoma.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:44:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA31122 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:44:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA04663 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:41:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA04659 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:41:33 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA13970; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:25:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:25:33 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "David A. Henning" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Get Mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII After reading the mail in a folder, press the TAB key and it should search the other folders for new mail. Make sure you mark 'auto-open-next-unread' in the Setup for this to work. If you want to see if there's new mail in the current folder (e.g, INBOX), press N until you're at the last mailing, then press N once more...if there's new mail, it'll show up. Greg batchman@liberty.com On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, David A. Henning wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using PINE 3.95 for Unix. Where do I find how to set-up Pine to > automatically go and look for new mail. I have set "enable-mail-check-cue" and > set "mail-check-interval" to 60, but Pine doesn't seem to check for new mail. > The only way I have been able to get new mail is to "Quit" Pine and go back in > again. > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Dave Henning > dahenni@uswest.com > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:04:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA31920 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:03:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA05942 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:01:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA05935 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:01:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12359 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:30:08 +0530 (IST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:30:07 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:19:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA32442 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:19:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA06904 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA06900 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:16:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w001i-00038bC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 23:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullins@convex.com (Don Mullins) Subject: Mailing from the command line Date: 26 Feb 1997 17:44:00 -0600 Message-ID: <5f2hs0$7cs@anaconda.rsn.hp.com> Currently, I use elm as my mailer, but I am moving over to pine. I use elm from the command line to send/reply/forward mail under trn. Here are the trn commands: -EMAILPOSTER="elm -i %h -s 'Re: %'s' %t" -EFORWARDPOSTER="elm -i %h -s '%'[subject]' %q" The reason for this is so elm will copy the outgoing mail to my sent folder. How can I do the same thing with pine? Thanks! Don -- Don Mullins Internet: mullins@rsn.hp.com Hewlett-Packard Company, Convex Division Phone: (972) 497-4490 Richardson, Texas, USA Fax: (972) 497-4500 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:54:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA00187 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:54:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA25834 for pine-info-out; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:51:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA25830 for ; Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:51:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w00ba-00038cC; Wed, 26 Feb 97 23:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: reply to all except.... Date: 27 Feb 1997 06:26:22 GMT Message-ID: References: <5evp93$1dm@news.istar.ca> On 25 Feb 1997 22:32:03 GMT, iSTAR internet inc. wrote: > I have pine automatically including everyone >when I reply. But there's a certain email address >that I don't want it to reply to. Solutions? Best one I can come up with is to cursor up to the line where the "certain" email address lies, and delete it, (^K works for me). That what you wanted? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi "Uncle Cosmo ... why do they call this a word processor?" "It's simple, Skyler ... you've seen what food processors do to food, right?" -- MacNelley, "Shoe" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:09:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA00639 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:09:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA07569 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:06:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA07565 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:06:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w00oI-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 00:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert de Bath Subject: Re: Soccer Mad Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:17:36 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Milton Escobar wrote: > Anybody is welcome to join this group. > Soccer is the world game. > So let me know what do you want to know about the following League. > I watch the Italian League, Spanish League, and English League. > > At the moment I think that the Spanish League is the best. > What do you think? What I think about you is unprintable! > ___________________________________________________________________________ > I hope to hear from you very soon. > > Your Soccer mad student -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:34:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA32438 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA26311 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:32:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA26301 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:31:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w01DQ-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 00:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lloyd Wood Subject: Re: Distribution of Imap4 servers Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:43:00 +0000 Message-ID: <33147624.7F1E@surrey.ac.uk> References: <330C74DC.2FA5@radlinx.rad.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David L Miller wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Feb 1997, Boaz Kahana wrote: > > > Ihave to convice the marketing department on the World usage of > > Imap4 in order to use it in a new email client. > >  > > Is there any survay on world distribution of IMAP4 servers? > > I already know about > > http://www.imap.org/products/servers.html > > But it does not say anything about numbers .... > > I don't have any real numbers on the number of servers out there, but > I do have a little information about one client, Pine. We have > reports from about 200,000 users at 2000 sites who access their INBOX > on an IMAP server. Complaining about what, exactly? L. is wondering if Pine plays as fast and loose with IMAP as it does with the way it combines the news and email RFCs. > We also have reason to believe that those numbers > are considerably under-reported. Does that help any? > > -- > David L. Miller | Whatever is begun in anger ends in > Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | shame. -- Benjamin Franklin > Box 354841, University of Washington | > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | > Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:24:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA00881 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA08489 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:22:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA08485 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:22:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w020m-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 01:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: msaxer@WOLFENET.COM (Martin Saxer) Subject: Addressbook: PC-Pine reading unix addressbook possible? Date: 27 Feb 1997 01:39:03 GMT Message-ID: <5f2ojn$fsj@ratty.wolfe.net> Here's what I'm trying to do. I've currently got Pine 3.95 running on my unix shell account. I dial-in and use PC-Pine and Pine/os2 from two different locations. Ideally I'd like to have one central addressbook so that all my changes would be activated instantly. The obvious choice for this is my unix addressbook since it is always accessible. Now my problem...I was completely unable to get PC-Pine to find my addressbook, even when following the same format in the setup menu that I use to have PC-Pine access my unix mail folders (which works great!). So..my questions to the Pine gurus here are: 1) Is the above possible? 2) If so, what does a sample line look like? thanks, martin -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Martin Saxer msaxer@wolfenet.com 206.323.8645 (h) 206.621.1218 (w) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 03:18:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02762 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 03:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA28402 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 03:14:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA28398 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 03:14:36 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:11:27 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA03531; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:14:03 GMT Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:14:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Paul Kayak cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Tagging and applying? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" After giving the Select (;) command try peering at the command menu at the bottom of the screen. As with other commands this changes to reflect the commands currently available to you. A select All N Number T Text ^C Cancel C [select Cur] D Date S Status So to "Select all messages" the "A select All" option looks promising ;-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Paul Kayak wrote: > > What should I reply, when PINE asks me for Select criteria? (Which will be > after I type <;> . > > Thanks in advance. > > > On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > On 26 Feb 1997, Tony Gonzalez wrote: > > > Anyone know how I can tag all the files I want to save to the "saved" > > > folder? > > > > First go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) > > and make sure that the "enable-aggregate-command'set" option is checked. > > Whilst there, read its built-in help (by typing ?) which explains what > > this setting does, and the new commands it gives you. > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:51:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA03787 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA11892 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:47:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA11887 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:47:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w068Y-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 05:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Soccer Mad Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:42:08 +930 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Milton Escobar wrote: > At the moment I think that the Spanish League is the best. > What do you think? I fail to see what this has to do with Pine... --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:52:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA03907 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:52:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA00451 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:47:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA00447 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:47:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w068h-00038cC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 05:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Address Tip Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:40:30 +930 Message-ID: References: <5evof0$k5j@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5evof0$k5j@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> On 25 Feb 1997, Gord F Beacock wrote: > I found out what the nickname is used for. Instead of using > Ctrl+T to get to the address book and selecting the address, it is easier > to type in the nickname and the program converts it to the address > automaticaly. I went back and added their first name in the nickname > slot for everybody. Now it works even better. Actually, this is in the online Help (put the cursor on the To: line, and press ^G) Online help is such a wonderful thing :-) --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:44:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA04421 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA12539 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:41:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA12535 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:41:12 -0800 Received: by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA26814 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:41:09 -0500 Received: by jandr.com (8.6.10/200.8.1.3) id JAA29388; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:16:11 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 09:16:11 -0500 (EST) From: Joe DiBenedetto To: madison@SONOMA.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi madison, If you look at the bottom of your screen while composing, you will notice many commands. See the "^G"? It will take you to a help screen, of which the upper right-hand corner is devoted to "EDITING KEYS". If you look around the remainder of the screen, you will see other sections such as "CURSOR MOTION" and "SCREEN/COMPOSITION". Everything you need to accomplish composing your message with a minimum of re-typing is there, even a spell- checker! Have fun, Joe:D On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 madison@SONOMA.EDU wrote: > Greetings, > I have a problem with pine and hoped someone could help me out. When I > write a letter and make a spelling errob, like right there, and then I > need to correct it without retyping the whole of my document, pine has no > mechanism to do this. I find this exceedingly lame. Must I write in WORD > and then copy and paste it to the pine compose screen to send? Is there > something I'm not understanding about the word processing capabilities of > pine? > Let me know. > Yours, > madison@sonoma.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:03:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA04647 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA12813 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:00:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA12809 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:00:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA05678; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:00:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:00:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Scrolling Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have Pine 3.95 on Sun/Solaris 2.5. How do I scroll one line at a time when I reach the bottom of the screen? Presently, I use "down-arrow" key, and when I get to the bottom of the first screen, the screen jumps to the next screen. I want to scroll line by line, how do I do that? It's probably under my nose, but... Jim A. jima@aip.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:36:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03764 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA01901 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA01897 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:32:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w07lB-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 07:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Animal Subject: Spell check works with Pine, but not with Pico. Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 01:58:20 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using Pine 3.95 and Pico 2.9 with mixed results when spell checking. When spell checking with Pine ispell works fine, but scrolls screen with ispell command line options in Pico. Setting $SPELL (setenv SPELL 'ispell -l') gives me partial functionality (offering only edit replacement option for mispellings). ================================================================== = DON'T_SPAM.animal@mclv.net - http://mclv.net/animal/ = ================================================================== = There are those who would have us believe that if we surrender = = enough of our civil rights that crime could be drastically = = reduced. Even if this ridiculous assumption were true the loss = = of personal freedom is _not_ an acceptable trade-off. = ================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:46:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA04944 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:46:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13482 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:43:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13478 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:42:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w07vf-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 07:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Help Me Please Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:26:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Luke Grant wrote: > Yesterday I sent an E-mail to find out how to export from pine and the > response I got was extremely helpful but I now have another problem. > How do I use FTP ? > If anyone knows of an internet site of has any information I would be > extremely greatful. First, ftp has nothing to do with Pine and therefore with this newsgroup. However, you appear to be on a Un*x-type system, so at the shell prompt enter: man ftp If you have access to it, the NcFTP front-end for ftp is much, much nicer than vanilla ftp. Second, a friendly suggestion. Any time you post on *any* newsgroup requesting assistance, try picking a more informative Subject: line than just "help me." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:06:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21493 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:06:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA02456 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:03:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA02452 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:02:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w08EA-00038cC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 07:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James B. Patton" Subject: How do you speed up Pine? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:41:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3315AB40.68751FB5@eece.maine.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Like many, I have experienced message, folder, addressbook etc. creep. I have some large folders and files. Can someone give me an overall view of how Pine works that will help me determine how I can best trim my "stuff" to speed up Pine? In particular, I've noticed increasingly long delays when I - shut down Pine - a message is incoming. This one is particularly annoying. If I'm working (composing) I'm dead in the water for a minute or two until the new message is appropriately received. These may or may not be pine problems. For example, I do mount my mail directory from another machine etc, so the problems might be elsewhere. Nevertheless, an overview of what pine does when it starts up, shuts down, gets a message etc. might help many people figure out the best way to use it. Thanks. Jim Patton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:32:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA06872 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:32:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA14463 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:28:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from getafix.hrwallingford.co.uk (getafix.hrwallingford.co.uk [193.82.160.102]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA14459 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 08:28:23 -0800 Received: from hrwallingford.co.uk (stratus [192.9.200.15]) by getafix.hrwallingford.co.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA02347 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:30:04 GMT Received: from loughor by hrwallingford.co.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27275; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:29:42 +0000 Message-Id: <3315B6F7.2C2D@ee.surrey.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:31:51 +0000 From: J W X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bouncing! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I set up Pine so that it automatically re-directs incoming emails to another email address? Is this possible? Jason (Please reply to my address) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:35:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA27502 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:35:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA17458 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:28:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA17454 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:28:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0AYs-00038cC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 10:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ye Hong Subject: Re: Create "In-Mail" Archive? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 12:42:36 -0500 Message-ID: <3315C78C.41C6@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rpcc@cornell.edu wrote: > > Friends, > > I'm thrilled with Pine 3.91's capacity to store all sent-mail in a folder > archive (broken up by month). > > What I'd like to do now is persuade Pine to archive a _copy_ of all > IN-MAIL, too... > > I'd like to be able to refer to a stack of mail I deleted months > earlier--neatly stored and organized somewhere. Any ingenious tips? I've > examined the literature and found no intuitive method. > > Thanks! > > Please e-mail rpcc@cornell.edu > I can't access Usenet regularly, I'm afraid. :) You may go to SETUP and change the configuration. Just add the folder name, such as: read-message-folder = In-Mail Then after you read the new mail from INBOX folder, it can go to In-Mail folder if you want. -- Ye From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:08:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14651 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:08:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA10091 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:03:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA10087 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:03:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Cvf-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 12:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: imapd security question Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 19:39:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5f2136$cl6$4@news.si.usherb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5f2136$cl6$4@news.si.usherb.ca> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Daniel Fournier wrote: > We have an AIX 4.1.5 UNIX system with Pine version 3.91. Some of our > users would like to use PC Pine when accessing our system remotely. > For this we would need to install imapd on our server. At first glance imapd > seems secure enough in that it will disconnect after 3 consecutive bad login > attempts. Are there anyother security implications involved in installing > imapd? The version of imapd distributed with Pine 3.91 is quite old. There are known bugs in that version. You should use the latest imapd: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z -- Mark -- Unsolicited commercial email is NOT welcome at this email address. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:03:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA15985 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA22752 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:58:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA22748 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:58:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0DqF-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 13:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply Date: 25 Feb 1997 21:19:17 GMT Message-ID: <5evl0l$eqq@due.unit.no> References: <856797782.145845@gw.va.wagner.com> In article <856797782.145845@gw.va.wagner.com>, Jeff Douglass wrote: > >As a followup to this is there a way to do this operation after >message composition has begun? For instance, say I am already >creating a message and then I decide I want to include several >other messages in the body of this new composition. Any ideas? Well, to get it formatted as a multireply: 1) Postpone (^O) 2) Select the messages you want 3) Apply/Reply (AR) 4) Postpone 5) Go to postponed-msgs folder 6) Save combined message to a file 7) Continue composing original message, read in the others from file. Easier solutions are available if you don't care about quote characters. (Essentially, skip 3-5.) You can also use ^R^W to read a message (by number) from the current folder. If you don't remember the number you have to postpone anyhow. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:50:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17193 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA12596 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:43:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA12592 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:43:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0EVL-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 14:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david Subject: Re: E-mail Sucks!! Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:15:22 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I don't know what's wrong with my e-mail but I know for a fact > that people are writing me and I am not recieving their messages. At > first I thought it was definately disk space but I cleared out a bunch of > messages but it didn't seem to help!!!!!! Please Help Me!! Could you be a little more vague about what your problem is? Get a clue... --David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:02:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA15631 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:02:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA24082 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:58:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA24078 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:58:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Eid-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 14:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu (Bill Mahoney) Subject: feature-list documentation Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:44:14 GMT Message-ID: <5f4h5e$fo3$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> Does anyone know where I can find documentation for the various options under the feature-list. I've looked thru the Setup/Config documentation, but not all features are documented. Thanks Bill Mahoney bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:54:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA18456 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:54:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA15745 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:51:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sparkie.gnofn.org (sparkie.gnofn.org [206.27.168.35]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA15732 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:51:04 -0800 Received: from sparkie.gnofn.org (sparkie.gnofn.org [206.27.168.35]) by sparkie.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id SAA18945 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:51:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:51:00 -0600 (CST) From: CAROL-ANN P LINDHOLM To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Folder:(CLOSED) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello again! I understand that msg from places like Norway and Finland can cause problems like I had. Is there a way to overcome this from happening again? Thanks. Carol-Ann Puikko Lindholm On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, CAROL-ANN P LINDHOLM wrote: > I can't get into my msgs and the problem started Ja. 28 when I tried to > understand something at the end of a new msg. When I tried to go to the > next new msg I was unable to get it. I quit and tried to go into the > system fresh and that's when I got this Folder:(CLOSED) notice. Also. the > following comes on the screen: (unable to find newline at 18934 in > 64bytes, text: > Thanks. Carol Lindholm;cpl02@gnofn.org > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:08:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA20041 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16065 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:04:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16061 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:04:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Gg7-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 17:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine 3.95 and qmail Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:16:46 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Feb 1997, Jim Littlefield wrote: > >sendsig: can't grow stack, pid xxxxx, proc pine > >Illegal instruction > > > >This does _not_ affect incoming mail, which is working properly. Also, > >Pine worked flawlessly when I was running sendmail thru v8.8.5 The above message is not actually coming from Pine. Normally, Pine invokes "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" and interactively negotiates sending the mail via an SMTP exchange. This allows Pine to negotiate ESMTP options, such as 8BITMIME. It would appear that Qmail's sendmail emulator is unable to handle the exchange with Pine and is crashing with a stack overflow. > > Read the FAQ which came with Qmail: > > 6.2. How do I stop pine from crashing? When I ask any version of pine > past 3.91 to send mail, it crashes. > > Answer: Put > > sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi -t > > into /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. (This will work with sendmail too.) This changes Pine's behavior to simply pass the message to the specified command on stdin. You lose all ESMTP capabilities in this mode... > Beware that pine is neither secure nor reliable. Does the Qmail FAQ or other documentation have any elaboration or substantiation of this claim? -- David L. Miller | Not everything that can be counted Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | counts; and not everything counts Box 354841, University of Washington | that can be counted. -- A. 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Einstein Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:32:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA20728 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA28728 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:29:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA28724 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:29:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0I0p-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 18:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ghost@WOLFENET.COM (Jason Allor) Subject: questions about pine Date: 27 Feb 1997 21:10:55 GMT Message-ID: <5f4t8v$k9e@ratty.wolfe.net> Hi. I'm sorta new to pine and I have a few questions. I want to run pine from a script file with no intervention from me. It needs to do everything automatically. What I want to do is be able to set the subject and a large blind carbon copy list and send out the mail, but it can't stop to ask me anything. it's all got to be set up to run on its own. I've looked through all the pine information I could find, but nothing mentioned this. If I try to do a pine someuser@someaddress.com < somefile it brings up pine, fills in the send to field with someuser@someaddress.com, fills in the message with somefile, but then it makes me hit CTRL-X to tell it to save and send. I need this to run automatically without my intervention. thanks, jason -- The Edie Brickell Web Page: http://www.crl.com/~phantom/edie.html The Edie Brickell and the Slip Mailing List Web Page: http://www.wolfenet.com/~ghost/EDIE/edie.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:56:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA20959 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:56:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA17994 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:49:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA17990 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:49:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0INd-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 18:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: html attachments Date: 28 Feb 1997 00:50:17 GMT Message-ID: <5f5a49$mhm@due.unit.no> References: In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: >On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: >> On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, David L Miller wrote: >> > text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal >> >> Yes, but lynx will go into a horrible loop and crash and burn with >> that in a .mailcap file. > > Strange. I have the above statement (or something very much like it >-- going from memory here) in my .mailcap, and it works just dandy: What I read in news.software.readers was that this was a bug in old versions of Lynx, which has since been fixed. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:58:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA16106 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:58:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA29058 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:51:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kirkwood.hoosier.net (kirkwood.hoosier.net [206.106.64.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA29054 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:51:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (lev@localhost) by kirkwood.hoosier.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA09785 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:50:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:50:59 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Kayak X-Sender: lev@kirkwood.hoosier.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: INBOX B refuses to go away' Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I get rid of a second inbox, "B", which I made in my Incoming Message Folders area? That is: After pressing Delete & confirming /Y on it, exiting PINE to then return, I will find the little b@!#!!~# to have reappeared. Enable Incoming Folders +/- I have tried in most but not all executions (punning) of this. Thanks in advance. - Paul --- "To have doubted one's first principles is the mark of a civilized man." - Oliver Wendel Homes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:26:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA20292 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:26:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA29478 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:19:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA29474 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:19:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0IpH-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 19:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phillip liggins Subject: PLEASE HELP US VIEW IT NOW!!!! Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:48:34 -0600 Message-ID: References: <5enk5b$ce3@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5enk5b$ce3@due.unit.no> Orjan Can you tell me how to view images on pine? Please pass on step by step instructions simple enough for a 6yr old to follow if you can. I have a program called JPEG view on my hard drive, but I don't know how to get the images out of pine and on to my hard drive. Help!?!* Thanks Phil> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:09:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA21200 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA00293 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:05:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA00287 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:05:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (gufic@localhost) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23220 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:36:12 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:36:12 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Mr. J. P. Choksi" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: QUERY REGARDING ATTACHMENT TO E-MAIL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII n Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Mr. J. P. Choksi wrote: > Dear Sir, > > We are finding it difficult to attach files from either WORD STAR or > MICROSOFT WORD Softwares. > > I could not obtain much help from the Help command. > > I would appreciate if you could offer clarifications for the same. > > Thanking You, > > Dr.H.S.Parikh > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:32:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA06149 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20301 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:29:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA20295 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:29:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0KrQ-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Patrick Chan" Subject: Default Bcc?? Date: 26 Feb 1997 15:53:50 GMT Message-ID: <01bc23fd$411aba60$5208c580@Patrick> Is it possible to make a default Bcc in pine, or in sendmail, such that, when I send an email, I can keep a copy in my other account? Thanks for the help! :) Patrick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:38:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21812 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:38:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20399 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA20395 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Ktt-00038cC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: (3.95 on UNIX (AIX) - want to stop asking to delete sent-mail-mon Date: 27 Feb 1997 19:03:59 GMT Message-ID: <5f4lqv$108u@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> How can I stop Pine 3.95 from asking me everytime it starts up whether I want to delete sent-mail-jan (or dec, etc)? If I want to fill up my disks that's my business, so how do I tell Pine? I can't find any setup options which seem relevant. Thanks, -- Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:39:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21775 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:39:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA01671 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA01664 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Ku3-00038gC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: TC Hazzard Subject: PC-Pine with NT 4.0 Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:46:12 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: Anyone running the 32-bit version of PC-Pine on NT 4.0? I am looking for the ability to run Pine at home instead of always telneting into remote mail servers. And I do not want to lose the ability to maintain the ability to get into my mail from the road via telnet. I welcome your words of wisdom. Thanks. Enjoy ~ TC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:40:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA21320 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA01662 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA01652 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Ktu-00038eC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: little@ragnarok.hks.com (Jim Littlefield) Subject: Re: pine 3.95 and qmail Date: 27 Feb 1997 18:38:13 GMT Message-ID: References: On 27 Feb 97 11:05:02 EST, Justin M. Streiner wrote: >I'm presently in the process of replacing this system's MTA with qmail. >Qmail's built and installed - seems to be working properly. However pine >will not peacefully coexist with qmail. Other MUAs or front-ends on this >system work fine, however pine will exit with the following error when >attempting to send mail: > >sendsig: can't grow stack, pid xxxxx, proc pine >Illegal instruction > >This does _not_ affect incoming mail, which is working properly. Also, >Pine worked flawlessly when I was running sendmail thru v8.8.5 Read the FAQ which came with Qmail: 6.2. How do I stop pine from crashing? When I ask any version of pine past 3.91 to send mail, it crashes. Answer: Put sendmail-path=/usr/lib/sendmail -oem -oi -t into /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. (This will work with sendmail too.) Beware that pine is neither secure nor reliable. -- Jim Littlefield "I have a microwave fireplace in my house...The other night I laid down in front of the fire for the evening in two minutes." - Steven Wright From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:40:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA23081 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:40:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20405 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA20401 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Ku0-00038fC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be (Benjamin Gonay) Subject: Re: Pine Editor <===*A Question No One Could Answer Date: 26 Feb 1997 09:07:14 GMT Message-ID: <5f0ug2$bu9@sugar.h.belgacom.be> References: How Far Is Down !!! (s_akbari@ECE.Concordia.CA) wrote: : Hi : I am involved in an association work.We have about 100 members with 100 : e-mail addresses and frequently we inform our members with the activities. : We use pine editor and we have created a distribution list which all the : e-mail addresses of the members are in it.So every time we send the : e-mail to Distribution list. : The disadvantage of this method is that all the e-mail addresses included : in the distribution list are shown in the header of the e-mail that every : recipient receives.And this is annoying when you have 4 pages of ONLY : e-mail addresses. : Is there any trick to fix this problem so the e-mail addresses are hidden ?? : If Not, do you know of any other method or program for doing so ? ( in Unix) I suggest you you install a mailing list ! like majordomo software.... Check on any good unix site.... -- Cybersalutations ;-) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ Email : Benjamin.Gonay@goliath.is.belgacom.be _/ _/ From Brussels, Belgium , capital of Europe... _/ _/ linux forever...Linux Forever...Linux FOREVER... LINUX FOREVER !!!!! _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:42:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA07336 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:41:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA01650 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA01644 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:34:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Ktt-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rpcc@cornell.edu (rpcc@cornell.edu) Subject: Re: Create "In-Mail" Archive? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:20:30 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3315C78C.41C6@audry.gsfc.nasa.gov> Dear Ye and all, Is there a fix that maintains a full read-messages archive _and_ a regular in-box (with read _and_ new mail)? I'd rather not toggle between a read-messages folder and a new-messages folder to see my entire in-box... > > What I'd like to do now is persuade Pine to archive a _copy_ of all > > IN-MAIL, too... > You may go to SETUP and change the configuration. Just add the folder > name, such as: > > read-message-folder = In-Mail > > Then after you read the new mail from INBOX folder, it can go to In-Mail > folder if you want. > > -- Ye From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:57:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA09362 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:57:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20694 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:54:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA20686 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:54:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0LEX-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 21:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxfjn@morgana (Frankie J. Nichols) Subject: Re: cut&paste in X doesn't work for pine 3.9.5! Date: 27 Feb 1997 21:20:44 GMT Message-ID: <5f4trc$rh3@news.alaska.edu> References: <5f1gr7$ee6@camel2.mindspring.com> Xterm doesn't support cut and paste in any applications so it wouldn't matter what version of pine you are running : having the incredibly annoying problem of not being able to cut and paste : from pine 3.9.5 when it runs inside an xterm. I am using Debian Linux, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:26:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04945 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:26:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA02438 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:24:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA02434 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:24:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Lir-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: cut&paste in X doesn't work for pine 3.9.5! Date: 28 Feb 1997 01:06:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5f1gr7$ee6@camel2.mindspring.com> <5f4trc$rh3@news.alaska.edu> fxfjn@morgana (Frankie J. Nichols) writes: > Xterm doesn't support cut and paste in any applications so it wouldn't > matter what version of pine you are running > > : having the incredibly annoying problem of not being able to cut and paste > : from pine 3.9.5 when it runs inside an xterm. I am using Debian Linux, That turns out not to be the case. Xterm does support cut and paste quite nicely, thank you (or did a little genie instantly retype the list of 243 email addresses I just pasted from an xterm window into a Pine message?). Two things of which you need to be aware for cut and paste with Pine in xterms: make sure the "enable mouse in xterm" option is checked in Pine's Main/Setup/Config; and (except for simple cursor placement) hold down the shift key while using the mouse in Pine. Why the Pine designers decided that their program needed shift-drag or shift-click instead of the more conventional usage, I don't know, but that's the way it is. Having become used to the shift oddity, I use cut and paste in Pine a fair bit. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:03:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA23268 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA21459 for pine-info-out; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:59:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA21455 for ; Thu, 27 Feb 1997 22:59:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0MEA-00038bC; Thu, 27 Feb 97 22:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: html attachments Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:38:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, David L Miller wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Cyber-Babushka wrote: > > > [...] > > Configure an appropriate viewer for text/html in your .mailcap file, > > e.g. > > text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal > > > > Using the above, Pine will invoke Lynx to view the HTML. > > Yes, but lynx will go into a horrible loop and crash and burn with > that in a .mailcap file. > > Instead you should put that in a mailcap like file that lynx will > never touch. Mine is called .pinemailcap . [...] Strange. I have the above statement (or something very much like it -- going from memory here) in my .mailcap, and it works just dandy: no crashing, no burning, by either Lynx (v2.6) or Pine (v3.94) under SunOS 4.1.4. It has worked without a hitch every time I get an email with both text/plain and text/html Mime parts. Perhaps there is something in your configuration that is unhappy. The one things I don't like is a matter of operating preference. If I get such an email, Pine tells me that the two parts are present and that I have to go into View to see either of them. So far I ahve not found a way -- if there even is one -- to make Pine select one of them automatically and show it to me without further intervention. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:33:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA24522 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:32:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA22639 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:29:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA22635 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:29:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Ndy-00038bC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 00:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:49:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: On 24 Feb 1997, Bill Blank wrote: > subscribe It doesn't work that way. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:02:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA23376 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:02:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04294 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:00:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from upsmot02.msn.com (upsmot02.msn.com [204.95.110.79]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA04290 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:00:31 -0800 Received: from upmajb02.msn.com (upmajb02.msn.com [204.95.110.74]) by upsmot02.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id AAA11676 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 00:57:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 97 08:57:57 UT From: "ALI BAIG" Message-Id: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu begin 600 README~1.TXT M1G)O;3H@"4%,22!"04E'#0I396YT.B )5V5D;F5S9&%Y+"!&96)R=6%R>2 R M-BP@,3DY-R R.C(R(%!-#0I4;SH@"4%,22!"04E'#0I3=6)J96-T.B )4F5A M9#H@;65S Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:20:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA25231 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:20:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04512 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:18:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04508; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:18:31 -0800 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA22119; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:18:24 -0600 (CST) Received: from irv-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com(204.32.161.81) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id sma022109; Fri Feb 28 03:17:53 1997 Message-ID: <3316A35C.7CD2@choicemall.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:20:28 -0800 From: Tov Reply-To: chris@choicemall.com X-Sender: Tov (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ellis@nova.gmi.edu, "3gogkh$nvm"@nntp.crl.com, owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: UNIX X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------237F477134F427" ------------237F477134F427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ??? trying to settle a bet, please respond if you can help. thank you, Chris ------------237F477134F427 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ???  trying to settle a bet, please respond if you can help.     thank you,  Chris 
------------237F477134F427-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:05:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA12868 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:05:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA24437 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:03:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hamlin.cc.boun.edu.tr (hamlin.cc.boun.edu.tr [193.140.192.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA24433 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 03:02:44 -0800 Received: by hamlin.cc.boun.edu.tr (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30066; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:57:46 +0300 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:57:46 +0300 (MEST) From: Fatos Kopliku X-Sender: koplikuf@hamlin.cc.boun.edu.tr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: hi! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII GREETINGS TO ALL THE PINE USERS ! MY NAME IS FATOS,I'M STUDENT IN BOSPHORUS UNIVERSITY,GENETICS DEPARTMENT. I'D LIKE TO COMMUNICATE WITH PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD. I'M 19 YEARS OLD.MY PREFERRED FOOTBALL TEAM IS BRAZIL,MY PREFERRED BAND NIRVANA. I'M LOOKING FORWARDS TO HEARING FROM YOU! FRIENDLY FATOS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:18:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA27094 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:18:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA06503 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:14:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA06499 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:14:54 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:14:45 +0800 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:14:44 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: "Mr. J. P. Choksi" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: QUERY REGARDING ATTACHMENT TO E-MAIL In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Mr. J. P. Choksi wrote: > n Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Mr. J. P. Choksi wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > > We are finding it difficult to attach files from either WORD STAR or > > MICROSOFT WORD Softwares. > > > > I could not obtain much help from the Help command. > > > > I would appreciate if you could offer clarifications for the same. If you could be more specific about your problem....someone on this list may be able to help. --- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:38:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA26841 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:38:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA25595 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:33:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA25591 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:33:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:24:40 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id MAA16825; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:27:09 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:27:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: s_akbari@ECE.Concordia.CA cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Editor <===*A Question No One Could Answer In-Reply-To: <5f0ug2$bu9@sugar.h.belgacom.be> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 26 Feb 1997, Benjamin Gonay wrote: > How Far Is Down !!! (s_akbari@ECE.Concordia.CA) wrote: > The disadvantage of this method is that all the e-mail addresses included > in the distribution list are shown in the header of the e-mail that every > recipient receives.And this is annoying when you have 4 pages of ONLY > e-mail addresses. > > Is there any trick to fix this problem so the e-mail addresses are hidden ?? > If Not, do you know of any other method or program for doing so ? ( in Unix) > Sute: use the "Lcc:" field rather than the "To:" field for the e-mail addresses: 1. Start composing your message. 2. Put cursor on a header line and type ^R (Rich Headers) 3. Type the nickname of the distribution list into the "Lcc:" field (Whilst there, read the built-in help about the "Lcc:" field.) 4. Continue with Subject and Message Text as usual. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:50:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA09040 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA25716 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:45:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA25712 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 04:45:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA20014 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:14:16 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:14:15 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: info Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:40:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA27518 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:40:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA07414 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:35:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA07410 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:35:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0SSP-00038bC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 05:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott Carpenter Subject: Ready-to-go Pine for Solaris 2.5 x86 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 18:00:17 -0600 Message-ID: <3314CE91.4AB2@triumphant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if there is a ready to go package of Pine for Solaris 2.5 x86 using Sun's C compiler that doesn't need hacking to get it working? Thanks for any input. If not, is hacking the gnu cc solaris build easier than the "build sol" or installing the gnu C compiler? -- Scott Carpenter,Chief Computer Scientist Triumphant Enterprises Inc. The Transaction Specialists From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:09:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02719 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:09:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA26592 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:05:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA26588 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:05:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24709 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:34:15 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:34:15 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Killing Messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Is it possible to kill a message once I have sent it? Thanks, Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:11:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA27006 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:11:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA26629 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:07:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gmi.edu (nova.gmi.edu [192.138.137.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA26625; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:07:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by gmi.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA04738; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:07:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:07:44 -0500 (EST) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" X-Sender: ellis@nova To: Tov cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, 3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com, owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX In-Reply-To: <3316A35C.7CD2@choicemall.com> Message-ID: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute - Flint MI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY=----------237F477134F427 Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------------237F477134F427 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Tov wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 01:20:28 -0800 > From: Tov > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ellis@nova.gmi.edu, > 3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com, owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: UNIX > > Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ??? trying to settle a bet, > please respond if you can help. thank you, Chris Although all caps usually indicates an acronym, as near as I have been able to tell in 12 years of working with UNIX is that this is an exception. I have frequently heard that it is a pun on Multics, a very overweight computer operating system involving a number of companies in the late 1960's, at a time when time-sharing was generally unavailable. AT&T was one of the companies, although the lead company was GE, which later sold its computer division to Honeywell (part of the "thundering HURD"?). A handful of computer scientists at AT&T wanted to keep the intimate time-sharing environment they had developed for Multics, and finagled, filched and whatever else was necessary to get a DEC PDP-7 to develop it on. In a 1984 article in the AT&T Bell Labs Technical Journal special issue on The UNIX System, Dennis Ritchie, one of those men, authoritatively states: "Brian Kernighan suggested the name 'UNIX,' in a somewhat treacherous pun on 'Multics'...." (p. 1580). > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / ------------237F477134F427 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=us-ascii Content-ID: Content-Description:
Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ???  trying to settle a bet, please respond if you can help.     thank you,  Chris 
------------237F477134F427-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:20:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA22703 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:20:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA26734 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:15:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA26724 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:15:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0T1g-00038eC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 06:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mieszko Mularczyk Subject: HELP: NEWSGROUPS READING FROM PINE 3.9 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:21:27 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anuone know how to save ALL messages from one newsgroup at a time? Pressing s next to every messages and confirming saving makes me bored. I use Pine 3.91 under Linux. Please help! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:20:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA11969 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:20:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA07874 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:15:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA07870 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:15:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0T3Y-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 06:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: I S Speirs Subject: Re: HELP: NEWSGROUPS READING FROM PINE 3.9 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 08:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The question is: how do you delete multiple items in pine? The correct answer should be: Select(;) and Apply (A). Select allows you to select all or some items. Apply allows you to delete, save, etc these items. I use PINE 3.95 and have these commands available from my Index. Check yours and good luck! On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Mieszko Mularczyk wrote: > Does anuone know how to save ALL messages from one newsgroup at a time? > Pressing s next to every messages and confirming saving makes me bored. > I use Pine 3.91 under Linux. > > Please help! > > Ian Scott Speirs Man imagines that it is death he fears; ispeirs@polaris.umuc.edu but what he fears is the unforeseen. cirrusly@juno.com -Saint-Exupery http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/4535/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:44:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA27863 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA27121 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:40:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA27117 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:40:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0TQH-00038bC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 06:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Gonzalez Subject: cmsg cancel <5f0prk$kcv@nexp.crl.com> Control: cancel <5f0prk$kcv@nexp.crl.com> Date: 26 Feb 1997 18:50:08 GMT Message-ID: <5f20l0$a5r@nexp.crl.com> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.3 unoff BETA release 970222] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:01:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA25413 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:01:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA08444 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:57:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA08439 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 06:57:27 -0800 Received: from grizzly.patriotnet.com (grizzly.patriotnet.com [206.151.9.248]) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA29152; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:41:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:59:52 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" X-Sender: scoile@grizzly.patriotnet.com To: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Killing Messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Dinesh R. Thakkar wrote: >Is it possible to kill a message once I have sent it? No. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:06:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02236 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA27498 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:02:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27459 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:00:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (drt@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA09420 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:29:25 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:29:24 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: "Dinesh R. Thakkar" To: Pine List Subject: Merging Messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, How can I mix and merges 2 or more message into 1? Thanks in advance. Dinesh. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:58:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA25737 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:58:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA09400 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:50:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA09393 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:50:51 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:46:05 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA08169; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:48:38 GMT Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:48:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: phillip liggins cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP US VIEW IT NOW!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" [Sigh. Mike goes to the cupboard and gets out his mind-reading equipment.] The first thing is to try and guess whether you are using the "main" version of Pine on a UNIX system, or PC-Pine on an IBM PCompatible... As you mention the program called "JPEGview" and I *happen* to know that there is an image-viewing program of this name for the Apple Macintosh I'll _assume_ you've got a Mac. As this isn't a PCompatible you can't be running PC-Pine. Therefore you must be using a terminal emulator program (probablt NCSA Telnet?) to connect and login to a UNIX computer, and using Pine there. Am I right so far? If so... You *probably* received the image as an "attachment" to a message you have received. Pine will say this if you did. In which case read the message (to get it on the screen). Now use Pine's "V" command to see a list of the attachments to the message. Now select the image attachment using the Arrow Keys and use the "S" command to save its contents to a file on disk. NB. This is your *UNIX* disk space; not the hard disk attached to your Mac. This is important for later. Pine will ask you for a filename to store the attachment under. It will almost certainly suggest a name, which you can use if it doesn't clash with one you already have. OK... you've now got the image stored on your UNIX disk space. However the JPEGview is a program on the Macintosh. It can only show you images files stored on the Mac's own hard disk; the Mac doesn't know anything about UNIS disk space, and so you can't yet use JPEGview to look at the file (the Mac/JPEGview can't see it). So your next step is to transfer a copy of the file from the UNIX disk space down to your Mac's hard disk. How you do this depends on the software you have on your Mac, and the software available on your UNIX system. Mostly people use "ftp" to transfer files. To use this you will need an ftp "client" program on your Mac -- eg, "Fetch" or "Anarchie" -- and an ftp "server" system set up (by your Systems Administrators) on your UNIX system. You will need to use Fetch/Anarchie to connect to your UNIXC computer and pull across a copy of the image file. *Make sure you transfer this as a "binary" file.* (If you transfer it as a "text" file it will be garbled and unusable.) If you can't use ftp then there may be some other file transfer program you have to use -- eg, Kermit or XModem. If you don't know how to operate any of these you should try reading their documentation in the first instance. Failing that ask for help locally at your Help Desk. If all else fails try a Macintosh newsgroup such as comp.sys.mac.comm. Once a copy of the file has been transferred down onto your Mac's hard disk you can now use JPEGview to open it and look at it. I hope it's worth it! ;-) -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, phillip liggins wrote: > Orjan > Can you tell me how to view images on pine? Please > pass on step by step instructions simple enough for a 6yr old to follow if > you can. > I have a program called JPEG view on my hard drive, but I don't know how > to get the images out of pine and on to my hard drive. Help!?!* > Thanks > > Phil> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:04:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA31758 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA11099 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:01:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA11095 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:00:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0VeW-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 08:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: streiner@co.iup.edu (Justin M. Streiner) Subject: pine 3.95 and qmail Message-ID: Date: 27 Feb 97 11:05:02 EST I'm presently in the process of replacing this system's MTA with qmail. Qmail's built and installed - seems to be working properly. However pine will not peacefully coexist with qmail. Other MUAs or front-ends on this system work fine, however pine will exit with the following error when attempting to send mail: sendsig: can't grow stack, pid xxxxx, proc pine Illegal instruction This does _not_ affect incoming mail, which is working properly. Also, Pine worked flawlessly when I was running sendmail thru v8.8.5 System info: OS: Ultrix v4.4 (MIPS) Pine version: 3.95 (unpatched) qmail version: 0.96 mailbox format: mbox I didn't ramp up to maildir (qmail's preferred mailbox format) because Pine doesn't yet support it. Pine's config has been modified to support mbox by adding the following line to pine.conf.fixed: inbox-path=Mailbox Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance jms -- -- justin m streiner -------------------------------------------------------- Systems Administrator WINDOWS '95 BUG REPORT FORM IUP Math / Computer Science Please describe the bug in detail in email: streiner@co.iup.edu the space below. Write legibly. web: http://www.co.iup.edu/~streiner ____ [____] "...for when your packets absolutely, positively have to NOT get there on time..." -- JMS commenting on net traffic thru BA's Pittsburgh SMDS cloud From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:24:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA26558 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA00617 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:21:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA00613 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:21:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0Vvf-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 09:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: streiner@co.iup.edu (Justin M. Streiner) Subject: Re: PLEASE HELP US VIEW IT NOW!!!! Message-ID: Date: 28 Feb 97 09:59:56 EST References: <5enk5b$ce3@due.unit.no> In article , phillip liggins wrote: >Orjan > Can you tell me how to view images on pine? Please >pass on step by step instructions simple enough for a 6yr old to follow if >you can. >I have a program called JPEG view on my hard drive, but I don't know how >to get the images out of pine and on to my hard drive. Help!?!* How you extract the images depends on how the image was sent to you (uuencoded or as a MIME attachment). How can you tell the difference? Easy. Read the email which contains the image you want to view. If there is something in the Attachments line of the message header, something 1) image/jpeg "image.jpg" (234K) Then the image is in a MIME attachment. To extract it, type V for View Attachments, select the attachment (it will be highlighted) and type S to save it to disk. This will save it to your account. Now you have to download it from your account to your computer. How you do this depends on how you're connecting to your account. Refer to your sysadmin for more help - that's a little too broad to cover here. If the image isn't in a MIME attachment, it's most likely uuencoded. You can tell for sure by looking at the message and somewhere near the beginning of the message you see a line like begin 640 filename.jpg It's uuencoded. The filename and permission numbers will probably be different. Type E to export the message to a file in your account. Just give it some garbage name as you'll be deleting it soon anyway. If the image is all in one part (not spread across several messages) you can just type 'uudecode garbage_file'. filename.jpg will then appear in your account. Download it the same way you would the image you pulled from a MIME attachment. jms -- -- justin m streiner -------------------------------------------------------- Systems Administrator WINDOWS '95 BUG REPORT FORM IUP Math / Computer Science Please describe the bug in detail in email: streiner@co.iup.edu the space below. Write legibly. web: http://www.co.iup.edu/~streiner ____ [____] "...for when your packets absolutely, positively have to NOT get there on time..." -- JMS commenting on net traffic thru BA's Pittsburgh SMDS cloud From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:25:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA32285 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA02163 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from casabyte.com (smtp.seattlesoft.com [38.226.62.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA02159; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:20:17 -0800 Received: from smtp by casabyte.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA15642; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:18:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:18:34 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Le X-Sender: andrew@smtp To: Tov cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ellis@nova.gmi.edu, 3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com, owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX In-Reply-To: <3316A35C.7CD2@choicemall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII UNIX was a variation on MULTIX, I think.. On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Tov wrote: > Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ??? trying to settle a bet, > please respond if you can help. thank you, Chris > --------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Le PHONE: (206) 254-9925 Casabyte LLC FAX: (206) 254-9926 Renton, WA EMAIL: andrew@casabyte.com WEB: http://www.casabyte.com --------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:03:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03828 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA04843 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:59:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from qs-alt.secapl.com (qs-alt.secapl.com [192.131.69.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA04839; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:59:24 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by qs-alt.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA111044; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:58:50 -0600 Received: from Fozzie.secapl.com by Cookie.secapl.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA49772; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 13:58:54 -0600 Received: from localhost by fozzie.secapl.com (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id OAA156838; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:59:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:59:09 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Iannotti To: Andrew Le Cc: Tov , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ellis@nova.gmi.edu, 3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com, owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Andrew Le wrote: > UNIX was a variation on MULTIX, I think.. I think it was MULTICS, an old time-sharing project from Bell, GE, and CMI(?). UNIX was going to be more of a single-user version, but grew. > On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Tov wrote: > > > Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ??? trying to settle a bet, > > please respond if you can help. thank you, Chris > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Le PHONE: (206) 254-9925 > Casabyte LLC FAX: (206) 254-9926 > Renton, WA EMAIL: andrew@casabyte.com > WEB: http://www.casabyte.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:10:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03380 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15741 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA15737 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:06:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0YWn-00038eC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 12:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Vielmetti Subject: Re: Removing attachments before posting Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:05:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: <3313CC7B.6DE7@telstra.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3313CC7B.6DE7@telstra.com.au> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Glenn Fullager wrote: > If I've attached a file/document to an email, and then before > sending the message realise I don't want it attached anymore, > how do I get rid of it? It's even worse (weirder) than that. If you receive a message with a multipart/alternative attachment, select "forward", delete the attachment, and then send the message, your message goes out as a multipart/alternative with the same boundaries as the original message. (This is true in 3.95). Hopefully the boundary marker is not in your message text. Everything *looks* ok, but the content-type really should be text/plain (or whatever) instead of multipart/alternative. Ed Edward Vielmetti First Virtual Holdings emv@fv.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:17:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03382 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:17:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05294 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:13:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05284 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:13:10 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA10639; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:55:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:55:48 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Mike Ellwood cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: (3.95 on UNIX (AIX) - want to stop asking to delete sent-mail-mon In-Reply-To: <5f4lqv$108u@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Look for the following lines in your .pinerc file, and change the second line to the '99.9' I have shown below. # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=99.9 Greg batchman@liberty.com On 27 Feb 1997, Mike Ellwood wrote: > > How can I stop Pine 3.95 from asking me everytime it starts > up whether I want to delete sent-mail-jan (or dec, etc)? > > > > If I want to fill up my disks that's my business, so how > do I tell Pine? > > > I can't find any setup options which seem relevant. > > Thanks, > -- > Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:30:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA04262 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05700 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:26:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA05696 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:25:57 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA29840; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:25:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:25:52 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who cares? Jim A. On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Andrew Le wrote: > UNIX was a variation on MULTIX, I think.. I think it was MULTICS, an old time-sharing project from Bell, GE, and CMI(?). UNIX was going to be more of a single-user version, but grew. > On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Tov wrote: > > > Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ??? trying to settle a bet, > > please respond if you can help. thank you, Chris > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > Andrew Le PHONE: (206) 254-9925 > Casabyte LLC FAX: (206) 254-9926 > Renton, WA EMAIL: andrew@casabyte.com > WEB: http://www.casabyte.com > --------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:51:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA04713 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA16898 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:47:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA16662 for pine-announce-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:37:40 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA16658 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:37:38 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (mikes@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA02781 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:37:37 -0800 Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:37:34 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Release Announcment List: ; Subject: Pine and PC-Pine 3.96 now available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 3.96. This release is considered a maintenance release and is intended to fix a small set of specific problems. These problems include all bugs fixed in the 3.95 patch released last month as well as a security hole in both the imapd and ipopd daemons distributed in the Pine 3.95 release. If you are not running the IMAP or POP daemons distributed with a previous release and you are not experiencing the problems addressed in the 3.95 patch, then upgrading to this latest release may not be necessary. The complete list of changes and improvements, as well as general information about Pine, can be found via the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu) and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs This release should be considered more stable than its predecessors, though you should be sure to verify for yourself that this is the case in your specific environment before placing it into production use. Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz PC-Pine in available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed As always, Thanks and Enjoy! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:50:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA07892 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:50:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA09376 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:46:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA09371 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 14:46:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0b0M-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 14:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Lumb Subject: Threading in Pine? [was Re: Mutt (was: Re: Will these be in 4.0?)] Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 09:49:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5e9tkp$hkg$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Is the ability to thread mail messages in Pine's future? This would be a very nice feature :-) Ian. -- Ian Lumb, Computer Systems Coordinator Office of the Dean, Faculty of Pure and Applied Science, York University 4700 Keele Street, North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-2100 x 30757; Fax: (416) 736-5950 [Personal URL] http://java.science.yorku.ca/~ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:52:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA08893 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA21205 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:49:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from melvax.sonoma.edu (melvax.sonoma.edu [130.157.12.42]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21195 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:49:13 -0800 Received: from SONOMA.EDU by SONOMA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #8366) id <01IFYDTHHN0W9S50T5@SONOMA.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:49:00 PST Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:48:59 -0800 (PST) From: madison@SONOMA.EDU Subject: Re: your mail In-reply-to: To: Joe DiBenedetto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the help with PINE. Yours. Craig On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > Hi madison, > > If you look at the bottom of your screen while composing, you will notice > many commands. See the "^G"? It will take you to a help screen, of which > the upper right-hand corner is devoted to "EDITING KEYS". If you look > around the remainder of the screen, you will see other sections such as > "CURSOR MOTION" and "SCREEN/COMPOSITION". Everything you need to accomplish > composing your message with a minimum of re-typing is there, even a spell- > checker! > > Have fun, > Joe:D > > On Wed, 26 Feb 1997 madison@SONOMA.EDU wrote: > > > Greetings, > > I have a problem with pine and hoped someone could help me out. When I > > write a letter and make a spelling errob, like right there, and then I > > need to correct it without retyping the whole of my document, pine has no > > mechanism to do this. I find this exceedingly lame. Must I write in WORD > > and then copy and paste it to the pine compose screen to send? Is there > > something I'm not understanding about the word processing capabilities of > > pine? > > Let me know. > > Yours, > > madison@sonoma.edu > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:44:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10399 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA22524 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:41:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA22515 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:41:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0cql-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 16:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tobbe `tjosan` Johansson Subject: reading news in pine Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 23:02:38 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! 1) Has anyone out there seen these lines before? [Checking "..." for recent messages <\> ] View next news group "..."? [Opening "..." <\> ] [Sorting "..." | xx% |] Is there a way of skipping the question part? I would really like pine to enter all news groups that contain any new messages without having to type 'Y'! 2) Another thing that annoys me is how to sort messages... In my mailfolders (including my inbox) I'd like the messages sorted by 'Date' BUT when reading news I'd like them sorted by subject (and thereby being able to delete lot's of messages that has no relevance for me)! Would it be possible to add a feature to the next version that allows users to select the sort order of single folders? Or possibly an standard sort order and than specifying the sort order of some folders? That's all for this time... Have a nice weekend folks! ~~~~~~~~~~ I was an atheist, until I found out I was God ~~~~~~~~~~ Tobbe Johansson Student @ Software Engineering @ http://www.rby.hk-r.se/~pt95tjo University of Karlskrona/Ronneby From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:01:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA30444 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:01:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA13443 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:57:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frim.gov.my (frim.gov.my [161.142.143.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA13439 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:57:54 -0800 Received: from rasol by frim.gov.my (8.6.5/1.37) id JAA08895; Sat, 1 Mar 1997 09:42:11 GMT Message-ID: <33186F98.4C86@frim.gov.my> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 10:04:08 -0800 From: "mohd. rasol abd. manaf" Reply-To: rasol@frim.gov.my Organization: FRIM X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attachment Files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Sir, I would like to know more detail on how to send file using atttavhment and how to read message from the attachment files. If possible please, submit me PINE HELP on opening attachment files and how to read it. Your kind attention is hioghly appreciated. RASOL A.M Forest Research Institute Malaysia Kepong Malaysia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:24:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA11123 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA13753 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:22:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA13749 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:22:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0eMB-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 18:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "P. V. Sriram" Subject: Saving the newsgroup list locally Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:25:12 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am using Pine 3.95 for Linux, and am using pine through ppp. Is there a way to save the entire list of newsgroups, so that pine doesn't download the entire list every time I need to subscribe to a new group or send a post to a newsgroup? Thank you, Ram From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:50:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA05155 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:50:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24623 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:47:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24619 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:47:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0emf-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 18:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Distribution of Imap4 servers Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:47:48 -0800 Message-ID: References: <330C74DC.2FA5@radlinx.rad.co.il> <33147624.7F1E@surrey.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33147624.7F1E@surrey.ac.uk> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Lloyd Wood wrote: > > David L Miller wrote: > > > I don't have any real numbers on the number of servers out there, but > > I do have a little information about one client, Pine. We have > > reports from about 200,000 users at 2000 sites who access their INBOX > > on an IMAP server. > > Complaining about what, exactly? Actually, I didn't include any complaints in those numbers... > is wondering if Pine plays as fast and loose with IMAP as it does > with the way it combines the news and email RFCs. Could you please elaborate? -- David L. Miller | Men and nations behave wisely once Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | they have exhausted all the other Box 354841, University of Washington | alternatives. -- Abba Eban 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:05:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11726 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:05:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14294 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:02:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14290 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:02:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0f09-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 18:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 18:16:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Dear Newbie, On 28 Feb 1997, ALI BAIG wrote: : begin 600 README~1.TXT : M1G)O;3H@"4%,22!"04E'#0I396YT.B )5V5D;F5S9&%Y+"!&96)R=6%R>2 R [snip] : 6(&]N(#(O,C8O.3<@,CHR,CHQ-B!032 Q : ` : end : Oh this is extremely useful, but not total surprising from MSN or AOL. L8R, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:13:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12208 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:13:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15075 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:11:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA15071; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:11:18 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id TAA21735; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:53:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:53:54 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Tov cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ellis@nova.gmi.edu, 3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com, owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UNIX In-Reply-To: <3316A35C.7CD2@choicemall.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Tov wrote: > Any one know what the hell UNIX stands for ??? trying to settle a bet, > please respond if you can help. thank you, Chris Universal Nerd Information eXchange? ;) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:53:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12607 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15560 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:51:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA15556 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:51:16 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id UAA22638; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:33:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:33:41 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Patrick Chan cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Default Bcc?? In-Reply-To: <01bc23fd$411aba60$5208c580@Patrick> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Feb 1997, Patrick Chan wrote: > Is it possible to make a default Bcc in pine, or in sendmail, such that, > when I send an email, I can keep a copy in my other account? > > Thanks for the help! :) > > Patrick Yes, actually, there is. Go to Setup, Config, then find the 'customized-hdrs' entry. Type A for Add, then type Bcc:
where
is your other account's address. It won't be blantantly obvious when you Compose a message unless you put the cursor in the header area and type Ctrl-R...then it'll show up. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:30:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07781 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27120 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:27:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27110 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:27:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0iE1-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 22:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cuentas Eduardo Subject: Re: Kill Files Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 01:28:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5e7bn2$hrf@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi! I have an account on a AIX system using AIX 3.2.5 on a IBM RS 6000-250. It seems there is procmail installed (would you recommend filter instead?) and I have already collected a couple of URLs to procmail information. Just one more question, what really would be the best is if I could autoforward only mail coming from one e-mail address, do you know if procmail can do this? Many thanks Paul! Eduardo Eduardo Cuentas cuenta01@kakadu.rz.uni-passau.de http://www.rz.uni-passau.de/~cuenta01/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:40:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13388 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:40:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA16967 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:37:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA16963 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:37:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0iM9-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 22:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:53:56 -0800 Subject: Re: Soccer Mad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 27 Feb 1997, Matthew Schinckel wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:42:08 +930 > From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> > Reply-To: Matthew Schinckel > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Soccer Mad > > On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Milton Escobar wrote: > > > At the moment I think that the Spanish League is the best. > > What do you think? > > I fail to see what this has to do with Pine... Very simple. Spain once had many pine forests but so many sports like bullfighting and soccer had many fatalities and so their forests of pine dwindled to make caskets. NO! I don't do Smileys! But smile anyway as es una bromita nada mas. hinotru From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:47:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13617 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:47:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27317 for pine-info-out; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:42:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27307 for ; Fri, 28 Feb 1997 22:42:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0w0iTI-00038cC; Fri, 28 Feb 97 22:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: ISO encoding and NA keyboards Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 17:18:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <33172A2B.7ECE@eciad.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33172A2B.7ECE@eciad.bc.ca> On Fri, 28 Feb 1997, Cal Sawyer wrote: > I've used Pine's optional encoding to help student read email > originating from European countries and it works great. Problem is - how > can they compose mail using the extended characters in the ISO-8859-x > sets on generic "US" keyboards? Is it possible without additional > terminal support? We run 3.91 on IRIX via telnet or dumbterm > connections. > > Something that I'm even more uncertain about is the possibility of > displaying Asian characters and writing in these languages from the same > environment described earlier. When working with non-US-ASCII character sets, there are usually two aspects: displaying and entering. For ISO-8859-x character sets, you seem to have the display problem in hand. As for _entering_ non-US-ASCII characters, I never did figure out how to do that with Pine's built-in composer. However, Pine allows you to specify another editor to use when composing. If you do that, then you enter (for example) accented characters by whatever method that editor uses, which will be different with every editor. Depending on the editor, you may not necessarily need any more terminal support. For instance, I have joe as my editor for Pine under a type of Un*x, and I can enter special characters without any special support (other than display). Displaying Asian characters is not exclusively a Pine problem. Whatever terminal arrangement you have has to be able to display them. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart