Subject: held hostage by....

From: "JIM R FLEMING" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 10:20:04 -0500

----- Original Message -----
From: "David R. Conrad" <[email-masked]>
To: "D. J. Bernstein" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>;
<[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: (ngtrans) Joint DNSEXT & NGTRANS summary

> Dan,
>
> At 12:14 AM 8/8/2001 +0000, D. J. Bernstein wrote:
> >The NAT sites I've seen are using it for precisely one reason: to
> >conserve precious IPv4 address space.
>
> Large organizations also use NAT so they aren't held hostage by their
> service provider.  Really.  If you don't believe me, ask any large
> organization that does not have "portable" address space.
>

Large organizations also use NAT so that they are not held hostage by
the ICANN/IANA multi-level-marketing (MLM) structure of the large
IPv4 Address Block owners and the Regional Registries.[1] By using NAT,
companies do not have to pay "Internet taxes" to inefficient organizations
who continue to grow in size to support their traveling road shows of
gad-flys, groupies, industry pundits and politicians. What should be
a completely automated system of obtaining (and returning) blocks of
IP addresses to pools maintained on reliable database servers, continues
to be a *subjective*, manual system, which requires that people "grease"
the right parts of the system in order to obtain a useable IPv4 address
block.
The large companies (some listed below) who already have plenty of IPv4
allocations, are immune from dealing with the MLM monster. They regularly
claim they just do not see what the problem is, yet, they are able to grow
in
size and win contracts because they have the IPv4 allocations and others
pay dearly in fees and administrative overhead to obtain meager resources.

[1] http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
000/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
001/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
002/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
003/8  General Electric Company  May 94
004/8  Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.  Dec 92
005/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 95
006/8  Army Information Systems Center  Feb 94
007/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
008/8  Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.  Dec 92
009/8  IBM     Aug 92
010/8  IANA - Private Use   Jun 95
011/8  DoD Intel Information Systems  May 93
012/8  AT&T Bell Laboratories   Jun 95
013/8  Xerox Corporation   Sep 91
014/8  IANA - Public Data Network  Jun 91
015/8  Hewlett-Packard Company   Jul 94
016/8  Digital Equipment Corporation  Nov 94
017/8  Apple Computer Inc.   Jul 92
018/8  MIT     Jan 94
019/8  Ford Motor Company   May 95
020/8  Computer Sciences Corporation  Oct 94
021/8  DDN-RVN     Jul 91
022/8  Defense Information Systems Agency May 93
023/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 95
024/8  ARIN - Cable Block   May 01
                (Formerly IANA - Jul 95)
025/8  Royal Signals and Radar Establishment Jan 95
026/8  Defense Information Systems Agency May 95
027/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
028/8  DSI-North    Jul 92
029/8  Defense Information Systems Agency Jul 91
030/8  Defense Information Systems Agency Jul 91
031/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 99
032/8  Norsk Informasjonsteknologi  Jun 94
033/8  DLA Systems Automation Center  Jan 91
034/8  Halliburton Company   Mar 93
035/8  MERIT Computer Network   Apr 94
036/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 00
                (Formerly Stanford University - Apr 93)
037/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
038/8  Performance Systems International Sep 94
039/8  IANA - Reserved    Apr 95
040/8  Eli Lily and Company   Jun 94
041/8  IANA - Reserved    May 95
042/8  IANA - Reserved    Jul 95
043/8  Japan Inet    Jan 91
044/8  Amateur Radio Digital Communications Jul 92
045/8  Interop Show Network   Jan 95
046/8  Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.  Dec 92
047/8  Bell-Northern Research   Jan 91
048/8  Prudential Securities Inc.  May 95
049/8  Joint Technical Command   May 94
  Returned to IANA   Mar 98
050/8  Joint Technical Command   May 94
  Returned to IANA   Mar 98
051/8  Deparment of Social Security of UK Aug 94
052/8  E.I. duPont de Nemours and Co., Inc. Dec 91
053/8  Cap Debis CCS    Oct 93
054/8  Merck and Co., Inc.   Mar 92
055/8  Boeing Computer Services  Apr 95
056/8  U.S. Postal Service   Jun 94
057/8  SITA     May 95
058/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
059/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
060/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
061/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   Apr 97
062/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   Apr 97
063/8  ARIN     Apr 97
064/8  ARIN     Jul 99
065/8           ARIN     Jul 00
066/8  ARIN     Jul 00
067/8           ARIN     May 01
068/8           ARIN     Jun 01
069-079/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
080/8  RIPE NCC    Apr 01
081/8           RIPE NCC    Apr 01
082-095/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
096-126/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
127/8  IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
128-191/8 Various Registries    May 93
192/8  Various Registries - MultiRegional May 93
193/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   May 93
194/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   May 93
195/8  RIPE NCC - Europe   May 93
196/8  Various Registries   May 93
197/8  IANA - Reserved    May 93
198/8  Various Registries    May 93
199/8  ARIN - North America    May 93
200/8  ARIN - Central and South America May 93
201/8  Reserved - Central and South America May 93
202/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   May 93
203/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   May 93
204/8  ARIN - North America    Mar 94
205/8  ARIN - North America    Mar 94
206/8  ARIN - North America    Apr 95
207/8  ARIN - North America    Nov 95
208/8  ARIN - North America    Apr 96
209/8  ARIN - North America   Jun 96
210/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   Jun 96
211/8  APNIC - Pacific Rim   Jun 96
212/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Oct 97
213/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Mar 99
214/8  US-DOD     Mar 98
215/8  US-DOD                                  Mar 98
216/8           ARIN - North America                    Apr 98
217/8           RIPE NCC - Europe                       Jun 00
218/8           APNIC - Pacific Rim   Dec 00
219-223/8       IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
224-239/8 IANA - Multicast   Sep 81
240-255/8 IANA - Reserved    Sep 81
---------------------------------

Fortunately, that all now changes, since Microsoft has added the
ability to use 2002 "IPv8 Addressing" in Windows 2000. Rather than
allocating the IPv8 Address space to the same insiders above, the
address space has been dispersed to thousands of regional and
non-regional registries, in order to make it fair and open and to
encourage automation and low-cost or no-cost allocations. People
that get angry about this are generally expressing their concerns that
THEY are no longer going to be able to hold people hostage over some
simple IP address allocations.

http://www.dot-arizona.com/IPv8/IPv4/

The "toy" IPv4 Internet is a sewer.
IPv8 is designed to be a swamp to cover the sewer.
IPv16 is the "high-ground"....

...here are some links...

Jim Fleming
http://www.unir.com
Mars 128n 128e
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http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
http://msdn.microsoft.com/downloads/sdks/platform/tpipv6/start.asp
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12213.html
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg12223.html