Date: Thu, 30 Mar 1995 19:40:19 -1000 From: andrew@tug.com (Andrew Beattie) Message-Id: Organization: /usr/lib/news/organisation Subject: Re: Buggy in Quebec (Canada) In article Yves_Laforest@IAF.UQUEBEC.CA () writes: >To do that, I'll need more information on buggy rules The most widely accepted rules are those of the Argyle Park Buggiers. I'll put the whole thing on the web, (I've missed the part that explains why some of the more convoluted rule-sets don't work) but here is the bit that you are interested in... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. For multi buggy races we propose not to outlaw obstruction as a general thing except for deliberate blatant obstruction, and base our judgement of what is deliberate obstruction on whether the aledged obstructor could reasonably have had some other credible reason for doing whatever it was anyway - e.g. had no choice, was just incompetent, tacked expecting a wind shift etc. 2 That we appoint a race judge before each meeting whose judgement is agreed to be impartial and non- partisan and that the judge be given the power to black flag competitors out for blatant obstruction, unsafe behaviour, "hunting", incompetence to the point where it is generally preventing the fair conduct of the race and team racing - any more offences? * team racing, which has already reared it's unacceptable head, is where a generally less able buggier fouls out another competitor (and usually himself) in order to advantage some associated competitor. 3 That for multi buggy events, starts should be so that each buggy has at lease 15m clear laterally to each adjacent buggy and that the first leg should be from a line set at the most windward part of the course directly to the most downwind mark without requirement to round other marks on the way. We have found that this effectively spreads the field by the first mark which is >From very long experience where most entanglements occur. Starting on the reach has the disadvantage of always having some advantaged/disadvantaged starting positions - downwind starts don't have this problem to anything like the same extent. 4 That unless the site is very large, seeding, classes or preliminary heats should be used to help reduce fields to less than 10 buggies per race. 5 That where races are short, say less than 1/2 hour, competitors shall drop their worst score when points are totalled. Say for a 5 race program count the best 4 for each competitor. This helps reduce the effect of occasional bad luck on eventual outcomes. We have found that, over enough races (say 5 or more) and especially if at least one race is a double point endurance event which runs either until one competitor has lapped every other or until a predetermined time limit of 1 1/2 hours, the most competent competitor will certainly prevail even over a buggier who plays obstructive games. In multi race events the winning strategy is absolutely to play clean, keep out of trouble, avoid troublemakers (even when this means hanging back until a really clear oppertunity for passing comes along) and to concentrate on turning in perfect laps. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >I wrote to Dan Rubesh from BUGGY PILOT INTERNATIONAL but >I did not have any news from him. BZZTT! wrong. You want coreykite@aol.com (not that Dan isn't a nice guy...) For the UK, contact Mell@buggy.demon.co.uk For France, bem@residents.frmug.fr.net Andrew -- New to rec.kites? START HERE! | To: www@kfs.org send an email message like this->| Subject: service | http://www.kfs.org/kites/welcome/index.html echo '/Frank Kenisky/f:j' >> $HOME/News/rec/kites/KILL # *PLONK* = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:20:43 -1000 From: kiter1don@aol.com (KITER1DON) Message-Id: <3m6r6r$4k3@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Subject: Re: Buggy in Quebec (Canada) There are several buggy riders in New England and the Northeast which would love to go to an organized buggy event. If the dates don't conflict with prior obligations I will gladly come up and try to bring others. Please contact me at KITES OF BOSTON 7 North Market Boston, MA 02109 617-742-1455 Don McCasland KITER1DON @ aol.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:53:09 -1000 From: @phy.ulaval.ca (Etudiants) Message-Id: <-1004951450100001@bose.phy.ulaval.ca> Organization: Departement de physique, Universite Laval Subject: Re: Buggy in Quebec (Canada) In article <3m6r6r$4k3@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, kiter1don@aol.com (KITER1DON) wrote: > There are several buggy riders in New England and the Northeast which > would love to go to an organized buggy event. If the dates don't conflict > with prior obligations I will gladly come up and try to bring others. > Please contact me at KITES OF BOSTON 7 North Market Boston, MA 02109 > 617-742-1455 Don McCasland KITER1DON @ aol.com Well... There isn't an official buggy event in Quebec probably because there ain't enough Quebec buggiers as of yet... But our biggest event of the year is the Verdun Worldwide kite Rendez-Vous (next to Montreal) on June 1 to 4 1995... There will be buggys at this event (including Peter Lynn himself, Fritz, etc.. ) Otherwise, there are small events here and there all over the province.. Kenny Kblackbu@phy.ulaval.ca Federation Quebecoise du Cerf-Volant = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =